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hey patreon homies! so here's my full uncut reaction to the new Louis Tomlinson album Faith In The Future. oh boy, where do I even start with this album... man. actually, let's not talk about the album that's what the video is for, let's talk about the fanbase for sec. I'd like to believe everyone here respects my opinions about music so I'm not really talking about any Patreon members but I've been seeing some tweets asking about this live stream, and the responses from Louis fan accounts (most don't follow me) have responded with stuff like "he should just keep it to himself", "better off not posting it", "we don't need it" Etc, etc... and you know, that just breaks my heart. I've been trying to become a more honest and factual reviewer/reactor over the past few months - it makes me feel more valuable than just a reactor that hypes up everything they hear.

But when I see tweets and responses like that, before I even POST the video, it makes me feel like I'm posting just to be thrown to the wolves.  That's not fun, I don't wanna be a part of that, that doesn't get me excited about posting. The only conclusion that I've been able to reach on my own is that because of the way Louis has instilled this "tomo way" of "never taking shit from people" mindset into his fanbase for so many years it's created a group of online fans that have bred this animosity towards ANY kind of criticism of his music. I love bonding with fanbases on the channel, it's one of the top things that get me hyped to post new videos but the way I've been treated by the L.T. fanbase, straight up makes me not wanna post. Like, I'm not about to work my ass off for a whole week of editing just to be harassed in the comments about my completely valid opinions. But at the same time... I kinda wanna post it in spite now lmao... shit

so honestly, idk. I wanna open it up to yall who have watched and seen the whole video uncut. should I post? should I not? idk pls advise

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z4c09Q28UkU83XKt8OyGeadvU9ZP5gJy/view?usp=share_link

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Emma Heikkilä

Hi Troy! The link says this video doesn't exist anymore. Is it possible for you to re-upload it? Thanks in advance 🥰

Faith

Bruhhh I wanna watch this 😭

anna maria

i can’t watch it cause too many people accessed it but just wanted to say that if you feel like you want to put this out, you should do it and if people will not agree with your opinions and will hate on you just because you were honest, it’s their problem, not yours, every person should be allowed to have their own opinion on something no matter what!

Charley

I personally always like your take on something even if I don’t agree. Some of my faves on 5SOS5 were ones you didn’t like and I think it’s interesting to hear why! At the end of the day, people asked for your reaction so I think you should give it to them, and if the comments get too heated you can always turn them off! That being said, I can’t watch this reaction bc the google drive link isn’t working anymore but we move 😂

Anonymous

hellur, so here are my thoughts. no matter what you do, if you arent saying that this is the best music you've ever heard, louis stans are gonna come at you. I think you know best about the video and I trust your music reviews greatly, but as someone who was in that fandom for a few years, you will kinda be attacked no matter what you do. I think that this also may incite commentary from larry shippers and that in itself is really hard to deal with because they tend to be relentless. However, I think that as everyone has said so far, this is your channel if people don't like what you're posting they don't have to watch. It's more of a reflection of them and that fanbase than on the work you've put into this channel as a whole. I don't know if this made sense, but, I digress. I think there are pros and cons, it's just up to you how you want to spend your energy. sending love!

Aubrey G

I haven't even watched the video yet, but I'm 100% here for authenticity. Not everyone is going to like everything, and that's okay. That's the beauty of music. And if stans can't accept that, they honestly just need to grow the fuck up.

ciara morris

as a hard core louis fan of since the beginning, i say post it. at the end of the day your opinion will upset someone. you're not always going to say what someone wants you to or agree that a certain song is amazing. it's your opinion if they don't like it they can get over it. i'd also like to add that not all louis fans are like that, they like to act like the 'tommo way' means to be rude and jerks to people but it means to not take shit from anyone and don't let them walk over you.

kj (grey)

I watched your livestream the day after I went to Louis 's release show at Irving Plaza. I hadn't heard the album before I went to the live show so it was really fascinating to come to a lot of the album 'fresh' with you. I very much believe that honest criticism of art MATTERS tremendously in the world. And the conversation about art (and for that matter, about criticism) matters to society. In some ways this situation is not totally unlike the political reality we have in the US where people are have often been like the truth is what my team (red or blue) said -- and I'm not even going to look critical at your evidence because you're biased and lying and conspiracies. People don't make an argument any more, they make an assertion and you have to agree or you're trashed by the group. Now, that's idealism not reality: and I also strongly believe you should decide how much internet crazy you want for yourself. People demanding a reaction - especially demanding a POSITIVE reaction? You owe them nothing . I mean, I'd love it it if you went even deeper on Louis's album or 5sos or whoever . I adore Walls and it was your reaction that helped me understand the craft of how it evokes a kind of emotional response and that's not what this project does at all. I love a lot of the sounds but I'm not as connected with all of these songs. Some of that's taste but a lot of it is technical and I really truly appreciate your subject matter expert position on sounds and production and where things work or not. I get so frustrated that NY Times Popcast / Rolling Stone / music critics don't even look at something like 5sos5. And I love the album, and good lord I love that band, but it makes me nuts because I don't know if critics are listening and it truly isn't interesting (though f that's the case I'd like to know more about what I'm missing) or if they've just done a sort of boy band write off and not listened at all. This comment became an essay but my point is this: your voice / angle is so valuable - you take seriously bands and artists and music that not everyone does and you apply a critical eye. Just cause a fuckton of girls like something doesn't make it good/bad/critically interesting as a failed/successful project. I think you do something that's pretty unique in assessing what the artist's project was and whether they succeeded on *their own terms* - while also being honest about what's your own taste ( and you're fun to watch!).

kj (grey)

Re constructive criticism or framing criticism in the positive, there have been recent papers showing that it doesn't help - most people will only hear the negative and fandom, particularly Larry/ Louie /Harrie, can't separate finding something less than perfect as the same as devaluing everything Louis has ever said or done and suggesting he has no talent at all - which is very much NOT what you were saying - but I think there are a lot of binaries in fandoms - if you are a fan, then you love everything and the only other option is hating it. And no gray zones at all.

Betty0012

can you repost this or somehow change the view limit on it so that we can watch it? I joined the patreon for this reaction and I can't access it rn

hthaze

Hey Betty I’m so sorry about the view limit, right now there isn’t a way I can find on Google to change it I think the only solution is to wait it out. Sorry homie, I wish it wasn’t like this

Anonymous

honestly, as long as you say specify why you don’t like it, nobody should be mad

Majeda A

louis stans are nuts i know from personal experience lol 😬

Anonymous

From my personal experience, I am very grateful to the louies, since I have come to know very nice and friendly people there; However, I know that there are parts that are not like that, which unfortunately happens in all fandoms. I was not aware of what had happened in the past, I came to your channel thanks to the video reaction of Walls (when it was not yet edited) and the truth is that I really liked the comments you made and I started to see more videos on the channel from there . On this occasion, I do not agree with many of your opinions but that does not mean that neither yours nor mine are incorrect, they are simply tastes and I perfectly understand how you liked some more than others. Just as you liked some songs like bigger than me or thats the way love goes (which are the ones that gave me more vibes to Walls) I understand that others preferred some more rock vibes and that their favorites are silver tongues or face the music, we all have our preferences and not everyone can like everything. Personally, I feel that this album is much more to the sound that Louis wants to achieve compared to Walls, and although it has things that can be improved, I really like the direction it is taking. It is really up to you if you want to publish it or not, I feel that many people should stop taking the opinions of others so personally, that in the end we are all pixels on the internet and that you like something different from the other does not affect in anything in the life of any of us, everyone should just enjoy the music and stop getting into so much pointless fighting. By the way I don't know if you plan to react to Ashe's new album "RAE" that came out a few weeks ago, the video reacting to "Ashlyn" is my favorite of the whole channel, I hope you can read this and good luck in everything &lt;3

Kristen

hi! so i read your description, and i watched the video in full, and as someone who has been a fan of your videos for years, and also a big fan of louis’ since the 1D days, i’d be happy to give my opinion should you want to read it 🙂 i want to start by saying i’m really tired of people being mean to one another on the internet and just bc someone is passionate about something doesn’t give them the right to be an ass to others, so im sorry for all the hate you got when you simply stated your opinion on something. with that said, i think louis’ fans can come off overly protective of him and his music because he is a comfort person for a lot of people and was still always known to the general public as “the least talented” one (which i personally feel is unfair to say, but it is what it is), and it can feel like people who don’t have the background knowledge that some of his more longtime fans do, don’t appreciate the growth he’s had and all of the work he’s put in to get where he is today. his solo career has been very different than the other guys and i do think it’s taken him much longer to break out of the One Direction bubble and form his identity outside of that so it’s naturally going to take more time for people, including himself, to embrace that sound from him. he has gone on record many many times now saying how insanely proud he is of this album and so a lot of fans will defend every second of it. so i hope that somehow provides insight from a massive fan’s perspective. ultimately, everyone has the right to their own opinions, obvi! and while we’re all allowed to agree and disagree, i think it comes down to respect and appreciation. you (the general you, not you specifically) don’t have to like something in order to respect and appreciate it, and while this album wasn’t what you (you specifically now lol) were looking for, i do think in general it’s a big leap in his career, confidence, and journey as an artist and should be treated as such.

Kristen

about your video specifically: you do have a lot of criticism throughout, some i agree with but most that i don’t (no hate here), but this video in general does seem to have a lot more than usual, which i recognize you said in your caption that you’ve been trying ‘honesty over hype’ more in your videos and i think that’s great, but it’s a risky move (in general bc the internet is mean, but especially with an artist with such an intense fanbase). if i were in your shoes i’d just be very selective on how you edit this one because i know you’ve gotten hate in the past from this specific fanbase and my emotional content™️ heart couldn’t take that lol. and by that i mean definitely keep your constructive criticisms in, but also maybe acknowledge this is going to be happening more across the board and it’s not just a louis thing 🤷‍♀️ and obvi keep in the parts where you enjoyed it. idk, im not a youtuber i work in marketing so what do i know, lmao. but that’s what i would do. at the end of the day i’m just happy you at least gave it one full listen and that added to his streams for release week, lol. god speed, troy!