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Nachelie

Nah the boss is always talking about his girlfriend in a weird way and bring up his personal business to random people. That's why his senior hates him because they keep talking about him. Of course he can't talk that way with the residents because they are crazy and unpredictable. Adorkable really didn't understand his situation.

Nachelie

You keep saying he should move out but where can he go? He said he is trying to manage for at least six months and isn't trying to get on their bad side.

Araceli

I don’t think he can live with his girlfriends cause in episode 3 it showed that she has a roommate.

Jessica

Sorry in advance for my rant, but just want Adorkable to know someone agrees with her rant (well like 90% of it lol). This MC is DUMB. This kid literally saw a [crazy] man with a KNIFE staring at him in the hallway. He knows the lady gives rotten eggs and still accepts food/drinks. I can find excuses for other behaviors, but these two are way too extreme that it makes no sense to me. Hes been there 4 days and 3 people are missing already, hes spoken to 2 police officers now, and saw the twins throw away a dead cat, how is he expecting to survive months there?? No point saving money for months if you're going to die in a week at this rate. Also agree with her on parts of the job aspect. Theres a limit to what treatment you should allow sure, but with any job, you have to put on a fake persona. Customer service is like biggest example of this. You cant show up to work all gloomy, rolling your eyes, with annoyance on your face thats extremely unprofessional. Thats what this MC does. The only part I disagree with her is that the CEO is an asshole in my eyes. It's not the same situation, but their relationship is a perfect example of why jobs ban dating a supervisor/subordinate. The power dynamic is messed up when you leverage your professional standing in personal affairs.

Irieezy.

I think they were eating yukhoe which is Korean steak tartare, I've never had it but they eat it a lot in these kdramas. Now our MC got trauma because of that vile shit the dentist tried to feed him 💀

Yaboyrocklee
>>113363656

Just to answer, anywhere else including go back home or attempt to live with girl friend. I didnt see him try.

Yaboyrocklee
>>113364826

Yup. Especially the power dynamic. I think you gotta smile with customers but ironically if you’re not a cheery person boss can’t expect you to smile the whole time around co workers or boss ha. I dealt with it as well as a manager. Technically I still do lol.

Jessica
>>113364826

Thats a good point about customer vs boss. I'd probably edit what Im saying to just not show your annoyance towards your boss unlesss waranted (such as when he was talking about his girl). I feel neutral is a good way to go with coworkers/boss. I think of it like when your on break, your just there casually eating your lunch and taking a break, not looking like you want the world to crumble but not forcing a smile either. Just neutral.

Yaboyrocklee
>>113364826

We got a different cultures and objectives. When I’m an employee for in a group setting is an independent contractor. I avoid smiling at people. Because I actively do not want to be approached and trapped into conversations. When you are approachable here people take up 20 minutes of your work time telling you a story now you have to stay after work longer to finish . When I’m in sales when people take up my time I miss out on commission business. So I’m generally only approachable to other “go-getters” these are people who are probably functioning at the top 5-10% so I took an operate at that level. And the people that chitchat and waste time I avoid

Yaboyrocklee
>>113364826

You can occasionally see me doing it in the intro when the other 2 tell a story and I look at the timer I’ll check out and stop contributing so they stop because no matter what happens adorkable has to leave at 5:30 PM and that’s the difference between one extra video or not ha ha. It’s kind of a tangent and not really relevant anymore but just sharing experiences

Nachelie
>>113363656

1. She has a roommate, 2. He can't just go back when he has a job and isn't trying to cause problems with the residents who are dangerous, 3. His girlfriend isn't even that helpful to his situation.

Nachelie
>>113364826

Still doesn't it fair to talk about his personal business in front of random people and talk about his girlfriend "being in heat". The boss being casual with him at work makes it harder to deal with. He clearly doesn't want that attention.

Yaboyrocklee
>>113363656

Yup. We agree on 1-3. You have stated facts. I respect your thoughts and thanks for asking

Danny
>>113364826

Its a bad situation overall. I use to work with a friend and sometimes I can feel our friendship strain because we can get argumentative and disagree on certain work related things. But outside of it we were great buddies. But as the years go on, we realize it wasnt going to work cuz our different opinions clash too often and its begun to affect our friendship too. But yeah like the OG post said, this is why work relationships are discouraged lol. most work have ups and downs and when the downs hit....shit can get ugly

Mochi

I do want to point out that subtitles on this version are hilariously flawed in a lot of parts that is kind of ruining some of the context of things. For example, the office scenes. His CEO didn't just say "she's really heated up", he said "she looked like she was in heat and raring to go"(like a cat in heat) basically implying that she looks like she wants to fuck him. Dude literally has something to say about her in every interaction, and it makes MC uncomfortable. Then dude pulls seniority on him and tries to be all "this is business" but consistently breaks that boundary on his side by repeatedly talking about his personal business. Another example, CEO telling all his business at company dinners and talking about his passion project like some hobby and telling him to give up on his dreams...it wasn't just some friendly banter, he really was telling him to give up cause he'll never be successful and to just focus on living. Then he talks about his taste in writing and how dark and twisted he is mentally....personally, that let me know that's not my friend, that's my bully. Also the way he's constantly lording it over him that he got him this job....ugh he just rubs me the wrong way ever since the first episode lol legit everyone in the show is trash(Except lady cop) 🗑 but that's why I love it. MC does make dumb decisions but please cut him some slack as he's from the country side and legit is very naive and trusting. He's a mama's boy, and fool for his gf. Idk maybe I'm a simp, but it just doesn't sit right with me to say he's too sensitive, he hasn't said a word except for when asked about it, and when he does finally say how he feels, he gets shut down or told he's being to sensitive by EVERYONE. That's rage inducing. It's a byproduct of toxic masculinity in the work place and it's why his so called college friend, gets away with talking about his gf like some cat in heat in front of the whole office and no one bats and eye. If she were in the room, hands down he wouldn't have said that shit. Everyone in this show is toxic 😪 except the cop lol cop is copping and doing her best IMHO lol lack of resources.

Mochi
>>113363656

it'll be explained in further episodes why he can't go back home. but cut him some slack pls. I beg you lol

Mochi

Anyway long story short, I understand yall point but....just cut my guy some slack. Like he's a baby bird just left the nest 🪹 he literally has no skills lol 😂 I promise if you watch it like satire, dark comedy, social commentary, it makes a lot more sense and it's less stressful.

Mochi

Also~ Jongwoo hasn't taken anything out on anyone so that's where I'm gonna say Adorkable is wrong here. He held all of it in. He scowls and holds it in. He suffers in silence. I really don't understand why she thinks he's blowing up at work, all that shit is internalized stress...like...him and his gf have the exact same situation and idk why yall feel bad for her and not for him and she went so far as to project on him and tell him to stick up for himself....whew .....imma just let the show reveal lol

Nachelie
>>113369108

Facts, I agree with you as you can't sympathy with one person and not the other when they both suffer

Irieezy.

Nah I'm usually with adorkable's takes but she went OD on the MC. Like she disregarded what the boss was saying to him the whole episode. Your girlfriend looks "really heated up" like first of all why are you talking about my gf in that way? I thought you were professional? Then when the MC told him to knock it off he asks all of his colleagues if HE'S being sensitive? Why are we asking other people if I have a problem with it? You claim you're so professional but that's HR basics. Especially in the workplace? No dude the CEO is in the wrong. Like the gaslighting is insane. Then when the MC gives him an answer he holds his position over his head. Then he wanna bring up his living situation in front of the team. 1. WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN TELL MY BUSINESS INFRONT OF EVERYONE IN THE FIRST PLACE. Let's start there. You claim to be my boss but divulging my personal information is not fucking cool, I tell you once again NOT to do it then you end up calling me sensitive again. Nah adorkable missed the signs cause this boss is straight up trash. If I was the MC I would definitely quit but obviously y'all can tell he's in a bind. He can't move in with his girlfriend, he can't move in back home, he has to stay there until he saves up more money. The only thing I agree with adorkable on is that he is way too lax with the red flags at home, that's the only thing that irritates me about him. Like a whole knife bro? Gmfu lol. We can agree to disagree but the way she was going ham on the MC was unnecessary lol.

Nachelie
>>113363656

Appreciate it! I'm just saying Adorkable is being too harsh on someone who is suffering in silence and not causing problems. He is trying when the people around him are toxic and doesn't have enough money to leave.

Jessica
>>113364826

@Nachelie I never said it was okay to talk about his business. Thats why I said the CEO is an asshole and him showing his annoyance to his boss when he talked about his girl as an acceptable reason to be annoyed. All I said was his attitude at work when hes just working in general I didnt agree with. I even mentioned how its a messed up power dyanmic cuz his boss keeps bringing his title into their personal convos.

Jessica
>>113363656

He could go to a bathhouse. Those are pretty cheap for a few nights stay until he figures out a new living situation. Him saving that money to eventually move out is pointless when hes dead. I'm watching at same pace as them so as of now there hasnt been any attempt to find a better alternative (though I believe you when you say there are reasons why, we just havent seen them yet, so opinions are based on what we know now).

Ren (edited)

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2023-07-20 23:46:09 I feel like adorkable really missed the undertone of the relationship between the boss and MC. They're not friends, The CEO has been gaslighting the MC since the first episode. --Also some important things I feel like you guys missed from the last couple episodes 1. He can't afford to move cause the boss is paying him peanuts 2. He can't move in w/ his girlfriend- she has a roommate 3. Anytime the MC tries to be professional the CEO tells him to be more friendly and when he does act friendly the boss reminds him of their position. (it's a lose-lose) It's clear the guys has anger issues but imagine having to deal w/ 2 assholes at work all day just to come home to a house full of crazy people. and now his girlfriend is telling him to grow some balls and talk back to his boss.
2023-07-20 21:44:59 I feel like adorkable really missed the undertone of the relationship between the boss and MC. They're not friends, The CEO has been gaslighting the MC since the first episode. --Also some important things I feel like you guys missed from the last couple episodes 1. He can't afford to move cause the boss is paying him peanuts 2. He can't move in w/ his girlfriend- she has a roommate 3. Anytime the MC tries to be professional, the CEO tells him to act more casual around him but when he does act like it, the boss reminds him of their position. (it's a lose-lose situation) It's clear the guys has anger issues but imagine having to deal w/ 2 assholes at work all day just to come home to a house full of crazy people. and now his girlfriend is telling him to grow some balls and talk back to his boss.

I feel like adorkable really missed the undertone of the relationship between the boss and MC. They're not friends, The CEO has been gaslighting the MC since the first episode. --Also some important things I feel like you guys missed from the last couple episodes 1. He can't afford to move cause the boss is paying him peanuts 2. He can't move in w/ his girlfriend- she has a roommate 3. Anytime the MC tries to be professional, the CEO tells him to act more casual around him but when he does act like it, the boss reminds him of their position. (it's a lose-lose situation) It's clear the guys has anger issues but imagine having to deal w/ 2 assholes at work all day just to come home to a house full of crazy people. and now his girlfriend is telling him to grow some balls and talk back to his boss.

Nachelie
>>113363656

Yes very good point about why I think he should have tried to leave when the first red flag happened. I'm mostly arguing about the boss and girlfriend being in the wrong in his life.

LightMyPath Star

I love Adorkable that rant was everything! The MC keep making stupid decisions and even if his CEO is a dick guess what that’s the world we live in you will not get along with everybody but you are getting paid and maybe u can move or sleep in a sauna I mean I’m with her if he gets kill I’m like why u stay bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣damn this is giving me flashbacks of extracurricular and Bae the stress geez. Great reaction though 🙏👍

Jerome

1:09:42 Adorkable went off 🤯😤😡🤬 and destroy the MC ☠️. FIRE! I loved it. Lee and Director sitting next to her like, "OMG, no one interrupt her this is pure gold." 🤣🤣 Please clip this rant and all hail Queen Adorkable.🙏

BoxHead

I agree with Adorkable, on the MC being A Idiot A lot of the Times. But ABSOLUTELY NOT With the Whole Boss Situation. Im Cool Will A lot Of Stuff, But the Boss is Confusing The Whole Time First He Starts to Say "Be COMFORTABLE And talk like We're Friends" then He Says "Yo Im Your BOSS" The Minute the MC Starts Talking LIKE A Friend. What the HELL IS UP WITH THE BOSS, LIKE Him talking Annoys the Hell Out Of ME. But Everything Else Adorkable Said I Can Sorta Get Behind. 🙏🏾👍🏾

Olive Abum
>>113368220

THIS!!! You put it so perfectly! Unacceptable behavior from the boss who constantly tells MC to 'smile' (like wtf) and call him sir, but then he talks about MC like he's a project and is telling all his dirty laundry. I get that there's a totem pole, but theres a difference between being letting some things slide for the sake of peace and then letting someone treat you like shit. Like how can you expect someone to just walk around with a smile plastered on their face😭😭😭 after ignoring and gaslighting them. With all his naivety and anger issues MC is trying his best lmao, BUT I will say that he needs to get the hell up outta that horror house

TinyTaemintNCTzen (edited)

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2023-07-22 02:49:43 Normally, I wouldn’t comment anything that could potentially influence anyone’s opinion and/or thoughts on a given movie/show, but I feel like this is an important exception. “Strangers From Hell” is, first and foremost, a psychological thriller, and thus not understanding the motives and thought-processes behind the characters’ choices/actions is bound to take away from the overall viewing-experience. Once you take a step back and really consider why a character makes a certain decision, it becomes a lot more complex and enjoyable and, more importantly, a lot less needlessly frustrating. Firstly, I think it’s important to understand that Jong Woo is an extremely lonely individual. Yes, he has a number of people around him — his colleagues, his girlfriend, the people at the residence — but, ultimately, none of that matters when said people can’t/won’t be there for him when he really needs them. He’s surrounded by individuals who project their issues/insecurities onto him, all the while dismissing his very real fears and concerns. He’s being gaslit left and right, constantly being told he’s being “too sensitive” and that he’s “overreacting”. His loneliness becomes especially apparent during his first conversation with Moon Jo, where he immediately and enthusiastically latches onto him — a stranger — as soon as he shows a hint of genuine interest in Jong Woo’s writing, suggesting it’s not a normal/frequent occurrence. Next, the constant gaslighting has the obvious consequence of Jong Woo suppressing his emotions to the point where his anger/frustration emerges explosively from time to time, leading to his “anger management issues”. The less obvious — but no less important — consequence is that he’s no longer able to trust his own judgement. We can all agree that seeing someone carrying a knife in the corridor of the building we live in would be more than alarming enough to prompt most of us to move out — financial situation be damned. However, Jong Woo has told his girlfriend about his worries regarding the people at the residence multiple times, and each time, she’s either dismissed them or outright gaslit him into believing that he’s being overdramatic. Add to this the many times his boss and colleagues have told him he’s being too sensitive — even when he’s actually in the right and more than justified — it’s no wonder he’s starting to question himself. If you just look at it on a surface level, him not leaving the residence seems like pure stupidity, but if you take everything he’s been gaslit into believing into account, it’s hard to fault him for hesitating. We also can’t forget that we have an omniscient point of view — we know everything that’s going on. Jong Woo, on the other hand, doesn’t. From our perspective, he’s living in a studio apartment surrounded by literal killers. From his perspective, he’s living in a studio apartment surrounded by potentially mentally unsound and slightly creepy individuals — he’s got no way of knowing the true degree of the danger he’s in. And, like I said in the previous paragraph, while most of us would have moved out just based off of what Jong Woo’s seen, even without knowing the full extent of it all, he’s been so completely gaslit by literally everyone around him that it makes sense that his judgement’s impaired to the point of not seeing the seemingly obvious. You can’t tell me it would shock you if, in response to him moving out, his girlfriend told him he was being irrational and unreasonable; it wouldn’t surprise me if Jong Woo’s already aware of this, and quite possibly, is even starting to believe it himself. Finally, I just wanted to briefly touch on his boss and his work place and its environment in general. His boss is a narcissistic asshole with a superiority complex a mile wide, and he’s most certainly not a good friend and/or boss to Jong Woo. He lords his title and position over Jong Woo, and seems to take pleasure in making him feel stupid and insignificant. He gives him money for his fare and acts patronizing like Jong Woo’s some kind of charity case, taking pleasure in being “superior” to him. His comments regarding Jong Woo’s girlfriend are both uncomfortable, unprofessional, and very much uncalled for, be that in a professional or casual setting, and Jong Woo had every right to speak up about it. Regarding Jong Woo’s professionalism at work, I must say that he’s actually keeping it together impressively well for someone who’s constantly being harassed and semi-bullied by his boss and colleagues who are most certainly not being very professional themselves. His internalized anger and the scenarios that run through his head aren’t there for no reason, he’s constantly being provoked and tested by the people he’s supposed to be able to rely on and trust. In conclusion, to fully appreciate the genius and complexity of the show, you must first be able to put yourself into the characters’ (especially Jong Woo’s) shoes and try to see where they’re coming from (you can’t forget that it’s a psychological thriller) and what the motives behind their thoughts and actions might be.
2023-07-22 00:27:00 Normally, I wouldn’t comment anything that could potentially influence anyone’s opinion and/or thoughts on a given movie/show, but I feel like this is an important exception. “Strangers From Hell” is, first and foremost, a psychological thriller, and thus not understanding the motives and thought-processes behind the characters’ choices/actions is bound to take away from the overall viewing-experience. Once you take a step back and really consider why a character makes a certain decision, it becomes a lot more complex and enjoyable and, more importantly, a lot less needlessly frustrating. Firstly, I think it’s important to understand that Jong Woo is an extremely lonely individual. Yes, he has a number of people around him — his colleagues, his girlfriend, the people at the residence — but, ultimately, none of that matters when said people can’t/won’t be there for him when he really needs them. He’s surrounded by individuals who project their issues/insecurities onto him, all the while dismissing his very real fears and concerns. He’s being gaslit left and right, constantly being told he’s being “too sensitive” and that he’s “overreacting”. His loneliness becomes especially apparent during his first conversation with Moon Jo, where he immediately and enthusiastically latches onto him — a stranger — as soon as he shows a hint of genuine interest in Jong Woo’s writing, suggesting it’s not a normal/frequent occurrence. Next, the constant gaslighting and lack of people to vent his concerns to has the obvious consequence of Jong Woo suppressing his emotions to the point where his anger/frustration emerges explosively from time to time, leading to his “anger management issues”. The less obvious — but no less important — consequence is that he’s no longer able to trust his own judgement. We can all agree that seeing someone carrying a knife in the hallway of the building we live in would be more than alarming enough to prompt most of us to move out — financial situation be damned. However, Jong Woo has told his girlfriend about his worries regarding the people at the residence multiple times, and each time, she’s either dismissed them or outright gaslit him into believing that he’s being overdramatic. Add to this the many times his boss and colleagues have told him he’s being too sensitive — even when he’s actually in the right and more than justified — it’s no wonder he’s starting to question himself. If you just look at it on a surface level, him not leaving the residence seems like pure stupidity, but if you take everything he’s been gaslit into believing into account, it’s hard to fault him for hesitating. We also can’t forget that we have an omniscient point of view — we know everything that’s going on. Jong Woo, on the other hand, doesn’t. From our perspective, he’s living in a studio apartment surrounded by literal killers. From his perspective, he’s living in a studio apartment surrounded by potentially mentally unsound and slightly creepy individuals — he’s got no way of knowing the true degree of the danger he’s in. And, like I said in the previous paragraph, while most of us would have moved out just based off of what Jong Woo’s seen, even without knowing the full extent of it all, he’s been so completely gaslit by literally everyone around him that it makes sense that his judgement’s impaired to the point of not seeing the seemingly obvious. You can’t tell me it would shock you if, in the event of him moving out, his girlfriend told him he was being irrational and unreasonable and that it was all in his head; it wouldn’t surprise me if Jong Woo’s already aware of this, and quite possibly, is even starting to believe it himself. Finally, I just wanted to briefly touch on his boss and his work place and its environment in general. His boss is a narcissistic asshole with a superiority complex a mile wide, and he’s most certainly not a good friend and/or boss to Jong Woo. He lords his title and position over Jong Woo, and seems to take pleasure in making him feel stupid and insignificant. He gives him money for his fare and acts patronizing like Jong Woo’s some kind of charity case, reveling in being “superior” to him. His boss’ small, empty, and ultimately pointless “acts of kindness” that Jong Woo never asked for in the first place are very inconsistent and uncomfortable because… well, he’s not actually a good person, he just wants people to think he is, and if he gets to show off his wealth and status and Jong Woo’s lack thereof — well, even better. His comments regarding Jong Woo’s girlfriend are both uncomfortable, unprofessional, and very much uncalled for, be that in a professional or casual setting, and Jong Woo had every right to speak up about it. Regarding Jong Woo’s professionalism at work, I must say that he’s actually keeping it together impressively well for someone who’s constantly being harassed and semi-bullied by his boss and colleagues, who are most certainly not being very professional themselves, on a daily basis. His internalized anger and the scenarios that run through his head aren’t there for no reason, he’s constantly being provoked and tested by the people he’s supposed to be able to rely on and trust. In conclusion, to fully appreciate the genius and complexity of the show, you must first be able to put yourself into the characters’ (especially Jong Woo’s) shoes and try to see where they’re coming from (you can’t forget that it’s a psychological thriller, not just horror) and what the motives behind their thoughts and actions might be. That way, the characters (particularly the ML) go from flat and maybe even annoyingly frustrating, to nuanced and layered — strikingly human in their psychological vulnerability.

Normally, I wouldn’t comment anything that could potentially influence anyone’s opinion and/or thoughts on a given movie/show, but I feel like this is an important exception. “Strangers From Hell” is, first and foremost, a psychological thriller, and thus not understanding the motives and thought-processes behind the characters’ choices/actions is bound to take away from the overall viewing-experience. Once you take a step back and really consider why a character makes a certain decision, it becomes a lot more complex and enjoyable and, more importantly, a lot less needlessly frustrating. Firstly, I think it’s important to understand that Jong Woo is an extremely lonely individual. Yes, he has a number of people around him — his colleagues, his girlfriend, the people at the residence — but, ultimately, none of that matters when said people can’t/won’t be there for him when he really needs them. He’s surrounded by individuals who project their issues/insecurities onto him, all the while dismissing his very real fears and concerns. He’s being gaslit left and right, constantly being told he’s being “too sensitive” and that he’s “overreacting”. His loneliness becomes especially apparent during his first conversation with Moon Jo, where he immediately and enthusiastically latches onto him — a stranger — as soon as he shows a hint of genuine interest in Jong Woo’s writing, suggesting it’s not a normal/frequent occurrence. Next, the constant gaslighting and lack of people to vent his concerns to has the obvious consequence of Jong Woo suppressing his emotions to the point where his anger/frustration emerges explosively from time to time, leading to his “anger management issues”. The less obvious — but no less important — consequence is that he’s no longer able to trust his own judgement. We can all agree that seeing someone carrying a knife in the hallway of the building we live in would be more than alarming enough to prompt most of us to move out — financial situation be damned. However, Jong Woo has told his girlfriend about his worries regarding the people at the residence multiple times, and each time, she’s either dismissed them or outright gaslit him into believing that he’s being overdramatic. Add to this the many times his boss and colleagues have told him he’s being too sensitive — even when he’s actually in the right and more than justified — it’s no wonder he’s starting to question himself. If you just look at it on a surface level, him not leaving the residence seems like pure stupidity, but if you take everything he’s been gaslit into believing into account, it’s hard to fault him for hesitating. We also can’t forget that we have an omniscient point of view — we know everything that’s going on. Jong Woo, on the other hand, doesn’t. From our perspective, he’s living in a studio apartment surrounded by literal killers. From his perspective, he’s living in a studio apartment surrounded by potentially mentally unsound and slightly creepy individuals — he’s got no way of knowing the true degree of the danger he’s in. And, like I said in the previous paragraph, while most of us would have moved out just based off of what Jong Woo’s seen, even without knowing the full extent of it all, he’s been so completely gaslit by literally everyone around him that it makes sense that his judgement’s impaired to the point of not seeing the seemingly obvious. You can’t tell me it would shock you if, in the event of him moving out, his girlfriend told him he was being irrational and unreasonable and that it was all in his head; it wouldn’t surprise me if Jong Woo’s already aware of this, and quite possibly, is even starting to believe it himself. Finally, I just wanted to briefly touch on his boss and his work place and its environment in general. His boss is a narcissistic asshole with a superiority complex a mile wide, and he’s most certainly not a good friend and/or boss to Jong Woo. He lords his title and position over Jong Woo, and seems to take pleasure in making him feel stupid and insignificant. He gives him money for his fare and acts patronizing like Jong Woo’s some kind of charity case, reveling in being “superior” to him. His boss’ small, empty, and ultimately pointless “acts of kindness” that Jong Woo never asked for in the first place are very inconsistent and uncomfortable because… well, he’s not actually a good person, he just wants people to think he is, and if he gets to show off his wealth and status and Jong Woo’s lack thereof — well, even better. His comments regarding Jong Woo’s girlfriend are both uncomfortable, unprofessional, and very much uncalled for, be that in a professional or casual setting, and Jong Woo had every right to speak up about it. Regarding Jong Woo’s professionalism at work, I must say that he’s actually keeping it together impressively well for someone who’s constantly being harassed and semi-bullied by his boss and colleagues, who are most certainly not being very professional themselves, on a daily basis. His internalized anger and the scenarios that run through his head aren’t there for no reason, he’s constantly being provoked and tested by the people he’s supposed to be able to rely on and trust. In conclusion, to fully appreciate the genius and complexity of the show, you must first be able to put yourself into the characters’ (especially Jong Woo’s) shoes and try to see where they’re coming from (you can’t forget that it’s a psychological thriller, not just horror) and what the motives behind their thoughts and actions might be. That way, the characters (particularly the ML) go from flat and maybe even annoyingly frustrating, to nuanced and layered — strikingly human in their psychological vulnerability.

GuyverZer0

after watching I disagreed on a few things but after reading comments along with rewatching I have come to agree with you lot more and part of that is, it's a psychological thriller and I shouldn't get hung up on perfectly understanding the thoughts of characters since that takes away from the experience. Part of what makes a good psychological thriller is how it helps reflect the viewers mind. Personally I think there is at least enough proof to say the show is told through a unreliable narrator which can throw questions at whether something is as bad as it seems.

94_h
>>113368220

To me, if the MC tries to be firm or act a different way, he might lose his temper for real. He already has all those violent thoughts as well... He's holding back from being firm cause he knows he will lose it.

94_h
>>113459191

Absolutely! The doctor indulged him with how he also "read works from the same author" and that made him so happy and giddy, you could tell 100% and that was so sad. People sometimes see things in too black and white and they have difficulties putting themselves in other's people shoes, and that takes away from the viewing experience.

94_h

Wow, Adorkable, you really gave so much hate to the MC at the end, lol. Everyone has gone through the things the MC is going through. He has ALL the right to be disrespectful with the Boss cause the Boss doesn’t respect him either.

94_h

Ugh, even if the MC lived in a mansion, why does his boss and “friend” needs to share his housing information with the other co-workers unprompted? That’s disrespectful as hell. That’s why he didn’t want his girlfriend to go upstairs at the office cause people will talk. I totally understand him. He just wants to do his job, get paid and leave. That boss dude is so iffy and annoying.

94_h

There is a very interesting parallel happening with the female police officer and the MC: they’re both newbies, young and “naive”, but people tend to walk over them because of those reasons. But the female police officer handles her situation and her limitations better than our MC… He needs to learn from her. Also, the MC’s girlfriend is going through some stuff as well, cause why is her boss so sensible and passive-aggressive? All because she was lost in thought? It seems like some girls hate her cause she has a boyfriend and the are having issues finding guys today with. Same thing with the MC and how he has a girlfriend… This is such an interesting show, I’m loving it.

94_h

I agree with Adorkable on how the MC hasn’t done his job right, has an attitude and all that, but he’s been working there for like 2 days, lol. An intern has to take all the work but not all the shit (referring to what Adorkable said at 45:15). That’s not healthy.

94_h

From 37:32 when Adorkable said “the meat”, the MC was already like this since Episode 1: crazy, has inner anger issues, violent thoughts and some murder intent, even before eating the meat the Dentist gave him. He refrains from acting on those violent impulses so I’m sure we’ll see him explode soon. He’s holding too many things. People also tend to freely comment on his appearance and treat him like a baby with all those comments on him having a girly face, being cute and adorable, looking weak and fragile; is so annoying… I’m sure any man would hate being told all of those things cause it makes him look as if he was a little kid.

Mochi
>>113459191

user do you have a discord? and if so, can we be friends? I thoroughly enjoyed your comment ~