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Lol...i dunno before this Arc, I never had the impression that Oden was THAT DUDE... Kin'emon spoke so highly of him, but all the rulers before were catching MASSIVE L's to the Invader, even seeing Oden get HUMBLED by White beard and Roger, I further was like..yeah he can't compete with an Emperor.. than we see, he accumulated strength during his travels...He's actually THAT DUDE.  This was an incredible story and probably my favorite back story ever.  Oden Sama is incredibly likeable...and the Journey isn't over here.  


Spoiler if you haven't seen the next 6 episodes yet.


Also, My Kaido remarks at the end is because I'm under the impression that Kaido would stoop to that level of using a Trick to beat Oden.  If it were to ever come to my attention that Kaido didn't approve of that old woman's Trick to pretend to be Momo maybe just maybe...i'd have a different opinion.

I know a lot of people will get triggered by my remarks lol..

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Ernest Mitchell

I’m sure you’ve already watched the following episodes. In one of the upcoming episodes Kaido tells Oden that he had the Old hag killed for pretending to be Momo. That wasn’t the way he wanted to win but he still has to honor it because a win is a win.

Yaboyrocklee

Yeah. That’s what I alluded to in the description without giving it away if someone didn’t see it already “ If it were to ever come to my attention that Kaido didn't approve of that old woman's Trick to pretend to be Momo maybe just maybe...i'd have a different opinion.”

Ernest Mitchell

Yeah I read that, which is what prompted me to bring it up. When I look back at episode even if Kaido wanted that Old Hag to distract Oden or not it was too late for him to stop. Both of them were in mid flight when one of their strongest attacks already going. Kaido was in mid swing when Oden turned around. Just heartbreaking to see such a dominant man get taken out like that.

SpartanManJDOGG

Kaido is that good but Oden might have been better. That's why saying Zoro was on Oden's level was crazy cause Zoro aint there yet.

Kwame James

You forget even though Oden lost to whitebeard and Roger he was on both crews for at least a year after that so he got stronger

Yaboyrocklee

I didn’t forget. It just didn’t mean anything to me in terms of him getting stronger till i saw him fight gain.

Kwame James

Just incase nobody else mentioned it but kaido had nothing to do with the momo trick not a 100% but I think in the Manga the witch was killed for that

Kwame James

Yeah a year with two of the top crews at the it was more of a implied thing and not sure if you notice that when he was with whitebeard and he formed the commanders Oden was the second commander which later on was ace spot which is funny because when he was asked to become second commander they said it was vacant for years and blackbeard didn't want it even though he was on the crew for years

Antonio Newman

Something to think about is oden hits kaido and he was hurt for sure but kaido hits oden and he got put to sleep. Ik he was off guard but still that is impressive.

Kwame James

My bad wasn't sure if the anime mentioned it but not much of a spoiler you can tell from kaido face he wasn't happy about the trick

Kwame James

It is but he wouldn't have been able to haki to protect himself because of lack of focus unlike luffy at the beginning of the arc luffy was focused and overwhelmed

Jack

Oden even got right back up after getting hit by roger

samoanshanks

I don’t care what anyone says, but Oden would’ve won. In the manga kaido was dropping to the ground after being wounded and still in dragon form, Oden was going to finish him off. But when the witch tricked Oden, that’s when Kaido got up behind turned into human form and slash Oden. Going off of the manga, Oden would’ve won 100%. Also, the manga interprets Kaido literally turning to human form only once Oden went to save Momo.. so it was a cheap shot. People get upset when I say this, but it’s how it’s interpreted in the manga.

Jack

Ya seeing his son in danger made him not worry about himself

Jack

Oh really I didn’t even read it. I was just about to though

Jack

Oden, kaido and momo remind of Thors, askeladd and thorfinn from Vinland saga

SolitaryLark

Yeah but I doubt Roger was actually trying to kill him where Kaido is

SolitaryLark

Yup Oden was THAT DUDE!

Phuizour

Can't wait for the next episode...

SpartanManJDOGG

It's in both the anime and manga so you didn't really have to mention it at all

Kwame James

I realize that now the thing is it's been a while since I saw this episode

Anonymous

Kaido didn't use Hybrid thing yet bro and just boom one shot

Adam Vialpando

I generally love the anime but stuff like this grinds my gears. It was drawn that way for a reason, to show that Oden really came close and it wasn't doomed to failure like some people thought.

Antonio Newman

the manga did kind of have a gap like realistically it seems the anime was right. All the manga showed was kaido down then the hag tricked oden then kaido hit him. Idk how fast kaido would have to untransform then hit oden in that time frame. It just seems like the anime made it seem more logical imo.

SolitaryLark

I mean still images and video aren’t gonna be a perfect match up. But I think it was accurate enough.

samoanshanks

Anime was right ? I’ll always take the authors direct work over anything else. And his direct work says what Ive already mentioned. And can that dude no spoil the thing about Kaido ? It doesn’t matter if he had that or not !!! Dumb excuse. Shoulda woulda coulda. Kaido maybe a lot stronger now, but if Oden was alive he’d be stronger too

Antonio Newman

yeah but oda has skipped stuff to be filled in by the anime. He has done that heavy this arc to the point where in some instances the anime seems more canon than the manga. From manga reader to manga reader you know that is true. I will not spoil anything but anybody who reads the manga would agree.

Dragon Prince

It's funny how the powers of two of Luffy's admirer's/friends (Bon Clay and Bartolemoeo) ended up helping Orochi lol