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Avatar Live Action Ep 4 (Patreon)

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Romari Richards

Loving this series so far don’t have any major complaints or any for that matter, it brings a piece of my childhood back fr

Soul Pirate Ruichi

Early ass uploads omggggg Enjoy ya’ll weekend 🖤

Khayta

Ok so I said this before but I really think the condensing it to 8 episodes is what’s hurting the show. The original book 1 of ATLA was less than 8 hours of content, so this is actually longer than the first book of ATLA, it’s the fact that they’re putting 2-3 eps in each episode, which starts to become 2-4 eps later.

Khayta

They did our boy Bumi dirty tbh

PJ Rivera

SECRET TUNNEL!!! If its one thing I can praise the show for is the singing nomads and the cabbages guy

Anonymous

Did you notice during Iroh's scene with the funeral they were playing Leaves from the vine?

AJ Williams

lmaooo a stalagmite up the ass at full force would be insane LOLOL

Anthony Chase

Leaves from the vine playing at Lu Ten’s service was well done

Ian Hover

I’m mad yall didn’t catch leaves from the vine. That scene hit me so hard as a kid and reliving it in 2024 hit me again😂

booger

the LED wall panels they use make backgrounds look so much better

Jamaal Ellison

Bumi was spitting so was Kyoshi I loved both those scenes.

Tau

I actually don't mind the changes they made to Bumi even though I liked the cartoon's version slightly more. This version seems a lot more realistic, especially when you consider his final message about making impossible choices. Food scraps for the orphanage or for the soldiers to keep fighting. It also makes sense that he's just fuckin tired. I would be too if I had to make decisions like that for a 100 yrs and knew the war would only continue. Also would've liked if they cut out the tunnel shit and made Bumi's earlier tests more meaningful. However, still a really good episode.

Jamaal Ellison

Imagine if you were a New Yorker and you're tasked with escorting Osama Bin Ladin, after losing people during 9/11. Uncle Iroh is the 🐐 no doubt but It doesn't seem like he really got his shit together until after his son died. And he didn't seem all that remorseful talking to the earthbender solder, granted the solder was fucking with him. But it wasn't without reason.

Isaac

Thinks I liked, Things I may have not liked:

Isaac
>>131138348

Liked because it's nessessary on optics: Katara and Sokka going to the tunnels together and not Katara and Aang. That episode was the start of the AangxKatara ship with the whole kiss thing they did or didn't do. In live action, Aang's actor and Katara's actress look so different in age that it'd just look weird. I'm not really keen on seeing any romance between Aand and Katara on a "kiss" level, especially with how young Aang's actor looks compared to Katara. Plus, I do like that love between siblings being just as meaningful in these types of "power of love" situations.

Isaac
>>131138348

Liked: Bumi's realistic bitterness toward Aang. I remember in the show that he was pretty warm to Aang's return even though he kept up those dumb challenges. It makes complete sense of the character change. One of his bestfriends is the Avatar and they disappeared for 100 years, leaving him to live through this bullshit and suddenly he comes back. Of course Bumi would be bitter about it and I really liked this change. Also it was kinda sad when he forced Aang to hold both rocks. Hell, I doubt he meant for that to happen because he looked at the danger he was in and just shrugged like he didn't care. How sad and upset Bumi has gotten over the years with his deteriorating mind to just let the possibility of being crushed to death casually happen like that. It was nice to see he got a bit of clarity with Aang's sweetheart ways though.

Isaac
>>131138348

Didn't like ... at first: Katara's Ice Bending. Really, at first glance, I hated the way it looked. In the show ice bending was either from the snow ( to the point where it looks like Earthbending) or transforming water into ice. The way it looked here, she outright air bended ice on Jet and it made me go "whaaaat???" BUT technically it can look like air bending by remember that she and any skilled waterbender can manipulate water vapors in the air. So basically she was pushing freezing water vapors and it looked like air bending. This is why if I were to pick any bending, I'd pick Water. It seriously has the ability of adapting. Ice Bending is technically earthbending with solid water and technically you can push and pull water vapors in the air to look like air bending, plus blood bending, plus healing. Water Bender for life.

Isaac
>>131138348

Liked: Iroh getting what he deserved. I love Iroh to death and he's a great person, but it doesn't negate what he did and being someone who doesn't know him as a person and only knows him for the murderer he used to be during the war, taking your chance to take your anger out on him and abuse him is expected. I'm not mad at the escort for doing what he did to Iroh. There's a lot of people inlore who hate Iroh for very serious reasons and putting that on display is good story telling. I do remember the cartoon had him abused too but I don't remember his escorts being portrayed as men in pain. I remember them being cartoony dickheads and just did it sneering like they were evil. Am I misremember that or no?

Isaac
>>131138348

Love Love Loved it: The flashback of Zuko and Iroh during the funeral and the music playing that one song Iroh sang when he had his personal little birthday party for his son during the episode "Tales of Ba Sing Se." That scene always made me cry and I damn near wanted to cry seeing Zuko and Iroh bond while that same melody was playing. And then them doing it again with the flashback of Zuko and Iroh at the boat. Ugh.

Tau
>>131136629

I also liked that he was being held accountable. I know we love Iroh and know that he's changed a lot, but a past like that is very hard to ignore. IMO, the argument that people change and should be forgiven can't really be applied here when he likely killed thousands (idk if this is true, but it was a 600 day siege).

Jamaal Ellison
>>131136629

All I know is that I remember in the cartoon during the episode about Zuko's mother. Iroh wrote a letter to the family bragging about the siege.

Anonymous

I'm loving Lupa's hair

cami ً

you got through (and enjoyed!) the two eps most people hated so I'm sure you'll keep enjoying the show until the end :)

Hasnain Khan

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Mario Huizar

Am I the only one who thinks this is a better adaptation than OP?

Anonymous

Roshi sai literally talked about Sokkas dad first you must of missed that talking to sheera that’s why sokka said “my dad would never do that”

WackySwacky

The show is obviously condensed, but seeing how they couldn't really do anything about that they've done as good a job as you could expect. I really don't get the hate.

Anonymous

Bumi probably what I dislike the most about this adaptation. Which sucks because the costume was great and the actor nailed the voice 🥲

Nicka Snax

Oh man, the music during Iroh's flashback about losing his son sounds like the melody for "leaves from the vine" that he sang in the cartoon 😭

Guns

“Brave soldier boy, Come marching home”

booger

RIP yall didnt notice LEAVES FROM THE VINES playing over Lu Ten's funeral scene

Sekraan
>>131136629

@Tau - holding people accountable and forgiving them aren't mutually exclusive concepts. Unless you're saying that you aren't entitled to forgiveness simply because you change for the better, in which case I agree.

Champion Bescos
>>131134399

His character would have worked if the finale that it was building up to landed. Taking a character that was once optimistic and quirky yet steadfast in the face of a hundred years of war and turning him into something unhinged, burdened, and betrayed was a bold move and it might have paid off if the questions they had Bumi asking (the whole reason they changed his personality, apparently) were actually answered. The “my friends will help me” response wasn’t just anticlimactic; it was antithetical to the tone and themes they were literally just trying to establish with Bumi’s entire character.

Eli Beli

I loved seeing earth king Joe Biden in live action

Davon Thomas

I do hate aang's motivation for going to the north pole

Champion Bescos

Gotta admit, this episode was a solid step up from the previous ones. A solid 7/10. Lots of people say 3 and 4 were the weakest, but I steadfastly give that to episodes 3 and 5, and 4 was just unfortunately sandwiched between them. Things I liked: Pretty much *everything* involving Iroh and Zuko. Not only are they two of the best actors on the show, they are also clearly given the most focus and care by the writing team, and it helps that they have the richest material to work with from the OG show. The music was also masterfully done, perfectly accompanying two scenes with them in particular, which others have noted (Leaves From the Vine = instant watery eyes), and yeah… Shit actually got me emotional. The earth kingdom soldier, Zuko’s decision, the two flashbacks, all of it moved me. My only small concern is that the writers and showrunners are so impatient to get to “the good stuff” with these characters, that these emotional moments and character developments between our favorite uncle/nephew duo are coming… a bit too early? Like, Zuko hasn’t been nearly angry, foul, harmful, or desperate enough for us to remotely dislike him. In fact, most reactors I’ve seen who didn’t watch the OG masterpiece are more on Zuko’s side than Aang and group at this point! That’s how toned down he is. Yet the beauty of Zuko is reflective of the beauty of Iroh; they were both born to the wrong family/country/time one could say, and due to their circumstances they nonetheless became monsters, hurting and endangering innocents, only to find the right path later in life. Zuko NEEDS to be seen as an antagonist on a considerable level by the audience first, so that his redemption really has that immense cathartic weight behind it. Like I said, just a tiny concern for the future, and I’m curious as to how they’re gonna handle the eventual further bonding/betrayal of Zuko. Things I was indifferent to: Pretty much everything else? Jet being wrapped up, Katara excelling so quickly, the Mechanist plot - it all felt underwhelming but not horrible either. The secret tunnel intro was certainly fun, and the badger moles looked cool. Theres a lot of small but weird lore changes, like with the badger moles sensing emotion instead of movement now? Hm. Curious how that’ll affect Toph in season two… Things I disliked: Katara continues to be a petulant wet sock despite getting the W on Jet. It’s a cross between the actress doing her best (not hate to her) but still coming up short, and the writing just being crap. The siblings’ bickering was a great example of how juvenile the dialogue often is in this show. The cinematography within the Volume also continues to be a hit/miss, the lighting often seeming entirely artificial and the framing not helping matters. Oh, and Aang. Aang continues to be the most annoying, juvenile, self righteous kid on the planet. He has his moments of being annoying in the OG show, absolutely, but they’re taking it to another level. Bumi is talking about war and loss and Aang is like, “How did you lose hope? I can believe you’re not the same… ten year old I remember.” 🤦🏽‍♂️ Worst of all was perhaps Bumi, though. Or, rather, the climax of his character. Taking a quirky, eclectic, yet wise old man who steadfastly ruled with keen intelligence and quirky optimism through a century long war, and turning him into… a jaded, betrayed, and burdened leader who rules through pragmatism and is laden with cynical was a big risk. A huge risk. And y’know what? I actually liked it. But then the entire purpose behind this change (to make him the type of character who would ask Aang “the hard questions” and teach him lessons other than ‘think outside the box like a mad genius’) falls flat when the shows writers realize they themselves don’t have an actual answer. This show has done SO EGREGIOUSLY LITTLE to hammer home the main theme of friendship between the gAang that the cartoon had, and they think by inserting moments like the ending can cover up for it, but it doesn’t. It just more tell instead of show once again. All Aang’s bullshit “my friends will help me” did was highlight the tonal dissonance this series suffers from. You can’t ask these hard, genuine questions with difficult answers and then softball it with nonsense like ‘friendship’. Katara and Sokka are not going to help Aang choose between feeding orphans or soldiers. They are not going to be able to help him choose which town to save and which to condemn. A leader leads alone and no amount of support can keep the inevitable hard choices from happening. The OG show didn’t ask these questions because it knew what it was; an optimistic tale of hope and friendship. Easy peasy. This series… doesn’t know what it is. It wants to honor the original series, but it keeps interjecting far more nuanced and grounded concepts and moments that thematically clash with the whole. Overall, still a fairly solid episode. Possibly the second best of the show.

Smash Bran'Discootch
>>131164019

What, because they made him an actual character that reacts to decades of war the way a normal human being would? Something you and a lot of people don't seem to understand is that some things simply do not translate well to live action. So when those things come up, it's ADAPTED to a manner that actually does play out well in live action. 1:1 Bumi would be incredibly cringey in live action.

Anonymous
>>131164019

It’s always the same excuse lol. Y’all can yell “it’s an adaptation” all you want. If I think a change was garbage, then that’s that. Sorry if you don’t get it 🤷‍♀️

Isaac
>>131138348

Ma'am this is what's called a "thread" on the internet.

CAM

Surprised no else thought two siblings going through a love tunnel (where Aang and Katara kissed in og ATLA) was weird but maybe I’m tripping 😵‍💫🤢

Huemon Nottabear

Paul Sun-Hyung Lee is killen it as Iroh, that mans a great comedian and actor. Love that dude

Fano

Sheera forgets Iroh is a war criminal.

Luhbabytay

I like how y’all acting like the earth bender are the bad ones and feeling sad for the fire bender lol huh especially sheera

My Big Little Brother

I'm really enjoying this series. It doesn't bother me as much as it does some people about the differences. Also, sprinkling some Lupa-san on it helps

Luhbabytay
>>131197337

It weird when you make it weird lol acting like they fuck or something

Anonymous

I like how they did bumi in this series, it shows how a 100 year war can do to the mind and it a more serious tone then the animated show

CAM
>>131197337

Lmao not on that level, but when making the show they said they wanted it to be like game of thrones 😬

Ginger Dwarf

Bumi's kinda cringe here.

Thulani Mason
>>131206475

Exactly, like I don't think would have been enjoying it if I couldn't also watch their reactions of it.

Jay M

Imagine having known of the Avatar for only about less than 10% of your entire life and caring more for him than what the war did to you for 90% of your life. It makes sense they did Bumi like this

Arc

Any anger torwards Iroh has always been justified, he was fighting Ba Sing Se non-stop for 2 years. And he was winning, if he hadn't lost his son he would've succeeded.

Thulani Mason
>>131197337

A friend of mine thought the exact same thing. To be honest it was a little weird.

uchuu kitsune

Tbh I don't like that they put katara and sokka in the love cave, that was a special thing for aang and katara but oh well, we need to include as much as possible because of budget.....

Kk

I want yall to know we 4 episodes in and aang hasn’t practiced water bending except once for a min and this is Book 1 Water

Anonymous

I totally forgot about Iroh seeing Roku’s dragon, Roshigan goin crazy 😂😂

Anonymous
>>131246348

I also feel like the change in Bumi’s lesson was kinda weird, in the cartoon he was teaching aang to think outside the box but I can understand the hard decisions lesson

FilmItLee

You know Bumi in this would make sense if he actually gave Aang trials that had purpose to them instead of being spiteful and making him choose also having his character be pissed at Aang for abandoning the people for 100 years with no context and yet keeping him prisoner while Aang says he needs to go to the northern water tribe MAKES ZERO SENSE but that’s Netflix writers for you…

Anonymous
>>131197337

I’m saying like why even bring the cave into season 1? They couldn’t think of any other conflict to give them 💀

Lumis_F4rgo

where is Toph in all this..., i mean isn't she a crucial character? btw they're doing a fantastic job with this adap.

Anonymous
>>131134399

Completely agree. i think if the episode had been about him testing aang with flashbacks of bumi's old self with aangf to contrast the current state of their relationship (and then obviosuly the side storyline of iroh and zuko) this episode would have been x10 better and the final message would have hit harder. The tunnel storyline i think overshadowed aang and bumi and so there was no build up and so bumis intentions/feelings didn't really feel clear enough until the very end

Skye Horton
>>131259917

she isn't in the show until season 2 so she might not be in the show until the end or next season

Merfhew
>>131259917

@Skye - True, but they added Azula and her friends. I think the show should have waited on that, but I can understand why they'd include popular characters like Azula sooner. I'm just surprised they didn't do the same for Toph (but I'm glad - introducing too many characters at once can be overwhelming).

Tau
>>131134399

Yeah, I feel like the tunnel stuff was overshadowing and could've just been saved for 2nd season when they return to Omashu. It also added extra space to cover when the adaptation was already on a time crunch. I did like Sokka's and Katara's moments in the tunnels, but it could've just been a secret passage way where it happened, instead of the 2 lovers tunnels.

Phroug

So far, my ratings for this shows episode are EP1 - 9/10 EP2 - 9/10 EP3 3/10 and EP4 6/10

Jarron Taylor
>>131259917

I mean adding Toph here would make 0 sense at all. Although I don’t like them adding her so soon, at least azula makes sense

eren1320

i dont know what it is but somthing about the show feels off like it looks great but somthing about the writing and how some actors in the show deliver the lines just rubs me the wrong way but maybe in season two it will get better who knows.

sotonye ogan
>>131160266

even though sai aint a father figure to sokka so that line was strange to say with little correlation lol,

EmoBurrito (edited)

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2024-03-03 09:24:29 The episode would have been better without the whole badger mole tunnel arc. But they included it because of the "secret tunnel" song, I mean I get it. The song is pretty iconic. But fleshing out Bumi and his "tests" would've been way better narratively.
2024-03-03 09:11:11 The episode would have been better without the whole badger mole tunnel arc. But they included it because of the "secret tunnel" song, I mean I get it. The song is pretty iconic. But fleshing out Bumi and his "tests" would've been way better narratively. Regardless I enjoyed it.

The episode would have been better without the whole badger mole tunnel arc. But they included it because of the "secret tunnel" song, I mean I get it. The song is pretty iconic. But fleshing out Bumi and his "tests" would've been way better narratively. Regardless I enjoyed it.

B-Rad
>>131304084

I feel like they did that because you can't have the two lovers storyline with aang and katara since they're literal kids, and since in the bumi episode all they did was get eaten by rock candy, but I do agree that it should have been more focused on the tests

Anonymous
>>131160266

Sai still brought up Sokka dad first and tried to compare them, Sokka was just letting him know that he is wrong which is justified

zachary orosco

fun thing about this episode is in the scene where they show Zuko and Iroh taking about iroh son i think i hear the song brave little soldier boy playing in the background. might be wrong. got me tearing up a little.

Persto
>>131372579

I think that's the biggest part why I saw so many people tear up too, is because yeah they were playing Leaves from the Vine during that scene and towards the end.

Persto
>>131229021

Honestly that's kinda one of the things that's bugged me a lot outside of specific acting and plot beats, the fact that we don't really even see Aang's little school crush on Katara. Like at this point in the cartoon it was already mildly established Aang likes Katara, but here I genuinely couldn't tell you what he thought of Sokka and Katara outside of being friends.

Travis James

Roshi: “nigga I’m 10” Me: *laughs hysterically* Sheera: “I think he’s 12” Bruh🤦‍♂️😭

Anonymous
>>131145271

Naw chill😭😭 but I would love for my hair to look like his tho

GK
>>131372579

As soon as my brain recognized the notes I immediately started ugly crying, that song is a thunderbolt to my heart, and it was nice getting some more backstory for Zuko and Iroh. Iroh is completely alone at his son's funeral. His wife (assuming he had one but sure he did have one) is already gone. His father (Azulon) is probably gone in this version but he was alive during the animated show and wasn't there for his son either. Ozai is garbage and thinks of glory, Azula wasn't even there and I'm assuming Ursa has already been banished.....people have already begun mocking Iroh for abandoning Ba Sing Se, he was truly alone, except for Zuko. And for Zuko, it shows a little more that he wasn't alone either, that while his dad and sister suck ass, and with his mom gone, his older cousin was close enough to him to give him something that probably meant a lot to him. Lao Tin was someone Zuko looked up to and admired, so this was a loss for him too.

Kuno-chan

Anyone else think it’s a little weird that Katara and Sokka, siblings, went into the Cave of *Two Lovers*? 💀

Bighusky

“Leaves from the vine plays”. Looks like I’m cutting onions tonight

Anonymous

I like how they changed oma and shu to two females while in the animated series it was a guy and a girl. It guess it gave it more of a forbidden love while also being from two different villages.

Kanae
>>131280379

Agreed, I feel like you can definitely tell when the original writers left the project.

Cayla Gibson
>>131410951

Bruh Sheera unironically always makes shit more funny with her obliviousness 😭

FreshxEli Tv

Iroh literally could of took the kingdom 😭😭 people don’t realize iroh fought against the strongest benders

Clutchalways

Literally Jaden smith lmao

Bria A.
>>131259917

It’s easy to do a cutaway scene to the Fire Nation to see the perspective of what the royal family is up to, but Toph’s whole thing is that she’s confined to her house until the Gaang gives her the courage to fight for her independence, so they really can’t add her in early in any meaningful way lol

muxakara!
>>131753174

dont quote me on this but i think iroh was tasked for omashu and had to shimmy his way out of it which lead to him having to siege ba sing se for 600 days. man was never one for the war. i think thats why people (firebenders) were always so ill towards him because after he lost his son he knew that that shit wasn't worth it fr.

Markus Bryant

So was Oma and Shu two women in this adaptation? I don't think I noticed when I watched the first time

Markus Bryant

I also don't know if yall peeped the instrumental for Leaves from the Vine playing over the two big emotional moments with Zuko and Iroh. Those two scenes are so powerful. That was probably the first time a show ever made me tear up twice in an episode