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House of the Dragon Ep 7 (Patreon)

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2022-10-04 01:22:31
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ok
>>92895954

Because reactors watch on a TV with the lights in the room on. Comparing that to watching in the dark

ok
>>92898137

You are watching a show about Targaryens whose *whole* thing is incest. That alone is not remotely enough to get people to choose sides lmao

ok

I know I'm MAD late but like, is it not possible to pause the show and change tv settings? Why did y'all just put up with not being able to see anything lmao

Cameron Eldridge

"oh he's someone else' hand" LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I can't stop laughing

CentipedeKid
>>92963624

If I call you a bitch and you pull out a knife only one of us is getting arrested.

CentipedeKid

Let it go? The bastards took his eye. Reynyra keeps getting away with wronging people because her father is blinded by the image of his first wife reflected in Reynyra. I don't see how people ignore that Reynyra and her offspring were in the wrong. Aemond was chosen by the dragon nothing prevented his cousins from trying the same.

Henoch

The more I rewatch this show, the more I side with Alicent and the Hightowers. Rhaenyra literally does whatever she wants and her father will always take her side no matter what. Alicent has practically 0 allies inside the castle and even her husband is taking the side of Rhaenyra's kids over her own. I'm going into season 2 rooting for the Hightowers!!!!

Nobody

Re-watching this, saw some of the comments going all in on the greens and would like to reiterate. Anybody... ANYBODY that sides with the greens in any capacity needs to check themselves and reflect on their lives lmao. This is your wake up call from a normal person, you have lost the plot. The greens are literally the enemy. They are LITERALLY credited as the main antagonists of the series and it has always been that way since the book. Save yourself before it's too late you fools!

Adrian Neal

Dawg them HBO niggas better not light a episode like this in season 2 this shit was giving me a headache 😭😭😭😭😭

Max Willett

What I have learned from this show is that everyone is a bad person

Arturo

I hate the "true born" stuff so much. So what if they're not Leanors, they're still Rhaenyra's and she's next in line by all rights 😤

Nendiatu Lumeh (edited)

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2024-06-24 11:11:36 After rewatching this season, I noticed that Alicent's daughter literally called the fact that he would loose an eye in order to become a dragon rider. She said that he would have to "close one eye" to become one.
2024-06-24 11:11:36 After rewatching this season, I noticed that Alicent's daughter literally called the fact that he would loose an eye in order to become a dragon rider. She said that he would have to "close one eye" to become one.
2024-06-24 01:21:36 After rewatching this season, I noticed that Alicent's daughter literally called the fact that he would loose an eye in order to become a dragon rider. She said that he would have to "close one eye" to become one.

After rewatching this season, I noticed that Alicent's daughter literally called the fact that he would loose an eye in order to become a dragon rider. She said that he would have to "close one eye" to become one.

DreAKAWolves (edited)

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2024-06-25 02:10:28 Rhaenyra lost my support after this...that's crazy...Can I root for ANYBODY in this show?? Damn politics suck Nvm I complained too soon lol
2024-06-25 02:10:28 Rhaenyra lost my support after this...that's crazy...Can I root for ANYBODY in this show?? Damn politics suck Nvm I complained too soon lol
2024-06-25 02:10:28 Rhaenyra lost my support after this...that's crazy...Can I root for ANYBODY in this show?? Damn politics suck Nvm I complained too soon lol
2024-06-25 02:10:28 Rhaenyra lost my support after this...that's crazy...Can I root for ANYBODY in this show?? Damn politics suck Nvm I complained too soon lol
2024-06-25 02:10:28 Rhaenyra lost my support after this...that's crazy...Can I root for ANYBODY in this show?? Damn politics suck Nvm I complained too soon lol
2024-06-25 02:10:28 Rhaenyra lost my support after this...that's crazy...Can I root for ANYBODY in this show?? Damn politics suck Nvm I complained too soon lol
2024-06-24 19:18:08 Rhaenyra lost my support after this...that's crazy...Can I root for ANYBODY in this show?? Damn politics suck Nvm I complained too soon lol

Rhaenyra lost my support after this...that's crazy...Can I root for ANYBODY in this show?? Damn politics suck Nvm I complained too soon lol

DreAKAWolves (edited)

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2024-06-25 02:10:28 Btw Allicent mad af for no reason, you took it this far to hate her house but you fucked her dad behind her back to become queen. And your dad got fired for being a snake then managed to slither back... This show man smh
2024-06-25 02:10:28 Btw Allicent mad af for no reason, you took it this far to hate her house but you fucked her dad behind her back to become queen. And your dad got fired for being a snake then managed to slither back... This show man smh
2024-06-25 02:10:28 Btw Allicent mad af for no reason, you took it this far to hate her house but you fucked her dad behind her back to become queen. And your dad got fired for being a snake then managed to slither back... This show man smh
2024-06-25 02:10:28 Btw Allicent mad af for no reason, you took it this far to hate her house but you fucked her dad behind her back to become queen. And your dad got fired for being a snake then managed to slither back... This show man smh
2024-06-25 02:10:28 Btw Allicent mad af for no reason, you took it this far to hate her house but you fucked her dad behind her back to become queen. And your dad got fired for being a snake then managed to slither back... This show man smh
2024-06-25 02:10:28 Btw Allicent mad af for no reason, you took it this far to hate her house but you fucked her dad behind her back to become queen. And your dad got fired for being a snake then managed to slither back... This show man smh
2024-06-24 19:20:42 Btw Allicent mad af for no reason, you took it this far to hate her house but you fucked her dad behind her back to become queen. And your dad got fired for being a snake then managed to slither back... This show man smh

Btw Allicent mad af for no reason, you took it this far to hate her house but you fucked her dad behind her back to become queen. And your dad got fired for being a snake then managed to slither back... This show man smh

Champion Bescos

People say this every episode for shows like this, and I disagree more often than not, but I *really* think this is tied with episode 3 as best of the season so far. Wonderful performances, writing, music. Only downside was the cinematography, where Sapochnik seems to have doubled down on his infamous low-lighting (it’s The Long Night all over again).

von

I like how Veymond sneaky told everybody get they shit together during the funeral speech 😂

Zakki

Ohhhh this episode was FIRE 🔥🔥🔥 And THAT’S how you subvert your audience’s expectations! *side-eyes D&D* I’m a book reader and they totally had me in those last 10-ish minutes, thinking Rhaenyra had Laenor killed. Watching it again now, there are a few bits in the Daemon x Rhaenyra conversation in the background that make more sense after the final reveal… “I love Laenor”, “then grant him this kindness”. Laenor is a warrior and he has been longing for an adventure after playing pretend in King’s Landing for all those years… I am really sad for Corlys and especially Rhaenys, but I’m glad that Laenor gets to LIVE somewhere else, free of the burdens and expectations placed on him because of this station. This event was adapted quite differently from how it happened in the books, but I like it so much more this way - same as Laena’s death. That’s the benefit of having a “history book” as a reference instead of a P.O.V novel - the producers have A LOT of room to tie all the bits of the story and I think they’ve been doing amazing so far. Amazing reaction, guys!

Argo2Unitard

That girls got more salt than The Dead Sea

ErendGoat

(Just to heat the comments up) Things didn’t start going wrong until Daemon awoke promiscuity in Rhaenyra. This is why a lot of times men protect women from themselves even if they see it as not fair. Hell in the real world the relations between men & women and the family is in shambles right now because of women becoming sexually liberated. So no shit is Alicent is jealous. She was forced into a marriage and had to do her duty by pumping out children by way of a 50 year old diseased man lying on top of her. All while losing her friends because of her position and the one friend she had as a child scoffed at her position and offered no consolation and ran off to do whatever she wanted despite the potential consequences it could bring optically to the legitimacy of throne and the ruling family (selfish because of promiscuous desires). Rhaenyra even went as far as to seduce and take advantage of Ser Criston basically risking his entire position as kings guard and his life for 30 minutes of of pleasure. Rhaenyra has basically compromised everyone down to their very lives because of her own desires. (Why men even till this day try to protect women from themselves but they’ll call it controlling). Hell Rhaenyra and Daemon just murdered an innocent servant so they could get married and go on protecting their lies and deceit. Anyone who blames Alicent are SPED. Rhaenyra is downfall of house targaryen and y’all will say that when her brutal death by Aegon’s dragon comes in the future seasons. Hell in the beginning of the show it literally said the only thing that could tear down the house of the dragon was itself

Champion Bescos
>>92893474

So did my wife and I! Lol, with vibrancy and brightness all the way up, and our tv is pretty darn good (not to brag). I still could see very little during the dragon riding sequence, but I suppose to each their own preference. I felt like The Northman handled night scenes a lot better with a similar approach.

James

LMAO y'all didn't notice he called Alicent his dead wife, Aemma, in the beginning.

Toby Alpha
>>92893658

don't you think Alicent being jealous could be because of her father pushing her into such a committed relationship so early in her life? Maybe sexual liberation for Alicent would've prevented the problem...

Antonio Williams
>>92893658

..."This is why a lot of times men protect women from themselves" ALSO "She was forced into marriage". Make it make sense...

Jae Lashon
>>92893658

So you had to throw in the spoiler at the end of your paragraph....you could have left that bit out.

WackySwacky
>>92893658

This whole situation is entirely fabricated by Otto Hightower. He set up his daughter with the king and made it his mission to get his grandchildren the throne. How is this not obvious?

WackySwacky
>>92893510

It's ultimately not that important to the story. We only saw the few scenes of her with Vhagar to set up Aemond stealing him this episode.

Khami

Viserys calling Alicent Aemma was such an overlooked scene

Jahari Fields

Y’all was cracking me up with the darkness jokes shot was hilarious 💀💀

ErendGoat

What he said^

ErendGoat
>>92893658

It’s not a spoiler. Everyone watched game of thrones where joffrey mentioned it. According to George we are meant to know of her death. Game of thrones was written before house of the dragon

ErendGoat
>>92893658

No correlation. Men protecting women from themselves was about Rhaenyra’s promiscuity then you brought up something I said about Alicent like it was a gotchu moment

Josetta Wootson

I bet y'all will change the tv settings now 🤣🤣🤣

NiToTheNah

Dragons never stop growing, so the older the dragon, the bigger they get. Thats why Vhagar is so large, because she's older than 100 years old.

Ryan Hill

Your setup must be off because I saw everything in this episode fine when I watched it. Also fyi Vhagar is female.

WackySwacky

Dragons are bound to a dragon rider until the rider dies. Then they are free to find another rider. Hence what happens in this episode with Aemond.

John Cedar
>>92893510

Yeah it's not important except that I didn't get the chance to know her so her death has no weight, despite this long ass funeral scene with a lot of solemn silence trying to make me feel something.

ErendGoat

And yea Rhaenyra didn’t actually kill laenar but her and Daemon did kill an innocent guard instead

Shay Peart

Daemon laughed to get the eyes staring at Rhanerya and her kids, and they are cousins technically through their mom

James
>>92893658

Besides this paragraph being extremely cringe, remove the spoiler weirdo. At least a quarter of the HOTD audience hasn't watched game of thrones, and I guarantee you 90% who did do not remember some random line from Joffrey 8 years ago.

Sundays

I'm pretty sure Daemon was chuckling in the beginning because of Vaemond basically @ing Rhaenyra during the speech about her non-velaryon blood having kids. He wasn't hysteric.

ErendGoat
>>92894816

Would you care to provide where you got that info from??? Because Danny in GOT had 3 dragons birth at the same time but Drogon was far bigger than the other two and drogon was massive for his age of 7 years at best. If thats the case if Drogon would’ve touched 100 he would’ve more than likely been 5x bigger than Vagar. So I just wanna know your source for that statement

Dirty_Oldman

The episode really wasn’t that dark for me. I never even touched the settings. Almost every reactor has been saying it’s dark.

Jae Lashon
>>92893658

Not everyone is going to remember that and not everyone has seen game of thrones so technically it is a spoiler and needs to be removed from your "essay"

ErendGoat
>>92893658

Aegon also made Rhaenyra’s son watch when his dragon ate her

Kingmakaii

Ik volaris sick of Allison by now and they turned that nigga into the fight back meme lmao nigga was getting his ass beat not even finna lie bro almost won that 4v1 😭

Vin
>>92895954

Same, to me I didn't notice anything was wrong until after I watched the entire episode then I heard a lot of feedback saying its hella dark.

Kevinsog24

Sheera was right, that was ‘The’ dagger

Dexter Blessed
>>92894816

That info came from the "World of Ice" and Fire" and "Fire and Blood" books. However, I have no idea why Dany's dragon became so big. Maybe because they were mutated by magic

NiToTheNah
>>92894816

From the books, I don't have a specific quotation, but GRRM/other show creator mention it themselves in the most recent behind the episode video on Youtube. GRRM has a lot of gripes with Game of Throne's dragons. The extra colour, shape and size differential in this show illustrates how much more interesting dragon design can be, something not shown really shown in GoT.

Infinity

these guys start off clapping themselves 5 mins into the show "Damn whos hand is that" bruhs.

Jay

Seeing Aemond turn up and claim Vhagar made me think about what Daemon said about Otto in ep 1. “He’s a second son who seeks to inherit nothing but what he claims for himself.” Aemond himself is the second son of king Viserys and 6th in line for the throne overall. By all means he seeks to inherit nothing until he claims the oldest and biggest dragon in Westeros. Regardless of what people think, I loved when he handled all four of them. He didn’t steal Vhagar, while Targaryen blood enables you to claim and ride a dragon, dragons are intelligent creatures, they aren’t lands or titles you get just because of your parents. Vhagar still made the choice to allow Aemond to ride her. It was a mutual bond, but regardless Aemond is a savage and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he and daemon have the same letters in their name. The only difference is. One has the d in front while the other is in the back. I foresee more chaos with this character.

Crispy

Aemond did NOT steal Vhagar. You can't steal a dragon. A dragon chooses you if they deem you worthy and then its yours until either you or the dragon dies. Baela felt she was entitled to Vhagar and she's just wrong.

Tinfoiled Bigfoot

I'm so confused, the two girls physically did start the fight. Was Aemond not allowed to defend himself? Regardless of what he said the other four kids were in the wrong there. Especially, since the end result is with Aemond being permanently disfigured.

Trashthlete

The setting was so dark that everyone looked Velaryon for a second.

WackySwacky

Both Laenor and Rheanyra knew that in order to secure the throne, Rheanyra would have to actually create legitimate heirs, something Laenor and her have failed to do. The fact that Rheanyra's 3 sons are bastards is known to literally EVERYONE in court. They hatched this plan so that Rheanyra and Daemon could make true heirs AND so Laenor could go live his best life with Qarl in the East.

Weiss Schnee

noticed many reactors talking about how dark the episode was but it didnt seem that bad to me when I watched it. maybe i just had a better quality version or something

WackySwacky
>>92893510

You aren't supposed to feel bad for Laena as much as see how the rest of the characters are reacting during the funeral scene.

October Veil

I believe Vayhgar is a female dragon. In ASOIAF, dragons grow until they die. So, she’s basically the biggest dragon because she’s also the oldest. Also, wondering if Laenor’s dragon seasmoke stayed on driftmark, or followed him. Dragons bond with their riders as long as the rider lives. So I’m thinking seasmoke disappearing, or staying and NOT bonding with another rider should be some kinda clue to his folks that he’s not dead. Unless its not, lol.

Pilausky

Ya'll giving tribute to the darkness with the last 8 minutes? lol

Kris Khachikyan
>>92894816

Because Drogon was free most of the time thats why he grew faster while the other two remained smaller because they were kept in chains. Also GOT messed it up and made Drogon too large too soon. He wasnt supposed to be that big naturally. They just rushed it

Ryan Hill
>>92897173

Aemond talked shit. Rhaena pushed him a little. He shoved her to the ground. Baela punches him in the face. He punches her in the face. Aemond, an 8 year old, gets teamed up on by three 7 year olds and a 6 year old. Aemond then escalates with the rock. Jacaerys responds with a knife. Aemond disarms Jacaerys of said knife. Lucerys protects his brother, using the knife, from Aemond using the rock to possibly kill. Seems like a case of talk shit and get hit that escalated because it's a bunch of spoiled rich sub-10 year old kids. 3 of which were grieving the loss of a parent and 1 didn't even know his dad just died.

John Cedar
>>92893510

I dont feel bad for anyone, thats the point. A funeral for a character that I didn't know is empty. Especially when we didn't see her interact with her brother or mother or father, like ever.

Kris Khachikyan

A nice change from the books. Laenor actually gets killed by Qarl in the books, or is at least believed to have been killed by Daemon’s order. I like this change tho it makes Rhaenya and Daemon more likeable. They need to stay more likeable than the Greens for the show to work.

Kris Khachikyan
>>92897534

Vhagar is a female dragon. Seasmoke will be back but we probably won’t see him until season 2. He plays a big role in the war

Carlos

Y'all thought Daemon was a menace, wait till buddy Aemond One-Eye gets going. Dude is gonna be a problem.

Derick

If you remember last episode "the girl with the centipede" said it will cost him a eye AND...WELL...IT DID.

Jmooth Sazz

smh Aemond didn't even start the fight, the girl jumped on him then he got snuffed and the princess needs to stop acting innocent, she lied to alicent when they were younger about daemon and she's still lying about her fake kids

trippersigs22

Just to make it clear hes didnt "steal" Vhaegar. Its not like a car being passed down. Dragons choose who they bond to and Vhaegar chose Aemond. Doesnt matter who rode it prior, because by thats logic Aemond was just returning Vhaegar to her original Targaryean riders.

Jmooth Sazz

Also i love how the majority of people are root for the side of incest AND daemon, yall crazy lmao

Code Kisaro

Yo the dagger Alicent used is in the same shape of the pupil for the eye in the poster for the show.

Moses T24
>>92897119

Yes a dragon chooses its rider so in a sense Aemond didn’t steal Vahgar but he did rob the girl from the opportunity to getting the dragon and she was literally mourning her mother’s death so I understand where her anger is coming from. I do like that Aemond got confidence now and I understand him being an asshole to Rhaenyra’s kids coz they used to bully him but he was a dickhead to the girls and he did escalated the whole fight especially because he was talking mad shit

earthphoenix7068

Pretty sure Vhagar was ridden by one of the Targaryens before Laena.

WackySwacky
>>92897694

The thing is, the books are written by 3 different unreliable narrators. The maesters or Mushroom would have no idea that Laenor actually lived.

Infinity
>>92897694

but they aint. Anyone with a brain anyway can see they both selfish and a problem. The Greens are the good guys in this story lol.

Sincerely, the Best.

Remember, alicents daughter Heleana predicted that aemond was going to lose an eye to get the dragon. Alicent said something like "you will get a dragon" and heleana whispered "he will have to close an eye" not exact words but something like that!

Infinity
>>92898137

i know right its very clear whos the good side and whos the bad but people mostly got Low IQ and just wanna see incest and selfishness win.

Ash

Great episode. The were wrong for making 85% of it in absolute darkness tho

WackySwacky

Vhagar is the biggest dragon because she is the oldest dragon. They keep getting larger until they die. Vhagar is around 180 years old as of the next episode. She was present during the original Targaryen conquest of Westeros 130 years before the show's time.

October Veil

I had the same darkness problem on my tv, but could see everything fine on my computer and iPad. I hate the “it’s a creative choice” defense. It’s simply annoying not to be able to see that big ass dragon on the screen in such a pivotal scene.

Kris Khachikyan
>>92897694

Depends on the way u look at it. I’ve read the book so maybe that’s why I’m team Black over team Green. I can see why people would be team Green so far. The thing is neither side is necessarily good. Both are evil. You choose which one you think is less evil.

Consectives

No one mentions Aemond calming Vhagar because a dragon chooses its rider they can’t be stolen. They aren’t a pet to be passed down from family member to family member. Aemond may have instigated the fight, but he wasn’t the one who threw the first punch that was Baela.

WackySwacky
>>92898137

Rheanyra is the actually heir, for one, and this whole situation was engineered by Otto Hightower, Alicent's father, so that he could make his own grandchildren the next king. The only legs the Greens have to stand on is that Rheanyra's 3 kids are clearly bastards, but this is why she comes up with the plan to get rid of Laenor and marry Daemon to gain true born heirs to the throne.

x_XBurner361

Where’s the Lord of Light or a Red Woman when you need them…

EZ

all that hang time at the end of the video had me thinking we were in for a long discussion lol

Alex2882
>>92894816

Drogon in the books is barely big enough to hold Dany in the sky. Also, Dragons in general grow bigger if they are free, since the creation of the Dragonpit were dragons were born into a cave and grow inside it, the size of dragons in general suffer a downside. It is said that some dragons stopped growing after a certain size for being in captivity and not free.

Champion Bescos
>>92893658

Your refusal to remove a spoiler or even put a proper spoiler warning invalidates anything you’re trying to say.

MM

did yall know Viscerys actor is the same as the Priest in Peaky Blinders

Champion Bescos

Nah, Aemond is older than all of those kids if I recall correctly. He should be better. He’s also the typical “I was bullied, now I’m allowed to be the bully” asshole (see Hawk and Kenny from CK for variations of this) of the kids. I don’t think we’re supposed to HATE any of the kids right now, mind you, as they’re all young and immature and clearly influenced by their parents in a very violent world, but Aemond was being a cocky dick and escalated things by making it personal against kids grieving for a lost parent. He may not have “stolen” the dragon, yeah, but he was proud of rubbing it in the faces of the girls who just lost their mom, regardless of Jace or Luce teasing him alongside his brother.

Freeofgreed
>>92895954

Yeah it was fine for me as well. Have no idea what kind of setups these people are watching this on.

Freeofgreed
>>92897694

"They need to stay more likeable than the Greens for the show to work." This wasn't the case in the book and the book worked... The show making the sides less gray and having a more clear protagonist, makes things less interesting for me.

Freeofgreed

IDK how anyone can side against Aemond in that fight. He didn't "steal" Vhagar as dragons are not property in this universe. Plus he was attacked first. He was talking shit yes, but he was bullied by them previously and he's just a kid himself. Not to mention it was 4 v 1.

Derpatron731

Not many people catch this but at 12:18 when the king is saying he’s going to bed to Alicent he actually says “I’m going to bed Aemma” the name of his first wife. And when the knight corrected him he paused, and the two stared at each other before he walked off, showing even after all these years he still grieves her

Joey Zero
>>92894816

Dragons are not all the same size when they are the same age. Drogon was simply a larger dragon than the other two on top of being free rather than chained up in the dragon pit. This caused Drogon to grow much larger than his siblings.

Derpatron731

I also find it interesting how both Lady Laena and her brother were the kids of the Lord of the Tides, yet they both suffered the same death by fire (well technically not the brother, but the symbolism remained). And like Rhaenyra was saying, her and Daemon are forged by fire, and were both the causes of their partners deaths

すもも麻子
>>92905002

Not many people catch this but at 17:39 of Episode 6, Helaena predicted that Aemond would have to "close an eye", when Alicent said that he will have a dragon one day.

Argo2Unitard
>>92904410

He talked shit and got hit, he deserved that. Then he pulled a rock and tried to bash his cousins head in, so he deserved losing his eye. And it's a 4v1, but he's like 2 years older than the oldest kid, and that matters a lot at that age.

AceOfHope
>>92904410

not in a 4 on 1 it dont, he was being a dick 100% but he got attacked defended himself picked up a rock and taunted them he never went to swing unless i missed that part. deserved to get put down a peg not have his eye taken

EmoBurrito

Did they not learn from GOT? Why do they insist on making some scenes so fucking dark lol. Also idk what you'll were watching but they literally attacked Aemond first. Yes, he did claim the dragon but the dragon deemed him worthy. As far as I'm concerned dude was literally just defending himself and winning. Can't expect him to just get attacked and not fight back. He CLUTCHED that 1v4

Arc

Dragons don't really have a lifespan - they'll grow their whole life, the bigger the dragon the older it is.

john segun doe

Lady Alicent Gangy out here. Aemond is becoming a fucking badass

john segun doe

Aemond a G bruh! he Claimed Vhagar. Him getting slashed is whatever cuz he had the rock over Lucerys brothers head so it is what it is (self defence). From Alicent's POV she wakes up and sees her son maimed permanently with his eye slashed vs the others who were barely hurt apart from the kid with the broken nose (which will heal), plus she sees its 4v1, which we've seen in the past of Alicent be concerned of Aemond being subject to bullying all the time so with all that in mind her reaction or rather "over-reaction" was totally understandable. She's like bruh my son lost something permanent and we just gon act like it was a measly fight & to move on..... NAWWWW a "debt must be paid". Context is key y'all. FIRE S-TIER EPISODE

Christina

Bro if my son got jumped and his eye took I’d want someone’s mf eye too I ain’t even mad at alicent for this one. Also I hate that just because the girl said “someone stole Vhagar” people think Aemond actually stole the dragon. You can’t steal dragons. He claimed Vhagar in his own right, if the dragon didn’t want him as a rider he would’ve been toast. I do feel bad I know where the kids coming from, she’s thought she would have her moms dragon and someone got to her before she did but tough luck. Also if I’m getting jumped I’m definitely reaching for a rock??? All Aemond did was tell them her mothers dead, which sure ouch but it’s the truth and then told them to get a pig because that’s what Jace and the other did to them. Then he got shoved, he shoved back, and then the other girl rocked his shit. I don’t really know where everyone got that he started this fight.

Colin Donnelly

The dagger belonged to visyaris which is where alicent grabbed it

Freeofgreed
>>92904410

So it's okay for someone to physically attack him first, but him defending himself against being jumped is bad? What kind of backwards logic is that??? Not to mention they're all prepubescent, the strength differences between them aren't squat.

Greg Read

its not the shows fault you cant see or the tv. its the damn lights you have blowing out your cones lol. all reactors who sit in a heavly lit room can never see shit. blind wave does the same shit.

Lamaree Jackson

“We’ve never had to defend princes from princes” is that a big fucking oof to hear in a game of thrones world

Peter Uzoegwu
>>92897173

Stop tryin to minimize the role the “young girl” played in starting the fight, weather she shoved him a little or not, she started the physical altercation, u don’t get to start being physical with an opponent that is stronger than u and expect him to be gentle wit u because you’re too week to do any actual damage. Was he talking shit or was he actually stating the fact of the matter?? Her mom is dead, the dragon chose him not her, and the boys are bastards. Just because his words hurt your feelings or there feelings doesn’t mean he is “talking shit”. Are words equal to physical attacks??

PeachBrune
>>92914651

I feel like lighting or TV settings were definitely at play here, I know some people just dont appreciate dark scenes and how they can impact the moments but these came out fine on my monitor even in a lit room

trippersigs22
>>92914651

I dont think so. Tons of Watcher had the same problem. I watched it in a dark room and had the same problem.

Greg Read
>>92914651

Looked fantastic on my x85j I actually thought the scenes were saturated with moonlight ,I could see everything

Danny
>>92917227

they be like "this aint in our job description"

Danny

dragons can hav new dragon riders after the death of their current rider. Vhager was originally, i believe visenyas (aegons the conqueror's sister)

PeachBrune
>>92904410

Its easy to think that as a viewer that his claiming of the dragon was earned, but in the moment those girls are dealing with some random kid they dont know who shows up being an asshole, not even the slightest bit concerned that they just lost their mother and that the dragon was closely tied to that whole scenario. He only cares about himself and fulfilling his power fantasy. the exchange before he gets "jumped" isnt really on him outside of instigating it but he then gets up talks shit and openly declares that he wants to kill the boys for being bastards. It was only 2v1 ( the girls back out of the fight once it gets escalated) from there because dude is straight up an asshole lmao, I feel like after that point you lose the "logic" of siding with him, he only lost his eye because of continuing to push the issue and trying to escalate the fight. If we wasn't immediately a huge prick about the dragon and the girls mother in the first place he probably would have just scuffled with them and walked out still having a dragon and 2 eyes

PeachBrune
>>92914651

@trippersigs22 I dont disagree with you, I think that's probably true but a large percentage of TV watchers also know absolutely nothing about how much their settings can impact the presentation of a show, so I wouldn't be surprised if a ton of people had issues and it was still their own setups fault

PeachBrune
>>92912849

I feel like if random kid you barely know swipes the dragon that was your moms ( even if theres no real "rules") and jabs at me because she died very recently, he probably getting snuffed regardless lmao. A lot of people would probably feel the same as those girls but as a viewer you just watched a whole triumphant scene of Aemond finally getting a win so you have his feelings on your mind more than last ep

Lamaree Jackson

Buddy kept looking at Ser Criston like he feels an I have the high ground showdown coming

Riku

rhaenyra having a random guard killed so that leanor could leave and live a happy life was fighting for gay rights like it is what it is

Alexis Sullivan

In the last episode Alicent's daughter Haelena was mumbling under her breath when Aemond came to Alicent crying about the pig prank. When he was talking about not having a dragon Haelena in the back said "he'll have to close an eye". This confirms thats shes not an idiot like Aegon claimed, shes not mumbling random shit, shes a prophet or dream seer.

vesra

There's a looot of subtle stuff in this episode and I love it. Daemon laughing at the euology to take the attention away from Rhaenyra and her kids clearly not being Velaryons; King Viserys accidentally calling Alicent Aemma in public; All the silent looks and judgment being passed.

N_JR

The dagger was the same one Arya uses. It belongs to the king, not Rhaenyra.

Kris Khachikyan
>>92897694

Well I guess the viewers I have talked to so far prefer to have someone to root for. There won’t be any clear heroes or villains like Starks or Lannisters but at least the viewers need someone to root for. I enjoyed the book too the way it was.

HalfroSamurai

Aemond getting jumped was exactly what I needed to get through the day.

Alex
>>92914651

The "darkness" setting when it had that weird balance was just clearly a case where it was shot during the day, and then used as night footage. It looked absolutely awful.

Hex

Rather than larger dragons having shorter lifespans, it's sort of the opposite. They don't stop growing, so generally the largest dragons are the oldest ones. Vhagar has been around for a long time before Aemond or Laena claimed her. The whole "stole" aspect of it is a bit suspect too, dragons are free to choose who they want, but the move was definitely a bit shady.

Kelschman

As far as I know, there is never a confirmed instance of targaryens having incest between parent and child. You guys were right, it's just siblings, cousins and uncle/aunt with niece/nephew. It also depended on the targaryens in question, since we see viserys was not really down for it when daemon asked to marry rhaenyra.

Spencer Wattamaniuk
>>92893474

It definitely wasn't natural lighting, it's pretty clear by the shadows that they shot during the day and did the night effects in post-production. Could explain why it doesn't look as good as The Northman.

Nioh
>>92898137

Well Alicent literally married her kids together so…

John Victor Oak

I didnt have any problems watching the episode only found out that people thought it was too dark later watching reactions. So I’d say it’s 100% a settings problem which y’all should’ve just paused and solved lol.

Isaiah Cox

I’m on Alicent’s side literally everything she said is true. Rhaenyra gets away with everything with little to no consequences because of her father and if that was y’all kid whose eye got stabbed out like that ain’t no way you wouldn’t be acting like Alicent.

EmoBurrito
>>92955910

Right? Especially since he was also NOT the one that started the physical fight lol

Jigga Man

"Just leave royalty, go do what you want!" -YaBoyCole

John Victor Oak
>>92955910

They're trying to paint Rhaenyra as a hero. The tv series I mean. Daemon 100% paid Qarl to kill Laenor and later clapped Qarl, as it's suspected in the books. Laenor being alive would make no sense considering what we know about dragon lore. Seasmoke shouldn't be able to get claimed by Addam Velaryon if Laenor was alive and would have gone after Laenor. And in the books Rhaenyra mocks Laenor for being gay, she never had a good relationship with him. Everything points to them clapping Laenor. Bad call by the showrunners imo.

PeachBrune
>>92955910

Alicent's whole position as the queen is a scam and a setup lmao by her dad though, I feel like thats why the king still doesnt side with her or buy into it even if he knows she's right about rhaenyra. All that does is set up a hightower to fuck his other family members over and get power when he wanted to be able to pass it to his daughter. also referring to the booklore above, its all 2nd hand accounts anyways we dont know many of the actual events

Shaun A

Yo am I trippin? Aemon was defending himself and buddy just got a dragon so his adrenaline is on a 1000. Plus you can't steal a dragon, it those him.

slipHAZARD
>>92963624

Aemon was totally just defending himself. They drew first blood

john segun doe
>>92961280

YaboyCole🤣💀. Ngl the🧂Ser criston has is absolute comedy & im here for it

Igby

The darkness was an issue mostly due to the fact that they shot a lot of the episode using "Day for Night". So they have to make all the daylight scenes look like nighttime in post (lowering exposure, black/blue filter, etc). Usually its a bad idea to do that, some films get away with it though...So its likely they edited everything on their film grade monitors and called it a day, without testing it on an assortment of normal TV's. So its dark for some people and not for others.

Ntongmo Noubissie

Great reaction! Just so you guys know, dragons can't be "stolen". Dragons bond with a rider, and won't let anyone else ride them while that particular rider is till alive. Since dragons live for centuries however, once their current rider is dead, it's fair game for whoever gets to them first. P.S. Vhagar is a female dragon, one of originals used during the conquest!

Max Wigler

A few quick things I wanted to add to people talking about the Vhagar scene that may or may not have been mentioned, but fuck it: 1) Dragons will continuously grow with age, so the size-age ratio is just straight congruent 2) Vhagar is the last living dragon of Aegon's conquest as Visenya's dragon, so is definitely the biggest tank on the board right now 3) Vhagar is female, so Aemond is a milf-hunter. Other than that, the sad thing is that they film those night scenes during the day for easier shooting hours (if there's a different reason for that, feel free to let me know!) and they did that same shit with the battle of winterfell in season 8 and for some fucking reason decided to double down on that abhorred technique? Biggest flaw in the show so far imo, but a great episode aside that. Fucking awesome reaction as always! Much love.

Max Wigler

Also, the first few vids I watched from y'all I always heard about the sheeragan, and it never panned out. About almost two years later, that fucking knee-jerk intuition Sheera-gan is mf BIBLE

Andre

I just realized when Laena was a little kid she was talking to the king about Vhagar, and her sad songs in the narrow sea. Cool to see she claimed the dragon for herself, but damn seeing the punk Aemon stealing her was crazy.

Andre

I think a point that is under-communicated is that Alicent is fighting for her, and her kids lives at this point. Remember back to Rhaenyra saying "Damon didn't touch me, I haven’t ruined my integrity, I swear on my mother's memory"… Later when Cole admitted to knocking boots she realized she couldn’t trust this girl for schit….. Fast forward to when Otto said, yo you have two options: (one) when war breaks out because these ninjas will not respect a woman sitting on the throne, they will challenge her, you can cling to her and hope for mercy – because a time will come where her advisors will tell her the only way to end the infighting and strengthen her claim is to kill the competition (Alicent’s kids). Or (two) get ready to fight for the throne. From her POV it’s clear she can’t trust or rely on Rhaenyra (a liar who doesn’t follow the rules) mercy therefore she moved on path two and therefore she can’t let up at this point, because Rhaenyra is definitely going to body her and her children when she ascends at this point. Not saying she is right or wrong, but I see a lot of love for Rhae and a lot of hate for Alicent, but she is just doing what she feels is right.

Arsean Wilbon

Y’all are so dense in the comments it’s ridiculous. Yes he didn’t steal a dragon he stole the opportunity of the girl to try to claim her mothers dragon. Aemond knew exactly what he was doing. Yes the girls started the fight but talking all that shit and literally stealing opportunity put his ass in that situation. Yes he can defend himself as he should but once he picked up that rock he elevated it to another level. All in all both sides are wrong 😑. But we get to finally start to see how vile Aemond really is now that he has a dragon

Danny
>>93011130

all in all both sides are wrong but just because he talks shit, dont mean you attack him. The first girl lunged at him, he threw her aside. The 2nd one sucker punched him so he did the same. Then the rest jumped him so he raised a rock. WHICH he didnt use until Jace pulled out the blade. He raised the rock and was thinking of hitting Luke with it BUT DIDNT. You telling me that if a man pulls up on you with a blade and you got a rock in your hand, you are at fault for using it? Despite how vicious Aemond sounded, the other kids were in the wrong COMPLETELY. Not even remotely were they in the right. There is no "claim" on dragons. Vhagar doesnt belong to anyone except its current rider. Dragons are not family titles or lands. The first rider of Vhagar was Visenya and clearly it was not passed down because she had no other child other than Maegor. The daughters did not have any "right" to Vhagar. Vhagar was riderless before it let Laena ride her. First come first serve. The Dragons themselves also determine if the rider is worthy of them.

Tabbs
>>92897173

“Raena pushed him a little” ok what did you think her thought process was? That she was going to push Aemond and he wouldn’t respond?

John Smith
>>93011130

None of the kids were in the wrong, they're fucking kids. The ones at fault here are Rhaenyra and Alicent.

Jessica Grey

Ngl I'm team Daemon.

$am
>>92893658

I think it’s more of the fact that Alicent sided with Rhaenyra against her father’s accusations of promiscuity. Then Alicient later found out that Rhaenyra told her a lie of omission which led to her father getting expelled as Hand. Most reactors, the roshi crew included, tend to view this show through a modern lens. This is a fictional adaptation of the middle ages where people lived by vastly different principles from the ones we live by today. It’s not a story of good guys vs bad guys even though Rhaenyra is seen as the protagonist. It’s a story of the choices made by people of distinguished birth to get ahead. Once you look at it that way, you’ll def enjoy the story a lot more

Robert Golden

I'm team Aemon. Complete self-defense. He was talking shit, but he wasn't the first one to get physical.

Robert Golden
>>92955910

That's one of the things I hate the most about the show. For some reason, the showrunners keep trying to portray Rhaenyra as a saint. But she is not meant to be a good person in any capacity.

God Enel
>>93156536

Bro this, them sayin he started it made me close the video lol her kids bully him and he was talking shit to em. Go Aemon.

Bryant Reed
>>92963624

Did y’all watch the episode aemon pulled up on them talking shit first that self defense shit is out the window

rickie woodson

aemon was a piece shit the whole two episodes. saw his "heel turn" a mile away cause they were obviously setting him up to be a future villain along with aegon the douchebag. so glad this plan was a whole play and they did not kill laenor. i was ready to jump ship til i saw the body come out the fire "whew its not him. wait, why is momma crying? that is clearly not your son maam" lol hope laenor and qarl have a nice happy ending

rickie woodson
>>92950164

its season 8 all over again. i could see just fine, all the reactioners were complaining lol

rickie woodson
>>92955910

i hold people accountable. im fair and logical. if my son was an evil piece of shit: well thats what you get. i raised you better than that. enjoy your karma. live in reality not emotions boo boo

rickie woodson
>>92955910

having bastards aka got away with the same thing many kings have gotten away with and what the lannisters get away with in game of thrones. humans are so bias and hypocritical i just cant with em. "its ok when my fave does it but not when people i dont like does it" lol so glad to be #mutantandproud #kraokoa

rickie woodson

that may not be their father but those are still their cousins: laena's mom = rhaenyra's second cousin (first cousin to viserys). so their children are cousins. daemon is rhaenyra's uncle so his children (laena's kids) are also their cousin so they are cousins twice over. they are all targaryans, they are just not all velaryons.....plus, the father that raised is the father.

These Plums

Lmao I love y'all but your GoT dragon knowledge is off.

Doffy

love the salt over Aemond getting Vhagar

Vayne
>>93156536

I mean Aegon bullys Aemon the most and the others follow his lead. obviously kids are going to follow the top dog especially boys. Aemon pulled out the rock first, punching is one thing but arming urself is another

Anonymous

Team Alicent With kids! Kill the bastards

Lamaree Jackson
>>93322547

Tbf the dragon knowledge and the stuff surrounding isn’t explained very well because they just expect everyone to go “😲 dragons.” Like they didn’t even explain that Danaerys wasn’t actually fireproof. The lord of light just gave her a one time blessing after she burned the witch bitch alive, and brought her dragons back just like he did Jon Snow. They just ran with the Mother of Dragons shit.