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Last week, we bid farewell to Justinian and Theodora. Today, we look back on the lies we told in exploring his story!

P.S. The audio pop has now been fixed!

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Justinian & Theodora - Lies 2 - Extra History

Support us on Patreon! http://bit.ly/EHPatreon Grab your Extra Credits gear at the store! http://bit.ly/ExtraStore Subscribe for new episodes every Saturday! http://bit.ly/SubToEC --- (Episode details below) Watch the Broad Street Pump series! http://bit.ly/1J89hPd Play games with us on Extra Play! http://bit.ly/WatchEXP Talk to us on Twitter (@ExtraCreditz): http://bit.ly/ECTweet Follow us on Facebook: http://bit.ly/ECFBPage Get our list of recommended games on Steam: http://bit.ly/ECCurator ____________ By the time Narses was sent to join him Italy, Belisarius had been away from Constantinople for a very long time. The royal family wasn't sure if they could still trust him, or if his repeated victories had gone to his head, so they sent Narses (who had been in Constantinople and earned their trust) to keep an eye on him. But this laid the groundwork for disputes that would unravel the military effort there. John looked down on the "barbarian" Ostrogoths and did not consider them a threat, so he viewed the war in Italy as a political battlefield between his friend Narses and his commander Belisarius. Although Procopius defends John's courage and capability as a cavalry commander, John did not see the bigger picture in Italy and his actions interfered with Belisarius's overall strategy even though Narses and his family connection to the previous emperor helped keep him safe from repercussions. Belisarius wound up doing the same thing when he refused Justinian's orders to leave Italy immediately. And in the end, the arrival of the plague - Bubonic Plague, the Black Death - interfered with all their plans. Although we believe Theodora's actions helped hold the empire together, historians like Procopius take a much darker view: he thought she went power-mad and ruined everything. It's also worth taking a moment to point out that Theodora was a miaphysite Christian, not a monophysite as we described her in this series. We'll clarify the difference in a future series on Early Christian Heresies, but for right now we decided to simplify. And there was one thing we left out of this series, a story we love about how Justinian succeeded (where so many had failed) in getting silk worms out of China by bribing monks to smuggle silk worm eggs away in their canes. He helped found a silk industry that brought a lot of money to the empire, and helped it survive longer than it might have otherwise. ____________ Get the intro music here! http://bit.ly/1EQA5N7 *Music by Demetori: http://bit.ly/1AaJG4H Get the outro music here! http://bit.ly/1iYzuEx *Music by Sean and Dean Kiner: http://bit.ly/1LBy9zh

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ExtraCredits

Oh, and at the end, James references the vote for the next series topic! That vote will go live on Saturday, when the video's released to the rest of the world. Early Access creates some interesting confusion.

Forrest Venable

Video has been removed by user?

Anonymous

Did you guys accidentally post it publicly or something?

Turlas85

Can't watch it. What happened?

Turlas85

OH, nevermind! Hope you can figure out the issue!

ExtraCredits

We were re-uploading to fix the audio pop! It's fixed now, so try the new link!

ExtraCredits

Nah, we had an audio issue at the start of the episode. We had to pull the original upload in order to make a new one, and it took a while for the new version to be ready. Sorry about that - it's ready now!

ExtraCredits

We pulled the original link to fix the audio issue at the start of the episode, but it took a while for YouTube to process the upload on the replacement. So it was down for a bit, but the link (and audio) is fixed so we're back now! Sorry for that.

Anonymous

"Eary Christian Heresies" sounds like a great subject, but the title is a little bit problematic in my opinion. Heresy is a very negatively charged term, and also it makes it seem like these were short-lived, excessive and violent affairs. But that's a conception of the word "heresy" that stems from the way medieval (and later) heresies were often looked upon. Early Christian denominations like Arianism or Monophysites or Nestorites, on the contrary, were well-established faiths that sometimes lasted for centuries. Of course, in the eyes of the denominations that later prevailed, they were heretical, but yeah... I know it makes for a clearer title for a series, I just hope it will be clear that for some centuries Arianism, Monophysites etc were actual parallel forms of Christianity. Anyway, sorry for the rant, and thanks again for a great show!

Anonymous

I'm so glad James mentioned the Silk, that felt like one of the more unusual beneficial achievements of Rome.

ExtraCredits

Sometimes we do choose what makes a clear (and attention-getting) title for the series in order to get people to check the videos out and hopefully learn something - at which point it becomes our goal to do right by the subject matter and present it with more nuance than the title might convey. :)

ExtraCredits

I blame Justinian for having so many accomplishments that it was hard (narratively) to encompass them all!

Anonymous

Wow, the story of the silk worm eggs was awesome. Were the Byzantines able to prevent other European empires from stealing silk worms from them? Is that why it helped them so much financially?

ExtraCredits

They were until the Crusades! During the Second Crusade, the king of Sicily took over some old Byzantine silk centers and imported the industry to Italy. Later Crusades helped break down and spread the silk industry even further.