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Bertrand du Guesclin was the hero the French needed. Focused on fortifying defenses and cities, Guesclin rebutted the advances of the Black Prince--who ended up contracting an illness that undid his iconic image of triumph and chivalry. Edward became beset by drama in the royal court, and England started to lose power...  

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History of England - Ashes - Extra History - #4

Bertrand du Guesclin was the hero the French needed. Focused on fortifying defenses and cities, Guesclin rebutted the advances of the Black Prince--who ended up contracting an illness that undid his iconic image of triumph and chivalry. Edward became beset by drama in the royal court, and England started to lose power... Thanks again to David Crowther for writing AND narrating this series! https://thehistoryofengland.co.uk/podcasts/history-of-england/ Join us on Patreon! http://bit.ly/EHPatreon (--More below) Check out all our shows at http://becauselearningmatters.com Grab your Extra Credits gear at the store! http://bit.ly/ExtraStore Subscribe for new episodes every Saturday! http://bit.ly/SubToEC Thanks for participating in this week's discussion! We want you to be aware of our community posting guidelines so that we can have high-quality conversations: https://becausegamesmatter.com/extra-credits-community-code-of-conduct Contribute community subtitles to Extra History: http://www.youtube.com/timedtext_cs_panel?c=UCCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg&tab=2 Talk to us on Twitter (@ExtraCreditz): http://bit.ly/ECTweet Follow us on Facebook: http://bit.ly/ECFBPage Watch us play games and have fun on http://bit.ly/ECtwitch ____________ ♪ Get the intro music here! http://bit.ly/1EQA5N7 *Music by Demetori: http://bit.ly/1AaJG4H ♪ Outro music: "Extra History Theme" by Sean and Dean Kiner http://www.thekinerbrothersmusic.com/

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Anonymous

I'm not quite sure why the king and prince starting to butcher people savagely is presented as a "personal tragedy" that "robbed them of their humanity" instead of a tragedy for the butchered people that were robbed of their lives?? and then the story continues to praise them as if they were still heroes and good dudes, did I miss something?

The Deaf Mans Lands

@Lana I think the tragedy is how they fell from the perceived view of nobility that they abided to prior. They still slaughtered people and butchered the countryside even before he fell ill, but now he was much less scrupulous about it.

Anonymous

Brandon has the right idea. The tragedy stems from how Edward and the Black Prince went from being exemplars of the Age of Chivalry to being brought low by disease and death, forces outside of their control. This isn't to erase the violence of The Black Prince after disease seemed to drive him mad, or the corruption of Edward III's court, but English history tends to remember them as heroes overall. But it's up to you to determine if you feel that way or not! - A