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Angel 4x01 "Deep Down" Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2021-05-24 00:51:19
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2023-09-10 08:04:31
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Tia

Although what Connor did was wrong I love the relationship he grew with Gunn and Fred during the Angel’s disappearance. Fred reaction to Connor when she found out what he did it was amazing! The Wes and Angel stuff was also amazing for such a strained relationship. This was a great season opener.

Free Your Geek

Love the lesson that Angel tries to teach Connor! “Nothing in the world is the way it ought to be. It’s harsh and cruel. But that’s why there’s us. Champions. We live as though the world were as it should be, to show it what it can be!” Still gives me goosebumps.

Yesmydog

This is my favorite Angel season premiere too! We got Angel's monologue at the end, Fred tazing Connor, "I'll take away your bucket," and my favorite Lilah moment of the entire series! Actually that scene with Lilah has an easter egg for musical theater fans - Linwood says "this is my corner of the sky." Corner of the Sky is a song from the musical Pippin, sung by the title character. Who originally played Pippin on Broadway? John Rubinstein, the actor who plays Linwood!

Foamy

3 comments? Season 4 is controversial, but jeez people...

KT

Really great observation about Fred taking it extra personally, I never thought about that. It's interesting because in 3x21, she tried to connect to Connor by talking about her experience of being trapped in Pylea. But Connor saw Quor-Toth as his home. He thought he belonged there. Earth is his Pylea. But in this ep, she sees Connor as essentially sending Angel to a hell dimension on purpose, and she responds with uncontrollable rage.

KT
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Also, I've been doing a lot of thinking lately about Connor's character. His "even if, you still deserved it" response to being told the truth comes across as bratty and pig-headed, which it is, but I think there's a more important takeaway. And it's that lacking information has never been Connor's problem, trauma is. Truth does not fix trauma. Being told that someone loves you is not the same as feeling loved. His entire worldview was shaped by Holtz. Finding out Angel had a soul and is good doesn't matter because Holtz didn't adequately teach him what goodness is or what it means. Finding out Holtz tricked him into thinking Angel killed him doesn't matter because Holtz made Connor's moral compass center around the "legacy of hatred" for Angel. Turning the other cheek would mean rejecting Holtz's teachings, reject the only attachment he's ever had. Which is an incredibly difficult thing for anyone to do, especially a teenager who grew up without ever feeling safe and whose only source of love (1) essentially rejected and abandoned him, and (2) recently died. And who isn't receiving any psychological help. And is now homeless. Connor is not a real person, thank god, but there are plenty of people in real life that grew up in hell. Abusive households, war zones, abject poverty. So while all of this is incredibly unpleasant, it's relatively easy to psychoanalyze him.