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Lucifer 2x17 "Sympathy for the Goddess" Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2020-11-03 23:30:15
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2021-07

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Heidi Elizabeth Marcum

Sympathy For the Goddess- Thank you for another fun reaction! I enjoy this episode. However, I have to admit this episode is probably one of my least favorite episodes of this season, if not throughout the entire show as well. It's still enjoyable, but there are some ideas or storylines throughout this episode that I just don't really care all that much for. But with that being said... the last five to ten minutes showing the final two scenes are amazing, and they are easily the two best scenes throughout this episode. First... what happens in the end between Charlotte and the rapper kid is so mind blowing and completely unexpected. And I love it! I was shocked when the kid suddenly stabs her in order to keep her from talking and for putting him in prison, and even more shocked when Charlotte's Goddess powers suddenly bursts out of her wound and burns his body. What a rush! Also... I love your reactions to this moment too. It's for reactions like yours that I really enjoy watching reaction videos for my favorite shows. :) And second... my absolute favorite scene throughout this entire episode is the ending between Lucifer and Amenadiel, when Amenadiel is working on the translations from the book, while Lucifer is waiting by playing the piano. Although, I do have to say that I'm really kind of sick and tired of Amenadiel constantly being angry with Lucifer since season one for him supposedly being their father's favorite son like all writings about Lucifer supposedly claim him to be, and like Amenadiel believes him to be. Lucifer certainly doesn't believe himself to be the favorite son because he's never felt like he is upon feeling unloved and cast out by his father. And he certainly never asked to be God's favorite son. It's not his fault. So, I'm sick of Amenadiel's attitude towards his brother for it. It's gotten a bit old. So, I appreciate that Lucifer defends himself and honestly says he doesn't know of any key entrusted to him by their father. But with that being said... this scene is still my favorite within this episode. I love Lucifer's sarcasm and frustration towards Amenadiel when they're trying to work out the translation once Amenadiel interprets the passage from the book. Also... I like the speculation Amenadiel makes when he talks about the key possibly being Lucifer's ring, which he's worn since his fall. The ring isn't the key, but I really wish it was revealed what this ring means to Lucifer. Perhaps this show will some time. It must be pretty important to him since he is never seen without it on his finger. And then... it's finally revealed that the key has all along been the pendant worn around Amenadiel's neck, as he's always worn it. This revelation also reveals that if Amenadiel has translated the page from the book correctly, that he is in fact God's favorite son and not Lucifer. Which would make more sense, since Amenadiel is the oldest of all the angels, and because God was able to cast one of his youngest sons out of Heaven and into Hell, then forced him to become a punisher and to be vilified, which is all so wrong. I doubt if Lucifer really were God's favorite son, that he would have been able to do all this to him. I am still shocked that he could do this to his son at all, whether Lucifer is his favorite son or not. Whatever the truth may be... I absolutely love this reveal in the end, their humor, and the simply brothers' interactions with one another. :) And at least Amenadiel won't be able to keep treating Lucifer so harshly for the same reason any longer. Now... I really enjoy the overall case that starts out with Lucifer and Amenadiel keeping a close eye on their mother, who is working out a deal with a criminal for something hidden within a safe deposit box that will hopefully help them to discover what the key to Azrael's blade is and where it might be, that we later learn to be the book. I love Lucifer's skepticism over his mother's ability to get what they need, while Amenadiel believes she'll be fine... their differences of opinions leading to quite a funny argument, while Charlotte proves Lucifer to be right about being unable to trust her with this. Very funny. Unfortunately... after they find the dealer again once he runs off with Lucifer's money, they find him to be dead upon him being killed by someone who is revealed to be the killer right away, which I actually really like. Because normally these characters take the whole episode to investigate who their killer is, while in this episode... they work out how they can convict the killers instead. It's different and I really like it. I also love all of the humor this storyline brings about between Lucifer, Charlotte, and Chloe, upon Charlotte insisting she be a part of their investigation, which makes both Lucifer and Chloe incredibly uncomfortable. Hilarious!!! Their investigation also leads to Charlotte being forced to finally admit to Chloe what her relationship to Lucifer is, as she reveals to Chloe that she is his father's ex, which is technically true. I love how carefully worded both hers and Lucifer's stories about who they really are to one another. And I love that Chloe finally knows the truth and for a certainty that Lucifer never has slept with Charlotte like she's always believed him to have done in spite of him always being honest with her. I just really like this scene between Lucifer and Chloe a lot, because Chloe finally understands a little bit of Lucifer's bizarre relationship with Charlotte, and why he is always is uncomfortable around her whenever they're in public. Now as for the storylines throughout this episode that I don't really care all that much for... While I do certainly understand Maze's anger towards Lucifer because he really can be insensitive and blind to his friends' feelings, and I love how we actually see that she feels real human emotion like Lucifer does too despite her being a demon... I don't like how Maze treats Lucifer throughout most of the episode. I understand her being angry with him for not understanding how he's wronged Linda and her. Especially her being angry with him about not telling her about his plan to return to the Silver City with Amenadiel and their mother. However, I hate that she blames Lucifer one hundred percent for Linda's predicament. He is a lot to blame for her getting in trouble with the ethics board, and his charm that causes all the women to become obsessed with him did somewhat lure her to want to sleep with him for awhile back in season one. However, even he can't really be fully to blame for her being drawn to him. It's a power he can't exactly control. He doesn't always purposely use his charms on women to get what he wants. Lucifer wasn't ever even attracted to her from the beginning. It was really more Linda than him and she didn't even try to resist his charms until episode eight of season one, when she finally realized she didn't want to go against her ethics and moral standards any longer. Also... Linda agreed to help Lucifer escape with God Johnson from the mental hospital of her own freewill. He never forced her to help him. She could have said no, so that's on her as well. Plus... she used her own name, which was silly of her to do. So... I really wish Maze had understood that and offered Lucifer an apology for being so harsh towards him. But as far as Lucifer being blind towards Maze's feelings... Lucifer had no idea just how much Maze's time on Earth and being around their friends have really changed her too, just like it's changed him, Maze fights even harder to hide her feelings and denies them far more than even Lucifer does, and that's saying a lot. It's like Lucifer said... anger is Maze's default setting, so it makes sense he wouldn't know how hurt she really is by his plan. And he didn't not tell her out of malice or to hurt her either. He never wants to hurt anyone he cares about, including Maze and Linda. He simply thought that not telling Maze was best for his plan, knowing that Maze might disrupt and/or ruin the plan should she become angry with him, such as she has become. Lucifer has messed up... yes. But I understand why he has. And he certainly didn't mean to make things worse for Linda with the head of the ethics board, or to hurt Linda either. He cares very deeply for her and we've seen that he does. He can be an idiot at times, as well as thoughtless, callous, and inconsiderate, but he would never intentionally hurt Linda at all. So, I can be more understanding of his mistakes towards her too. Whenever things go wrong for Maze, or the people she actually cares about, she always blames Lucifer without trying to understand his own emotions and feelings too. So she should try to understand him more as well. Nonetheless... I certainly appreciate seeing Lucifer come to understand his mistakes in making things worse for Linda and hurting her as well as Maze. And I love that he apologizes to them for hurting them, and seeing the sadness as well as his sincerity on his face. As for Lucifer and Maze fighting one another... there is some humor to their fight and overall, it is okay. However, I don't really care for seeing Lucifer so beat up upon Maze beating on him, even if Lucifer might have let her get multiple punches in on purpose to allow her to take her aggression and anger out on him, just like he allowed for Amenadiel to do back in season one's episode... Wingman, when Amenadiel gets angry with Lucifer for burning his wings. I would have preferred it if this fight between Lucifer and Maze was written this same way. However, with Lucifer being the Devil, immortal, and so much stronger than than Maze should be, I really hate seeing him so bloodied and beaten. Especially after seeing his eyes turn red when he unleashes his own anger on her. Plus... back in season one's episode, #TeamLucifer, Lucifer tells Chloe that angels can hurt other angels, so seeing Lucifer and Amenadiel bloodied and beaten then makes sense. Clearly demons can hurt him as well. But to see in this episode that a demon can beat him just as badly as the angels can just shouldn't be possible. Lucifer is after all... the King of Hell and ruler of all demons. I suspect that demons don't have the capability to kill him or any angels without a demon blade or celestial blade. So to me... this scene makes no logical sense. Not to me. And while it makes sense that someone from the ethics board would eventually come around to investigate Linda's mistakes at some point... I just feel that this storyline is the weakest part about this episode. It's boring, and there's no real conclusion to it, given that we have no idea what Maze said or did to the guy to make him change his mind about firing Linda. Overall... I do enjoy this episode. I love the overall investigation, as well as Lucifer's, Amenadiel's, and Charlotte's storyline, and I am happy that Maze is so determined to help Linda. So... thank you so much for this reaction once more, and like always... I can't wait for more!! So, until your reaction for this season's finale...

Celia Fox

I agree Liam, that Amenadiel's story has been explored and played out so well this season. I know we focus on Luci a lot but all the core characters revolve around his story and interact not only with Luci's journey but in following their own story arcs for better or worse throughout each season...some drawing to a conclusion, most opening doors that will lead them on continuing explorations and emotional stories into season three. Amenadiel has gone on a tumultuous journey from that angry angel in season one, trying to and believing he was doing what God wanted and desperate for his father's approval, to growing and changing and beginning to understand empathy and showing understanding in his reactions to Luci and with humans. He has changed so much and his journey continues throughout season three- it's quite a story arc. As for Maze, you are right to notice how difficult things are for her sometimes, how relationships give her pleasure but also cause her to question her own self-worth sometimes but it has been lovely this season to see her character change and develop and believe me her continued story arc will give you much to talk about in season three and beyond. Keep up the good work with your reactions. I look forward to them everytime.