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Angel 1x21 "Blind Date" Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2020-05-27 01:09:59
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2023-09-10 08:25:08
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FernWithy

Thank you for pointing out that Angel is being a little unfair. I totally get *why*--he's just had his work undermined and he's bitter--but for God's sake, if he'd been half as understanding with Lindsey as he was with Faith, he might have had a good team member instead of a potential enemy at the end. Too many fans go right along with him, as if Lindsey's poverty was a "poor me" speech. (I'm doing an essay on this at the moment, so it's on my mind... why in the name of God is Lindsey's story dismissed out of hand? Just because Angel dismisses it? I'm baffled by it.)

Ryan Moore

FYI, the actress playing Vanessa Brewer is Faith's stunt double. (And Cordelia's, for that matter.)

Liz Siron

I’m so excited to see this one when I get home from work tonight. This was the episode that made me like Lindsay, or at least appreciate where he’s coming from. Coming from a poverty line poor family myself, his actions made perfect sense to me. Granted I chose to be a nurse instead of an evil lawyer, but I get it.

Rachael
>>37596755

For me, Lindsey’s “poor me” speech doesn’t sway me for several reasons: 1. He begins it on the offense and gets that one wrong. He claims that Angel has never known anything resembling true poverty when we know that is not true. We know that Whistler found Angel barely surviving on rats in alleys for who knows how long. Regardless, an extremely impoverished childhood does not justify years of evil as an adult. 2. Lindsey’s anger regarding his impoverished background is focused on his anger that his father supposedly humiliated himself and his family by… what, trying to be dignified and not getting violent, which would have accomplished what exactly? The way Lindsey mocked his father was a bit of a turnoff for me. And I know that this heavily involves issues of masculinity, but admittedly I’m not interested in that. 3. Lindsey’s motivation is power and privilege. While the need for power and security can certainly be sympathetic to oppressed and marginalized people, Lindsey is a cis-het white male attorney. He is a member of the most privileged tier in our society and could easily make so many better choices. Instead, he signed up with Evil, Inc. and has engaged in years of evil acts *for which he expresses zero regret*. And I think that’s what gets me the most—is the lack of remorse. So Lindsey has a line that he won’t cross: killing children—that’s an extremely low bar. Ultimately, Lindsey does not want to struggle, as evidenced by his showing up at W&H and calling Holland by his first name. Holland may expertly have played Lindsey like a fiddle with daddy issues, but Lindsey knew that Holland has a soft spot for him, and I think that’s why Lindsey took the chance of showing back up at W&H instead of getting out of Dodge posthaste.

liamcatterson
>>37598539

Oh yeah. I am sure if someone offered him to profession as a well paid nurse rather than evil lawyer that helps demons, he'd still take it :D

Liz Siron
>>37598539

Ha. Lindsay would be a terrible nurse, though he'd fit right in in management. But what I'm saying is I can completely see how he got to where he is. I would imagine that much like myself he decided pretty young that he was NOT going to live his life like this and started planning how to get out. He picked something he thought he would be good at that paid well, maybe he was good at debate or arguing his way out of trouble so he figured lawyer was a good choice. He probably even had good intentions of helping people to begin with, I doubt he set out to work for an evil firm. He worked his ass off in school to get good grades, applied for every scholarship he could, got into college (which I'm sure was made easier by the fact that he is a white man as Rachel pointed out in her comments) and worked hard there too. He was recruited by Holland Manners as he said in the episode because Holland recognized that need to succeed and how easy it would be to manipulate him. I will never claim that Lindsay is a good person. He is morally grey at best, but has absolutely been manipulated to the evil side because of his drive to be successful, powerful and rich. People who grow up that poor will do almost anything to avoid going back to that especially once you get a real taste of how much easier life is when you have money. And yeah, I'm a nurse and I'm helping people on a very basic level, but to be completely honest, I'm also a part of one of the biggest scams in america: our healthcare system. My job and my life is not without big ethical issues and being faced with some pretty nasty choices. Being forced to do things that I personally don't agree with because I have to in my job. I mean, I was once told that I could not tell a patient my personal opinion on her condition and course of treatment or I would be fired on the spot (because I truly believed that having the surgery our doctors were recommending would drastically reduce the patient's quality of life and put her even further into debt when she had not much longer to live as it was). I've probably spent way too long thinking about Lindsay and his story, but it was believable and relatable to me.