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California For-Never ft. Shanti Singh (Patreon)

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2023-09-21 10:25:09
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What happens when Venture Capitalists - a bunch of guys whose entire job is throwing money into companies they don't understand and expect to fail try and build a new city from scratch? What happens when those Venture Capitalists are building that city in order to win an online argument about zoning and land use? The answer (AI renderings, money spent, nothing built, no water issues planned for or considered) may not shock you! Bay Area tenant organiser Shanti Singh rejoins Riley, Hussein, and Alice, to explore what the hell is going on in Solano County.


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Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

Comments

Josep C.

The chad "old money" way : build a new city to escape living among the poors (Palo Alto). The soyjack "VC" way : not even building it, it's a bunch of 3d renders. Also who needs water and sewage issues lol

Fellow Worker

Alternative ep title: “California Uber Alice”

Fingerless

i guess if you engage in enough realty arbitrage you start thinking land is fungible

Mark Patsy

American Neom is Phoenix

shadowcb

I can't believe you've banished the ghost child to the lagoon

Sam Price

Russel Brand was in St Trinian's with Tallulah Riley (Musk's double-ex-wife), perhaps they're friends and Tallulah asked Musk to come to his defence?

Nemo

Oh, it's Cypress Creek from The Simpsons!

Norma Joe

I’m from San Francisco. Interesting to hear a local story. I haven’t heard anything about this until now.

brodie

I keep thinking Riley is going to say California raisins every time he says California forever

Overzealous Euthanasiast

Wait how bad are the libel laws here if you can't even name the person who is publicly speaking out about their thoughts when trying to describe them publicly speaking out about their thoughts? I don't see where the libel is occurring in this chain of communication.

Jane Ditchfield

So Hussain thinks it's called "mind journey" huh?

Mulloy

"I was really good at broodwar in the 90s"

The MILF Formerly Known as Tzippi

I'm one of those diseased Americans who has seen Russell Brand's stand up and I made the mistake of reading his autobiography so I was just like "Oh. Gee golly whiz. However could we have known, no question mark at the end of that sentence." I figured his, shall we say, unhealthy relationship with sex was a matter of public record. Like, being a sex pest if not a known offender was the thing people knew about him.

The MILF Formerly Known as Tzippi

Oh! You want to shut down this idiotic tryhard Neom competitor even faster? Point out to the investors that Travis AFB is the site of a military prison.

Jacob Smith

Oooh man. As a lifelong Solano resident I’ve been waiting for TF to pick this up. Looking forward to my life getting a lot weirder

Andrew Davis

With the not insubstantial caveat that nothing there is as ordered as a line, the U.S. already has NEOM. It's Las Vegas.

oranjest1

its the non sound-insulated one

Christian Bloch

@51 min - When your architecture renderings are drawn by Hieronymus Bosch! :) There's a sweet irony how close the "end of human art" comes to resembling biblical hell pics with bizarro body horror.

Shivvy
>>118026977

iirc she’s very pilled on some of the same “issues”

Shivvy

weird timing as I only just this week decided to dig into Steve Jobs’ widow and decide she’s a bad actor for real (yea very behind on this one).

Shivvy

For any tree nerds across the pond we have a native breed of cypress on the coast - per their wiki: Hesperocyparis macrocarpa also known as Cupressus macrocarpa, or the Monterey cypress is a coniferous tree, and is one of several species of cypress trees endemic to California. The Monterey cypress is found naturally only on the Central Coast of California.

SylvieJ

okay who lured Riley with a cask of amontillado?

etienne
>>118051352

I can feel you man one of the first live show I've ever seen at a really young teen age is Diedonné the edgelord french comic who later became extremely antisemitic. some times you're just not sentient enough

Fingerless
>>118034001

in Commonwealth countries, libel/slander/defamation is "reverse onus". in the US, for example, the burden of proof is on the plaintiff to prove that what the defendant said was both untrue and materially harmful. in the uk, however, once grounds for defamation is established, the burden of proof is on the defendant to prove their statement was either true or not materially harmful. as such, it's significantly difficult to win a defo case as a defendant. Given you need a significant amount of money to launch a defamation suit to begin with, it basically creates an asymmetry where rich people can silence critics at ease, but the gutter press are insulated from libelling common people who can't afford to mount a case.

Fingerless
>>118064608

i do slightly appreciate the ability of ai art to create impressionist comedy/horror. faves of mine are "muscleman competition at the jfk assassination" where a bunch of blurry himbos are rushing around the grassy knoll, and the biden shout

Overzealous Euthanasiast
>>118034001

Thanks for the helpful explanation, much appreciated 🙏I had a sinking gut suspicion there was some double-standard class warfare fuckery involved somehow there, but that's the UK all round I spose, lol.

Patrick Lopez

I was born in Vallejo CA, heart of Solano County!

John Ingles

I don't have any research to back this up, but I think that the draw or making a new city to house tech workers instead of just letting them work remotely is perhaps in due to pressure from the city to add to the tax base of the state. Without that tax money, which they might be dependent on now, there might be budget concerns for the state government. And for big companies, there are a lot of incentives they get for doing what the government wants (i.e. tax breaks etc).

Alistair SM J

We miss you (and your quality audio work), Nate!

Benjamin Young

California for Ever puts me in mind of Dead Kennedy’s album California Über Alles.

Josh L
>>118062439

Plenty of lines get made in Las Vegas I reckon…