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The murder of Seth Rich in Washington DC sparked a slew of conspiracy theories tying the tragedy to the DNC, Wikileaks, and the 2016 election. But behind the scenes, a grieving family was left bereft of answers and vulnerable to bad actors. Andy Kroll, a reporter for Pro Publica, joins us to discuss his latest book on the matter.

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brodie

God this is such a gross story. Like the amount of times some worm comes to this grieving family to take advantage of them over and over is so fucked up. It's honestly astounding that the family was willing to talk to anyone about this ever.

Anonymous

Hearing Andy Kroll speak about Seth Rich was somehow very touching, almost like listening to a eulogy. It was good to hear about the person beyond the memes and conspiracy theories. Thank you.

Treppy

i would bet my life that the clinton’s have had at least one person killed. the entire list is obviously bunk. but one or two would not shock me. i don’t think this was the case with seth though and i feel bad for his family.

Anonymous

I'm sorry, but do you realize that you have accused actual human beings of murder without any evidence? Vague insinuations, such as this, are how misinformation originates. Somebody will read this and say, "Oh, the Clinton's definitely did it because they are so shady." We now see in our current political culture how not 'LOL' this is. Honestly, I hope that you are correct, as you've bet your life. All being said, I agree that this is a sad story. :(

Treppy

OK the LOL was in poor taste. But it’s also my life, I can wager it as I choose. I’m just expressing an opinion and I can clearly be wrong. I’m sorry but it’s just not that much of a stretch when you have someone like Bill Clinton palling around with a prolific pedophile for decades that there are some dirt on them that would be worth killing to cover up. when we have an ex president that is almost certainly going around fucking children all over the world I just can’t see murder being a line they wouldn’t cross. I understand your sentiment and I get it but I’m in the comment section of leftist podcast not going on Sean Hannity and speaking to millions of people.

Treppy

Also I don’t consider pedophiles human beings referring to bill.

Anonymous

Thank you for providing some much needed empathy on this overwhelmingly toxic comment section.

Genevieve R

Boys I think you may need to remove some patrons unfortunately

Mr. Lobotomy

Midwest tour with stop in Detroit?

Rhiannon Frater

This is the problem with people depending on their "feeling" and "instincts" instead of actual facts. They create narratives that they fully believe in despite their destructiveness. I feel so bad for Seth's family. No one deserves to go through such turmoil after the loss of a loved one.

Anonymous

It’s only on the free episodes that the trolls and thin crusts begin to appear.

Tivans

Thanks for filling the gaps in my knowledge - was living outside of the states when this was going on - really learned a lot.

Blake

My heart says that Clinton did it, my brain says she didn't.

skullfenestrated

I'm ashamed for not thinking about this critically when it happened. Obviously I didn't believe the Clinton lie and all that, but I allowed the event to just pass by and my brain accepted that there was something screwy happening.

Dinosaur

What the fuck kind of fash shit is this? Mommy mommy! The kids on the internet don't agree with me, make them go away! And change my diaper too!

Dinosaur

I hate when people defend the Clintons simply because Republicans don't like them. Bill is a rapist and very likely a pedophile, and Hillary personally oversaw the wholesale murder of thousands of innocents in the Middle East. Using clandestine means to silence opponents is ABSOLUTELY NOT out of the question. TO BE CLEAR: I do not think Rich was murdered by the Clintons.

Dinosaur

Julian, thanks for grounding this pod as usual at the end. Love you bunches mon frere.

Anonymous

Until a couple days ago, I didn’t realize that people who aren’t actually Patreon supporters can comment on the free episodes. The comments make a lot more sense now.

Anonymous

I'm so glad that family was able to file a lawsuit and get some compensation for these lies and conspiracy theories. I've often wondered why more people do not bring lawsuits against others on social media for slander and defamation of character. If said people have posted anonymously, we should be able to bring lawsuits against the social media company/outlet for being the conduit of, co- conspirator of these claims and allowing the distribution of these slanderous theories and blatant lies, then maybe more people would think before they just get online to post and attack people. This has and can lead to real life violence, it's scary to think that you can literally go online slander and lie about someone, and basically ruin their entire life (possibly get them beaten up or killed) and somehow it's still legal. We obviously are going to need to (re)write a lot of laws regarding social media and the influences that they have on our society as a whole, especially on our democracy.