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Supernatural - 6x22 "The Man Who Knew Too Much" Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2021-05-14 07:45:16
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2022-07

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Hasnaa

This episode is rough for cas fans, i absolutely hate it, it tried to do so much but failed at most of it, sam's mind stuff cramped with cas's stuff just don't work for me, i hate how they had cas kill balthazar & break sam's wall even if temporarily, if only ben edlund wrote all the episodes, i am not a huge fan of kripke, i feel like he sees cas more as a plot device than his own character unlike edlund, that being said, cas gets a lot of hate for this season just like sam does for season 4 if not more, i just think everyone of our heros has to have their going to the dark side for a good cause season 😂

rose mnor

(I really don't understand how my comments can disappear so many times. Right now it disappears because I edited another point in. Sorry to those that see this comment multiple times.) So, that happened. This finale is not a favorite of mine. These are my long-ass thoughts and feelings on this episode (I apologize in advance) and the season as a whole (not talking about the quality of individual prior episodes). Here we go. - S1 to S5 has established that Dean is the show’s pov character. Which to me means the “ethical positioning” of the show we get from Dean. Or in short, if Dean says it is wrong then that action thingy is wrong. If we are a Dean fan then watching the show is smooth sailing for us, but if not, whoa boy. You can just imagine the discourse in fan forums. So, having Soulless Sam gaslighting Dean for the first half of the season and then Cas making decisions without the pov character’s prior knowledge in the second half, is very exhausting. Not a fan of Sera Gamble’s directions on this. - In every season finale the main protagonists, Sam and Dean, are the ones in action, steering the story to a wrap or pushing it to the cliffhanger. This time, Dean and by association Bobby, is just a spectator. He was at Sam's bedside wringing his hands, and he was watching the main action unfold up on the top of warehouse stairs, and then was flung to the wall. That’s it. And he was one of the main characters. Go figure. - It was the writers’ decision to make it a character trait that Cas can’t lie worth crap and acted shiftily (to the audience) when lying. In my opinion, Cas is being honest when he repeatedly said to Dean and Sam that he doesn't know who pull Sam from the cage. This shows later that Cas is actually a pro at lying, and this is to me, deliberately assassinates the character here. We were shown Cas being honest from point A and then do a 180 in the next, yeah, hoodwinking the audience here, not a good twist and a fan here. My opinion is if it were foreshadowed that Cas is the one that saved Sam, or if there are any indications that this is the direction they are gonna take, will be more impactful than deliberately lying to us and getting blindsided. Even Misha himself said at that time of shooting that particular scenes, he also didn’t know that Cas is the one. I seem to remember that because of this, Misha acted that Cas honestly didn’t know about it, if he had known, the acting choices that he might have taken might be different. - Along the way when it was revealed in the writers’ room the direction they were going, Ben Edlund got the 20th episode. So he then decided that episode 20 is going to be a Cas-centric episode, where he revealed the story, the full scope of what Cas had been hiding all season long. All of that would’ve come out one way or another. Edlund merely chose HOW it was all revealed. He makes all the disparate plot crumbs come together. Some of Ben’s quotes regarding Cas in 6.20: ".... When it’s time for me to pitch a story or for us to start working on the story I’m going to write, I might say the word “Castiel” four times more than other people say it. That just lends itself to where we end up.” "Castiel is one of my favorite characters, [but] he has a lot of explaining to do, because I have a love for that character—and he has been doing fishy things, so if I am a viewer I want to know his side of the story, because I want to maintain my love for him. So [the episode] moves in that direction.” “Once I understood where we're in the storyline, I pitched a Cas episode, because we love him and we want to know his story.” Revealing that information by showing us the long string of events and choices Cas had made going back to the events of 5.22, showing us what he was facing in Heaven and the conflict with Raphael, his desperation to not be the reason Dean broke his dying wish to Sam to get out of hunting. This shows how in LOVE Edlund is with the character Castiel. This starts to disappear in 6x21, but we still see glimpses that Cas cares and that he is still trying to help when he saves Dean from the demons and when he later heals Lisa and makes her and Ben forget Dean because Dean asks him to. But what Edlund told is completely gone in 6x22 thanks to Kripke, who turns Cas into someone with a thirst for power that makes you think that he lost his mind, even before the soul power corruption. Edlund wrote Cas as an antagonist you could understand and sympathize with, while Kripke wrote Cas as someone crazy for power for shock value and a cliffhanger, an unredeemable character. Edited to add another point: - In 6.21 Ellie, a creature who came from purgatory, slaughtered a group of dark magic enthusiasts, “killed” a housekeeper (but luckily not her son), possessed her, was framed as a sympathetic character in 6.22. Why? Because Bobby slept with and has romantic feelings for her, and wanted to save her from the angel Castiel. Meanwhile, Cas wanted to save the main protagonists and the world from a power-hungry archangel who wanted to reboot Apocalypse 2.0, Cas who lied and working with the SAME character that said protagonists worked with in the prior season to avoid Apocalypse 1.0, Cas who preferred to keep one of the main protagonists from the hunting life to continue instead living his apple pie and picket fence life with his new family, Cas whose actions are actually wanting to bring peace to the said object of his affection that he professed he has a bond with, was framed as the villain. The inconsistencies, I can’t even with this episode. Edited to add another another point: This season made Sam and Dean looked like as*h**es. I already ranted in an earlier episode, on how Dean calls Cas only when he is needed. But I give points to the writers as they already lampshaded this via Rachel. Conclusion: So, not a fan of Season 6 as a whole. But this season is the tip of the iceberg, which Season 7 completely obliterated my joy of this show out of the water.