"Supernatural - 5x13 "The Song Remains the Same" Rewatch" by Shelley from Patreon

So I don't know whether you will see this message Shelley, but, for the following episodes, 5.14 My Bloody Valentine 5.15 Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid 5.16 Dark Side of the Moon the original sequence was supposed to be as follows (according to the script episode numbers) 5.14 Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid 5.15 My Bloody Valentine (sorry Superwiki doesn't have this script but the episode number is by an educated guess) 5.16 Dark Side of the Moon At the end of My Bloody Valentine, Dean is in a despairing situation (DEAN helplessly looking up: Please... I can't... I need some help. Please? ...) when confronted by Sam's need to detox again after consuming demons' blood. In the whole of that episode, Dean felt "empty" in an unwinnable situation, just going through with the motion, which was exacerbated by the presence of Famine. Given with this emotional continuity, we will then go into Dark Side of the Moon, whereby he is faced with Sam's heaven - his happy memories - which doesn't include Dean, and TFW eventually finds out that God doesn't care about the impending apocolyspe. We then proceed with 99 Problems, the episode that finally pushed Dean into saying "yes" to Michael in Point of No Return. My point is that the Dead Man Don't Wear Plaid - a zombie episode - its placement in the middle of these 3 episodes and its vibe, is out of place in maintaining Dean's emotional continuity throughout his eventual "saying yes to Michael" arc. Dead Man doesn't deal with any emotional continuity, by either Dean or Sam. So my suggestion is - maybe you might want to do your rewatch with the sequence that was originally intended, rather than the sequence when it originally aired if you wish. Having said that, it is not that big a deal if you don't want to, just saying. The network aired My Bloody Valentine to coincide with Valentine's Day, whose air date was Feb 11, 2010.

So I don't know whether you will see this message Shelley, but, for the following episodes, 5.14 My Bloody Valentine 5.15 Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid 5.16 Dark Side of the Moon the original sequence was supposed to be as follows (according to the script episode numbers) 5.14 Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid 5.15 My Bloody Valentine (sorry Superwiki doesn't have this script but the episode number can be gleaned by guesswork) 5.16 Dark Side of the Moon At the end of My Bloody Valentine, Dean is in a despairing situation (DEAN helplessly looking up: Please... I can't... I need some help. Please? ...) when confronted by Sam's need to detox again after consuming demons' blood. In the whole of that episode, Dean felt "empty" in an unwinnable situation, just going through with the motion, which was exacerbated by the presence of Famine. Given with this emotional continuity, we will then go into Dark Side of the Moon, whereby he is upset when faced with Sam's heaven - his happy memories - which doesn't include Dean (basically this episode addresses their psyches front and center) ... and TFW eventually finds out that God doesn't care about the impending apocalypse. We then proceed with 99 Problems, the episode that finally pushed Dean into saying "yes" to Michael in Point of No Return. My point is that the Dead Man Don't Wear Plaid - a zombie episode - its placement in the middle of these 3 episodes and its vibe, is jarringly out of place in maintaining Dean's emotional continuity throughout his eventual "saying yes to Michael" arc, imo. Dead Man doesn't deal with their emotional continuity, by either Dean or Sam. So my suggestion is - maybe you might want to do your rewatch with the sequence that was originally intended, rather than the sequence when it originally aired if you wish. Having said that, it is not that big a deal if you don't want to, just saying. The network aired My Bloody Valentine to coincide with Valentine's Day/week, whose air date was Feb 11, 2010. link source for: 5.15 Dead Man Don't Wear Plaid (originally as episode #5.14) https://drive.google.com/file/d/16nVVqJirYJlUcbHMQ9qyucHffV7FjGyz/view

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Kyra Sun

>>146297762

That’s very interesting I did not know that!

Vel

Shelley - don't forget that Dean and Sam were initially meant to jump into the cage together by choice with Michael and Lucifer at the end of Swan Song. But because the show was renewed for S6, they had to create a different ending that still fit the season's plot. I don't think Dean was sidelined though. He was there to support Sam, and the dialog plus Jensen's delivery in a couple of those scenes still break me every time I watch it (I won't spoil it here). In doing so, Sam was able to overpower Lucifer long enough to defeat him. It was a huge turning point for the growth of Dean and Sam individually because they were using their free will to go separate ways. So when they were brought back together, it wasn't because of fate or destiny. It was their own choice to do so. ETA: I am a S5 and S3 girl myself so I get you. S2 and S4 have a tighter plot but the episodes in 3 and 5 are much better and more interesting to me because of the content. Also I am Sam leaning, so that probably has something to do with it.

Elisia

>>146325554

i completely agree. Dean not saying yes to Michael didnt take anything away from the finale for me, or having Adam as Michael. It made it better. That final fight was always for Sam. The culmination of his hero’s journey, and the redemption he deserves. But Dean’s journey was to get to a point where he trusted Sam enough to let him go. To support his brother, and fight with him, not against him. Dean got his redemption from his part in season 4 by saying no to Michael, and letting Sam do what he had to, while also making sure he wasnt alone

BexFangirl

On personal rewatch I'd skip Swapped Meat I think.

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