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Bonus 17 - The Resurrected (Patreon)

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2019-09-28 22:35:46
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2020-02-17 15:17:33
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2021-07
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Tune in as we recap and review an old favorite: The Resurrected, starring Chris Sarandon and directed by Dan O'Bannon!

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Anonymous

Finally, I get to hear you cowards discuss this film! Oh, if you nabbed a Blu Ray player Chad, I highly recommend checking out the Director's Cut of Little Shop of Horrors at some point. Aside from having a smorgasborg of amazing practical effects not in the theatrical release, the original ending really makes the theming ascend. Puts the film in my top ten, even. Just a recommendation.

Anonymous
>>27316562

Following the above, you mention The Resurrected had a budget of $5 Million, which is how much money was spent on the cut Little Shop ending. It was a *fifth* of the film's whole budget, and it got tossed.

Anonymous

I feel reasonably certain that a Japanese remake could be done. I'll keep the kotatsu warm for you, Chad.

Anonymous

Last night I watched Deathline with some friends, so your affection for cheesy but scary was very familiar. It does feature subterranean cannibals so slightly Lovecraftian at a push if you fancied another film to review. I think you would enjoy the grossness and imaging what would have happned if, as originally planned, Marlon Brando had played the cannicbal.

Anonymous

It might be my artist’s bias, but the needlessly complex ‘flesh calls to flesh’ exposition seems like a way to cram in a ‘cool effects finale’, based entirely on visual, rather than dramatic pay-off. I’d probably have gone with the detective showing up, just in time to see the accidentally resurrected wizard performing some hideous monster transformation on Curwen before making his getaway. If you’re desperate, make the wizard a monster too.

Anonymous

Oh and I’ll third the suggestion that you watch the planned original ending to Little Shop of Horrors (it’s still in place in the stage play)

Anonymous

I like Chad's idea of making the protagonist Charles' wife. Would HPL be rolling in his grave though! A female protagonist, with agency no less! *gasp* Maybe he would feel better if you revealed at the very end that one of her ancestors... was a person of color! I did like the Resurrected. I too remember first seeing it on VHS back in the 90s. I loved it then, bad acting and all. My favorite scene is also the exploration of the pits. The same as with the novella (or should I call it the short story? The literature version?). I think the story would be best done not as a movie, but rather as a limited tv series on a steaming service like Amazon or Hulu. I won't bother with Netflix, because they are going to need resurrecting soon, given how they love throwing money away. With 6 or 7 hours to play with, you could make an actual faithful adaptation, with all the past stuff and all the modern events.

Anonymous

Was not aware of this movie, definitely on the list now if I can get my hands on a copy! Has anyone else listened to the BBC4 radio play version of The case of Charles Dexter Ward? Their take is to portray it as a “Serial” esque investigative podcast. It’s on Spotify currently, and I must say I did enjoy it. But I think that’s only because I’m always down for well produced lovecraftian content.

Anonymous

R.I.P LONNIE!

Anonymous

Lonnie! This character did all of the detecting, knew where to get military grade explosives, quit smoking, and was everybody's pal. His horror movie sin was starting smoking with a lap full of plastic explosives and not telling anyone that he heard an ominous shuffling. He was then killed off by a shuffling thing and no one really reacted much. Here's to Lonnie. Also this movie is awesome and I only watched it for the first time for this cast. Sarrandon was by far the best. Loved the coverage as usual, and Chad keep working on the script I think you got something there.

Anonymous
>>27352326

Also highly recommend BBC4's Charles Dexter Ward. I've listened twice already, excellent production with excellent sound effects. For someone who spent some time living in trailer parks, I now have fantasy horror reasons to never want to do so again, besides the real horror ones.

Andrew M. Reichart

As someone who has studied the craft of screenwriting a bit (and who has written a few truly egregious feature spec scripts), I really appreciated Chad's critiques. Making the protagonist Ward's wife solves both the investigator's investment in the story & gives us a basis to truly get to know Ward, bingo. And how about the "investigator" who does nothing especially investigatory. Etc. Spot on, without even having to make your own adaptation, lol. Throwin' these rocks = legit screenwriting education imho.

Rick Hound

I don't completely agree with Well's rule as many great stories use more than one magical point and are great (demon cycle and necroscope) but I also agree that some reality needs to be anchored to the story.

Anonymous

Apparently there's a sort-of director's cut on the Blu-Ray, so Chad can see if anything is cleared up thereby. Does anyone know what city stands in for Providence in the aerial? Providence doesn't have that many skyscrapers, unless they were razed between 1991 and 1997 when I moved here.

Anonymous
>>27360543

The tabletop RPG Shadowrun breaks Well's Law by having both magic and cyberpunk, and it is one of the best games I have ever played. Like you said, in spite of a double dose of wildness, it is firmly rooted in cynical reality.

Anonymous

I've previously held that The Resurrected is the best film directly based on one of Lovecraft's stories, but Chad's points cast doubt on that sentiment. I think I mostly liked it for the big creature set pieces. For generally Lovecraftian/weird films, I have two recommendations. The first is the original cut of "The Equinox... A Journey Into the Supernatural" (1967) which is where legendary special effects guru Dennis Muren got his start — probably what warranted a Criterion Collection release. It also features Fritz Leiber whom you've covered on the show. The second is "Night of the Seagulls" (1975) by Amando de Ossorio, the fourth and final film of his Blind Dead series, which draws pretty explicit inspiration from Lovecraft's works.

Anonymous

Regarding Well's Law, all you have to do is make the story element large enough. There is magic, There was magic, and now it's coming back--then the problem is getting writers that write realistic interactions.

Anonymous

Chris Sarandon nibbles the scenery a bit, but overall, it's the acting that makes the movie intriguing. The scene at the end where he's found out and lets his 16th Century freak flag fly is memorable, I have absolutely no memory of any bone calling to bone nonsense.

Anonymous

Thanks to you guys I bought the blu-ray of the movie and just got it in the mail today. I am about a half hour into it. The video quality is good, surprising for a movie that old. But I have not seen any special effects yet. I love Chris Sarandon in this. Ever since the first time I saw this movie, I have always pictured him in my head every time I read The Case of Charles Dexter Ward. An interesting thing I just noted. When March first sees a picture of Charles, he mentions that he has nice teeth. I recall that when we later meet Curwen, he has some nasty gibs. So that was a little clue right there, which I never noticed before.

Anonymous
>>27417629

I thought the whole "flesh calling to flesh" thing was kind of silly and unnecessary too. But now that I just watched the movie again I noted that when they were down in Curwen's Catacombs (I guess tunnels, since you need bodies for it to be a catacomb right? Then again... catacombs). Anyway, when March tries to test out the resurrection formula he puts some ashes/saltes from a dead person on some fresh meat, then adds the reagent. The ashes grow up into the liveliest awfulness of a hand-thing. What I realized is that it was approximately the same volume of flesh as the fresh meat they had used in addition to the original saltes. Now that I think about it, I believe what is going on here is that if you want to resurrect a 180 pound person, you need the equivalent amount of fresh meat. You can't do it out of just one pound of saltes. So you need more raw materials. I can see the logic in that. Given that, each resurrecte has been called up not just with their own saltes, but also with a bunch of other meat. If a source of that extra beef if also reanimated, it calls all of its flesh back to it (if it is available). So... ok. I admit that it is a stretch. But I think it works. Granted, I don't think you really need it for this story, given that HPL's original literature version provides us with a spell for laying as well as the one for calling up. March could have just as easily read the spell for laying in the catacombs as Willet does in the story, and figured out what it did. He might have even used it to lay some of the liveliest awfulness creatures in the oubliettes. Okay, you would have to explain why March knows Latin. I think the spells were in Latin, weren't they? But if you say he went to Law school before becoming a Private Dick, or maybe was a lawyer who had been disbarred, there you go. Or if you really want to be daring, we say that Charles' wife Claire knows Latin, and she learns the spell, and uses it to save March and Lonnie in the catacombs, and then puts Curwen down at the end.

Anonymous
>>27427602

"Claire will be pleased. Especially when I get my teeth fixed."

Anonymous

Every year I get together with a group of friends for a Halloween Horror Movie Night. This sounded like a good option, as we try to find things most of us have never seen, but I could not find it streaming or in the few independent movie rental stores in my area. So I just bought the Blu-ray of this as my entry. No pressure guys, but it's 100% on your recommendation. Now to decide if I want to watch it ahead of time or just wait till the movie night...

Anonymous

T-Shirts when?

Anonymous

Say what you like about the "flesh calling to flesh" thing, it's still better than the ending of the Vincent Price/Roger Corman version, The Haunted Palace. That movie has its moments, especially Price's dual performance, but it can't muster a properly ruthless finale.

Anonymous

Don't want to come across as a wise guy but what happened to Topics Show 16.

Anonymous

Richard Band is an underrated composer. I love the creepy chant from his score for Troll.

witchhousemedia
>>27998549

The live show in Providence was technically Topics Show 16, but I didn't bother to label it as such because it was just too much text:)

Anonymous

The cityscape which "The Resurrected" labels as Providence is in reality Hartford, Connecticut. The Hartford YMCA building and Bushnell Park across the street take center stage as we fly toward State House Square.