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SOO MANY THOUGHTS! 

THE DISCOGRAPHY is near enough flawless which made this such a joy to experience HOW FUCKING EVER. 

Their stage presence was very disappointing, I actually googled if this is a common issue and come to find a lot of fans find their stage presence lacking and imo i think Irene as the leader and oldest member by decent margins plays a big role in that. I LOVE her aloofness but I think it's also influenced the other members to not be as bold but it doesn't suit them as much as it does her but I don't see them wanting to break out of that as she's very much their unnie and her seniority is felt, you can see this by how often she's in the center when most groups usually rotate that often even with set center positions. The same thing could've have happened with SNSD I believe but Taeyeon happily took the back seat and the other members were closer in age with dominant personalities that I believe they could bully her into doing more LOL and Jess being Taeyeon's age and being more dominant provided a good balance for the group chemistry. If Seulgi was 2 years older the same may have happened here. 

Wendy once warmed up was a joy to watch. Yeri and Joy looked like they didn't want to be there for most of it which was thankfully amusing cos I love their music. They could've been having the time of their lives but it doesn't read as a first time viewer.  

Seulgi is obviously the strongest performer and tries her best to keep the energy for everyone else however there's a sense of holding back even on her part and she actually comes across as timid at times even though she's a very talented and clean dancer, it's odd. I'd love to see her showcase a bad/possessed girl persona at times because I know she can do it. Like I can honestly say there wasn't a standout moment where as a main dancer I was like I NEED TO REWATCH THAT COS SEULGI ATE!!! I feel similarly with Hyoyeon. I'd find Yoona, Yuri and Sooyoung catching my eye more with that "this is my STAGE and I'm going to KILL IT" presence even though Hyo is the strongest dancer and I feel like not being encouraged by your company/gen public to be like that plays a big part. 

Overall I'd give them MAJOR credit for dancing THROUGHOUT and with a lot of live vocal moments it requires a lot of stamina. If they'd had more set pieces and acting moments I think it would've taken the stress away from doing ALL that choreo which sometimes starts to feel robotic since it doesn't have much variations from the original. 

Hope you enjoy and see where I'm coming from, I'm glad I found new songs too! 

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Hibz

🏃🏽‍♀️💨 and im back to being seated. We're blessed with this much content lmao. Patreon notifications is doing wonders lately, i feel like im first in line every time haha. I havent watched this concert yet so perfect timing. Just from reading your comment, you've made a lot of good points. I've only watched maybe 1 concert from rv and yep the stage presence has always been a factor to why i haven't looped their concerts like the way i do with snsd. I definitely agree with your point about Seulgi, she can be timid and she seems to hold back - maybe she's reading the energy from the rest of the team and keeping her's at the same level to even them out? idk. My eyes tend to gravitate to seulgi and wendy when rv perform so i see your point about the rest of the members. One thing about rv is that regardless, their discography will back them up. It is STACKED.

Koko3op

Hahaha yess I'm really enjoying pushing out the content! Perfect timing indeed. I think Seulgi is definitely trying to balance out the team for sure. Thank God their music is so SOLID! Enjoy!

Alice

Funny that they did all the things you mentioned in La Rouge concert. It will be the best concert if there was no Covid. So sad that it has to stop after only 3 days concert in Seoul. There was no Beyond live at that time. The set lists, the stage setting, the outfits, everything is perfect.

luviemoo

just from reading i get what you mean i think in this particular case it was amplified because they (especially joy) were having quite alot of mic/in ear issues at the start which probably impacted the mood of the rest of the performance. but watching wendy with her energy and vocals throughout the whole thing definitely makes it worth watching for me haha

Hibz

After watching this, i'm interested to see your thoughts on an f(x) concert - at your own time. I wonder if you would see similarities with rv or soshi. Unfortunately, they only have 1 tour and in a small venue (sm really hated them fr). I do remember they would switch up and remix a lot of songs on the tour because they were trying to fit all their disc into 1 concert since it was their first concert after 7yrs post debut.

Koko3op

Oooo maybe but I don’t love their songs the way I do SNSD and RV tho

Tim Nguyen

you can definitely tell Wendy just loves being on stage

luviemoo

Oh and of course a big point is that now joy has pulled out of the rest of the tour because she’s sick, Yeri now has a cold and Wendy just got diagnosed with covid so you could say they haven’t been doing so well physically lmao ALSO they have been extremely busy like yeri and joy with their dramas and especially wendy not having even one day off in months, only getting to practice the choreography at night without the others because she’s recording throughout the day even just after flights and also now preparing for her next solo 🙃.

Taengkomo 309

You should try the restream version, they removed the loud backtrack from beyond live so you can here them more. They always put loud backtrack during beyond live, idk if they usually remove the AR during restream or it just one time thing because wendy complained about it.

Mint

Haven't watched yet but could your concerns also be due to "Beyond Live"? I've always found I never quite enjoyed videos with that name. Something about the presentation (sound, cameras, etc) bugs me, and I'm not quite technical enough to tell why

Koko3op

Yesss I mentioned this too. Beyond Live have definitely gone downhill since the SuperM days which was probably their best. Shinee's was great too.

j

Totally get where you’re coming from, I love that you’re honest even though you have made it clear that you do love Irene 🫶🏾 I agree that sort of vibe suits Irene, cause that’s her natural personality/flare on stage when she’s performing. With the other members however, like you said, it doesn’t suit them as much cause that’s not their natural personality. So it feels a bit fake/staged or unnatural. I’m not even a hater cause I love them 🤣 I’ll eat up their songs nonetheless. But now that you mention it, it kind of seems like they were told, don’t show your personality on stage (which works fine for Irene, cause that’s her vibe) but it proves a weakness for the others as they don’t show that individualism/artistic flare when on stage. Honestly you should be their creative director !! Cause celebrate with your concept 👏🏾🤌🏾>> I also feel as though they’re mature enough as a group to be serving us the spice and sauce a bit more (but sm 🙄). I think most of them would thrive more in that sort of concept (sultry/rnb), and not just like oh, here’s a bside. Like, no, I want the visuals and all the theatrics. Touching on that I just want to say I love them as a group, but I don’t think sm are marketing/promoting/utilising them in such a way that takes advantage of the fact that they’re at such good ages to be doing a bit more mature concepts. I love red velvet for the red and velvet concepts but I think it would be wiser if they could keep the red and velvet concepts more balanced. It’s almost as though sm are holding them back. I think you’ve mentioned it in the birthday dance practice 🤔 almost as though sm wants to keep them ‘young’. Like they can afford to serve us more mother at this point in their career 🤷🏾‍♀️🤣 that’s what will allow them to stand out. Whilst simultaneously serving cutesy. I think they performed wildside in Japan 🤔 and also your fact about the sets/performance props are valid. I think they didn’t invest enough, I think it’s because compared to snsd stages/props (more dramatic/well thought out), they (as in sm/beyond live) did the bare minimum with that. I’m not sure (I’m not making any excuses) but I watched some videos saying the crowd wasn’t giving either, but I mean it might also be as a result of their lack of stage presence in this particular concert 🤷🏾‍♀️🤔. I have also watched some recent videos of their concerts in the Philippines (I think) and although Joy wasn’t there ☹️ their energy/stage presence was much better, but the audience was giving as well esp for their encore. Thanks for the reaction and your input, enjoyed watching the concert and also your comments !! Also sorry for the long comment, just loved your feedback and got carried away 🤣

Sigalit Dasa

RV stage presence isn’t the best, but I forgive them do to their amazing discography. I think that Joy was sick there, she didn’t attend their latest shows because of health reasons(from what I read online). I am so exited for you to react to Rv albums. Love the reaction and love RV💜

Koko3op

OMGGG I LOOOVE you for this comment, everything you're saying i'm literally verbally agreeing!! Haha I LOVE long comments. I'm so glad you love celebrate with my concept! YES I did mention that on my birthday reaction and some disagreed with me and thought it's mature and in my mind I'm thinking you thinking those movements and pigtails are still mature? lol Ok. Exactly, they're older and have been around for 8 years, SM should be taking advantage of that with more mature concepts but I guess they're scared to lose more popularity since Birthday was their first million seller so I guess it works? Yeahh the audience seemed flat as hell! Thanks again for such a thorough comment. Loved it! \

Taengkomo 309

Not so fun fact they sang 3 other songs after the stream ended... I think it has a lot to do with nerves because it was their second day of concert yet they switched the setlist order so basically doing the same thing but at the same time it's not really the same,, also idk why this tour is so rushed and jump packed. They started practicing a month before concert, the schedule really packed, the venues are all small despite the high demand and the ticketing was just a mess, less than a month for every single stops except korea and japan and for EU even less than two weeks. After korea they should be starting getting comfortable but Joy had to be absent from the rest of the tour due to health reason so again they had to readjust again (she had to stop around 3/4 of singapore stop) on top of learning new songs for japan stop (someone said it was recorded so manifesting wildside video). Currently wendy got covid so they postpone indefinitely for thailand stops and hopefully they can continue for Indonesia and EU. They're going to London, berlin and paris btw. I didn't try to make excuse but i always feel the first stop of the tour bound to be not as "exciting" for most artists but unfortunately that's usually the one got recorded Also Taeyeon new concert coming soon!

Koko3op

Yeahh I can see them warming up for sure. It does sound like a lot for them. Ahh what other 3 songs do you know??

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2023-06-23 19:20:53 The full encore basically : celebrate, my dear -beyond live cut it here- russian roulette, zimzalabim (it's not on the first day of Seoul but on 2nd day someone requested it and they did it, after that zzb never leave the encore setlist after 2nd day of seoul) and you better know For japan they the switch in&out with wildside Japan encore : color of love, swimming pool, aitai-tai, zimzalabim, you better know I'm in for more redvelvet content so if this intrigue you to see there previous concert, so be it 😂
2023-05-11 17:07:44 The full encore basically : celebrate, my dear -beyond live cut it here- russian roulette, zimzalabim (it's not on the first day of Seoul but on 2nd day someone requested it and they did it, after that zzb never leave the encore setlist after 2nd day of seoul) and you better know For japan they the switch in&out with wildside Japan encore : color of love, swimming pool, aitai-tai, zimzalabim, you better know I'm in for more redvelvet content so if this intrigue you to see there previous concert, so be it 😂

The full encore basically : celebrate, my dear -beyond live cut it here- russian roulette, zimzalabim (it's not on the first day of Seoul but on 2nd day someone requested it and they did it, after that zzb never leave the encore setlist after 2nd day of seoul) and you better know For japan they the switch in&out with wildside Japan encore : color of love, swimming pool, aitai-tai, zimzalabim, you better know I'm in for more redvelvet content so if this intrigue you to see there previous concert, so be it 😂

velvetfirefly

I have so much to say!!! Lol I totally get your criticism. As a matter of fact, I paid to watch this live and I kind of regret it. 😆 The word to describe this concert is: lackluster. Everything about it felt so meh. Like you said, they're lucky their music slaps,sad this concert didn't do it justice. The Beyond Live sound mixing is always terrible so that wasn't helping. And actually, every Red Velvet live concert has Wendy's vocals the loudest, then they have Seulgi and Joy in a normal volume and Irene and Yeri barely audiable. I hate it. They fixed that on the re-streaming though. But speaking of which, with Red Velvet SM really takes the positions thing seriously, probably to a fault. On their Red Mare DVD for instance it's just so weird that the amount of live vocals for each member varied so much, with Wendy singing live the most, followed by Seulgi then Joy while Irene's and Yeri's parts were mostly backtrack. It created this very weird sound mix in each song in the DVD. Like you said Irene gets a lot of center time and she does have this elegant performer style but I don't think that's the reason they're not stronger performers as a whole. I think their biggest issue is that they're not homogeneous with their performance. Like you pointed out in I Just, each member gives you different energy or gives nothing at all. Lol It's very confusing. But I still find Seulgi and Wendy to be great performers. Seulgi is the best cause she gives the exact amount of energy needed. Wendy sometimes is too over the top and she tends to smile or be sassy or cheeky doesn't matter what the song is about. Lol Irene turns on and off sometimes but even her off is giving 😆 Yeri on the other hand really just spaces out, that's literally her personality coming through. I've seen Red Velvet talk about that, how she can be completely quiet and silent, get up, sing and dance, and immediately go back to 0. She tends to perform better when they're closer to the crowd and the crowd is engaging with them. It's probably the Brazilian in me speaking but this crowd was DEAD, sorry. Although if we watching it from home were disappointed, imagine making the effort to go see them live and getting this? I wouldn't be super happy. Lol Or would I????? 🤣 Red Velvet should come to Brazil !!!! Anyway, I digress. Continuing on the topic of performance, Joy's biggest issue has always been stamina, she just doesn't have it for whatever reason. I understand a full concert is no an easy task but yeah, she's just kind of physically unable to give the energy we need. I wouldn't be surprised if she was sick during this concert, given that she soon dropped out of the tour altogether due to being ill. She probably was already pushing it but eventually couldn't do it anymore. Both her statement and SM's has been very vague btw. They just said she needs rest, for weeks or months it seems, but didn't say what her illness is. So who knows what's up with that. Also now Wendy is sick with covid and they had to postpone some Asia dates. They got to perform in Manila though and that was probably their best concert so far, they were much more energetic, probably because the crowd was insane. I think the crowd's energy really has a massive impact on the artists. Anyway, this is a long comment !!!! Sorry! Lol Just one last thing, well, two: I didn't know you hadn't listened to all of their discography??? Omg! You always say you're very familiar with SM groups so 😮 You should really get into that because RV just has the best discography in Kpop, period. And speaking of which, you must have seen this but when you talked about idols not knowing how to perform the ballad or sad or sensual songs, and you talked about how they should have their standing mics and do some dancing, like feeling the music and all, they did that ONE time!!!! With One of These Nights! Remember that comeback?? If you watch their live performances of that you'll get EXACTLY what you were dreaming about there 🤣 Even the outfits, with the long sleeves and stuff. They did that!! But as always, some performances were better than others so don't be too disappointed if you get a bad one lol There's one from a music show that's specially bad cause Wendy and Joy were both sick(but they still sang live). Ah, now that I think about it, that might be top 3 Red Velvet comebacks? Anyway. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. 💋 LOL And thank you for the video, it was a good time, your commentary was everything!!! ❤

dyacc

its bad obviously cos rv should just give 100% always anyway but...they were literally giving back the exact same energy the crowd was giving them which was nothing skdjfnk. Their concert recently in Manilla was night and day compared to their Seoul stop. Especially Irene. So much so I can't stop making jokes that she must hate KR bcos the difference in energy and performance she gave in Manilla was crazy. All of them tbh, but especially Irene. hopefully Micah can maybe check out their Red Room concert or a compilation of videos from their La Rouge concert, cos R to V in concept and design does not do any justice for what their concerts can be.

Anonymous

NEW HERE AND JUST ABOUT TO WATCH! Now while agree with your thoughts and with the individual members' stage performance dynamics, I think many factors plays a big role on the energy they are giving that day and the day before that. First the crowd was so dead, you would see a lot of clips Irene hyping them up but the energy was not reciprocated. Seulgi calling them out to jump but no one was following. They can't even sing in unison christ it was a mess all the intl luvies are calling out the dead crowd. It really takes two to tango. I've seen Red Velvet being so much fiercer than what they showed in this particular day. Heck they ultimately hyped when they were here in Manila even after not getting so much rest from all the travel and side schedules they had. In addition to this, god can we talk about how their performance director is shitting them with these recent group choreographies? It is not giving at all no creativity no nothing. God idk what's stopping them from contacting the choreographers of ICC, Dumb Dumb, Psycho, and Look. Even the Zimzalabim choreography is a fun to watch! We have seen Irene, Seulgi, and Wendy excel on dancing with their respective subunit/group debuts so I don't understand why sm keeps on giving them subpar choreography

Anonymous

Oh now that's something new I didn't expect someone to comment rv or any sm artist doing lip syncing esp on their concert. Would have given them the benefit of the doubt. Wendy watched the whole beyond live replay and was extremely disappointed because we can barely hear their live vocals. She def did what she had to do and talked to the team involved and they adjusted everything when they uploaded the replay online even the camera cuts. But god you can really hear their mics were ON the entire time. Things like this are the reason haters on the internet is downplaying sm artists vocal capabilities these days 🙃 like come on sm where is the trust you trained these girls for years!!!!

Anonymous

Thank you for commenting on the stage design because it looks bland as hell compared to their previous concerts!!!! Well before it was shimjaewon who was in charge with their concert as well as with snsd and exo but idk what happened now... went too minimal I guess 😬 they should really hire you as a consultant or something the sm brand getting a bit lousy these days and u know a lot about sm's quirkiness ever since day 1 god i miss those times they just go absolutely crazy about everything

Anonymous

Oh no you would really have loved all their previous concerts they were all having some role play skits and all and even on a ballad they were dancing with their mic stands with Kingdom Come god La Rouge is their superior concert it was a bummer it ended early bec of covid we did not even get a beyond live for it. Truly a masterpiece! There's a few fancams tho!!!! It was so enjoyable to watch as a whole cos there's a storyline and the girls were def enjoying it as well IT WAS JOY'S ERA AS WELL OHHH THE LATINA IN HER JUMPED OUT

dyacc

This was by faaaar their worst put together and organised concert. All your conspiracy theories were making me laugh. But I'm with you about pretty much all of them (even seulgi which is so so rare) not giving the concert everything. Other than them being given a poor show (no stage design, storyline, props etc): - the concert was rushed and an after thought. they were suppose to have a concert last year but days before the first show a couple members got covid and then it was delayed and then SCRAPPED. from all the promo material/poster it looked way better made than this concert but we'll never see it. - their last concert director Shim Jaewon who's been with them since predebut and works on all their concerts (his first concert as director was RV's 1st concert) didnt work with them this time and he now works with aespa now), - Joy said she had mic issues - usually their concerts have grand storylines, are more musical like, you get remixes and different renditions to songs (ice cream cake tango ver in red dresses is the most iconic + RR remix + RF remix +OT5 Be Natural and Be Natural and Automatic mash up I'm so sad this is the first RV concert you're seeing cos its nothing like what we usually get. RV as a group are great natural performers that you can just put them on an empty stage and expect them to give a show. It'd be nice if they were but they arent, and in the past that hasnt mattered cos theyve worked with creatives who utilise their strengths and what makes them unique as a group so we can get great shows, but this was anything but. What a waste. I cant believe this is the show SM decided to take on a world tour. Saying that the dead crowd in Korea influenced them and they've deffo had more fun on stages at their SEA stops like Manilla

Koko3op

Im glad my conspiracies tickled you haha. Yeah it's a shame this is the first concert I saw but I'm hoping they'll be many more I'll enjoy better.

Koko3op

UHSDAOH Latina! Love that lol, maybe I'll check out their other concert that i saw on youtube too.

Koko3op

I LOOOVE this comment, honestly, long comments are everything to me cos it's what makes all this worth it and encourages actual conversation that's not shallow! I checked out the one of these nights performance and YES! more of that, it's still a little wooden in a way BUT The concept is there. I might just check out some fancams of the manilla concert off camera for sure, I'm curious now. That's so funny regarding Yeri though but it does make a LOT of sense! My god if I'd paid for this I'd be LIVID LOOL. The thing is I've listened to two of their recent albums and have bsides from earlier albums but maybe I'm at like 55% ? So I'm looking forward to diving into the rest! \

Tim Nguyen

This isn't a defense of their performance cause it was lackluster but a criticism of Concert-going culture in general. I'm sure it's pretty tough for performers to create a human connection with their audience when all you see is a see of cell phones instead of eyes. As a concert going, the best concerts are the ones where they ban cell phones. You can actually enjoy the performers instead of trying to look over 10 cell phones in the way. I commend artists that can over come that challenge and still give it their all

j

I love that you love it 🫶🏾 thanks for replying back! After we were kind of ‘discussing it’, I also read the other comments. And, although I’ve been a fan of them for a while, I’ve never watched la rouge and saw a lot of people mention it in the comments. So obviously, I had to see it 🤣😌 I never found the full concert, but I did watch a compilation, of sorts, of all the best moments of la rouge concert day 1. Let me just say, that is where it’s at 🤌🏾. Basically, I was intrigued by a comment that said they did all the things that could be a critique (in r to v) in that concert. Ngl, they were right, spot on 🫢 There were only clips here and there, but I can tell from that, they were ✨giving✨ kinda wish I could watch the full concert now 😕☹️😔 The props/stages/sets were serving !! The choreo?!? She ate 🫡. They also did some choreo with one of the slow songs and the mic (which I think is something you mentioned 🤔) and it’s definitely something that was a good addition. When I saw that, I was like, damn, I see the vision, you’re a genius. They also had some mini ‘solo’ moments which I really felt gave the concert some life too. And there were a few interaction moments caught on fancams included 🥹 All round, from the compilation, la rouge was the concert to be at, it is the moment. You can tell it was well prepared and a lot of thought went into it 🥰 I’ll leave a link for the video I watched, if you want to watch in your free time maybe 👉🏾 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ztHRvNA6L64&pp=ygUTUmVkIHZlbHZldCBsYSByb3VnZQ%3D%3D . But even if you don’t that’s okay, I know you’re always busy creating videos for us 🥰 Anyways, thanks for all your reactions/opinions/honesty/interaction, I feel like I can have a conversation 🤣. I for one appreciate all your hard work 🫶🏾 !

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2023-06-23 19:20:53 Aww I'm glad you like long comments 🤭 Looking forward to your Red Velvet deep dive! I have a playlist of their more R&B songs which I think you'd like for sure but Red Velvet's discography is such a trip, so much to explore !!! Excited for you! btw, I'm always asking you about IU lol But just wanted to let you know the DVD for her 2022 concert is finally coming out in late July, I already got my copy 🤗 I think it'd be awesome if you watched it in the future 👀 Man, it must be crazy to create this kind of content, there is so much to keep up with, probably too much LOL Keep up the good work 😆 ❤
2023-05-19 00:50:53 Aww I'm glad you like long comments 🤭 Looking forward to your Red Velvet deep dive! I have a playlist of their more R&B songs which I think you'd like for sure but Red Velvet's discography is such a trip, so much to explore !!! Excited for you! btw, I'm always asking you about IU lol But just wanted to let you know the DVD for her 2022 concert is finally coming out in late July, I already got my copy 🤗 I think it'd be awesome if you watched it in the future 👀 Man, it must be crazy to create this kind of content, there is so much to keep up with, probably too much LOL Keep up the good work 😆 ❤

Aww I'm glad you like long comments 🤭 Looking forward to your Red Velvet deep dive! I have a playlist of their more R&B songs which I think you'd like for sure but Red Velvet's discography is such a trip, so much to explore !!! Excited for you! btw, I'm always asking you about IU lol But just wanted to let you know the DVD for her 2022 concert is finally coming out in late July, I already got my copy 🤗 I think it'd be awesome if you watched it in the future 👀 Man, it must be crazy to create this kind of content, there is so much to keep up with, probably too much LOL Keep up the good work 😆 ❤

baekhyun’s my source of living.

As far as I always love sm’s vocalists and from an sm stan, I wanna see them perform and improvise on stage but I think I’ll never see that. Most of them always do what the staff told them to and it’s kinda boring and a bit disappointing to me.

inconsistent enjoyer

RV is not really known for their stage presence but this one was a rough one ( a shame, i love the setlist). Saw their primavera sound performance the other day and they actually looked like they were having fun.

Chloé Hoarau

Like you said it's a shame that these seasoned artists don't seem to get much, if any, creative liberty when it comes to their concerts. Like, if you are a fan who knows the choreo and saw pics of the outfits it's like you've basically seen their concert which is a shame considering the amazing things they could do with their discography. Plus they are only 5, why not let each of them have a solo song or unit performances? idk just to change things up but no...same old bare stages and very planned and to the point performances. This tour was kind of a mess tbh; i really wanted to go but the tickets went on sale like two weeks (if that) before the first european date...it's like they don't want people to show up for these girls it's wild how rushed this was. As for the girls themselves i feel like they were just tired because of how short the preparation period was and some of the members come off to me like they are TIRED overall of sm's nonsense. Like wdym some members have pretty much nothing on their schedule, the group has no comeback (before or during the tour) and yet you give them ONE month to prepare for a world tour... what gives? First world tour nine years into their career and most of it was done with one member missing, very little rest time between countries and with the girls somehow thinking that not a lot of people would show up for them abroad. I love Red Velvet, they are my ult group, but this tour has me wondering what is gonna become of them with their 10 year anniversary coming up and knowing what happened with SNSD... SM is just letting people down left and right lol. I just hope that if that's what the girls want they get another opportunity to have a concert where hopefully all of those things will be fixed and they will all have the same energy! Anyways this is a long comment but I like talking about this tour and RV in general, it's so fascinating to me that such a big group could have a concert like this one. I shall keep listening to their music and hope for the best lol