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Looking for Feedback on Livestreams (Patreon)

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2024-01-12 18:32:20
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2024-01

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Looking for some feedback today!   

We're looking at how we want to structure livestreams on YouTube going forward. No decision has been made yet, so this is just a time for you to voice your feedback before we discuss in more detail next week.  

Right now, the only livestreams on the main channel are for podcasts and big event streams, like our upcoming Persona stream on Sunday. The LIVE channel is used for all of our other stream series, including Yahtzee Tries, Hidden Treasures, DMC, etc etc.  

We know a big issue back on The Escapist was overloading people's feed with livestreams, which we do not want to do again. And while we like having the LIVE channel separate, we also recognize we might be hurting our audience growth by not having those streams on the main channel as that's where our main audience is.   

No decision is being made today on this, we're just gathering feedback.  

So here's what we're discussing, and I would like your feedback on:  

Do we move our livestreams back to the main channel and have them unlisted when they're done airing so that they are not in your feed, and use the LIVE channel as an archive channel for those streams so that we keep the main feed uncluttered? 

This means that to watch the VOD version you would need to go the LIVE (archive) channel to watch those.  The playlists would be in a section at the bottom of the main channel so you can find them easily as well, but they won't be in your feed when they are done airing to keep things uncluttered.

Comments

Anonymous

How about you re-host one livestream on the main channel per week? Get channel growth, get some variety on the main channel, make people aware of other content on a regular basis. I'd suggest not archiving them, just have some samples of your good shows on the main channel with a "subscribe to second wind live for more" banner or something.

Toksyuryel

Youtube already saves livestream VODs into a separate tab from the regular video uploads so I am not certain I actually understand what the problem is here that would necessitate the existence of a separate channel if you aren't streaming somewhere else and then uploading the VODs from there onto youtube.

Joe Donnelly

I don’t much care for livestreams. Keeping them separate would be my choice. I actually wish there was a way to trim down the “live” podcasts to make them easier to listen for audio listeners. You spend almost a half hour or more reading off super chats and donations that only sometimes have anything to do with the podcast topic.

Mr D Sir

I wonder if co-hosting would be an option. YouTube apparently has this Go Live Together feature that allows one channel to co-host the live stream of another. The caveat is that it's currently mobile only but, if I understand it correctly, it would allow the main channel to announce and host the streams on its channel while everything is actually taking place on the Livestream channel. A desktop version is apparently in the works but no word on when it'd be released.

Bark Flemmingrad

yeah having livestreams happen live on the main channel and get archived on the second channel seems good, it'll be nice to go to the main channel and be able to just see if there is a livestream happening without needing to go to twitch or the secondary channel

Anonymous

I'd go as far as to keep them separated entirely, keep one channel for scripted, edited content and one for streams, events and streams of consciousness stuff.

Guglop

if you're going to have a LS channel, all the streams should be on that channel with no exceptions. If you occasionally put streams on the main channel you are saying "this video is unimportant and we don't care about it" if it is only posted to the LS channel

Anonymous

Keep them seperate. Second Wind live for live stuff. Second Wind for edited content. They are two different things and it makes it easier for me to watch the live stuff because I just go into videos and the latest live videos is right there at the top without having to dig through. The Second Wind youtube channel is cluttered enough already.

Maciej Myczkowski

I go to the main channel to look for something short that I'll pay full attention to, and I browse what's there to try new things when they show up. I go to the live channel when I need something to play in the background while I'm doing something else. If everything was in one place, it would be hard to find what I want, I'd have to rely on playlists, and then I'd miss a lot of your content.

Anonymous (edited)

Comment edits

2024-01-14 14:21:10 The suggestion of having the VOD on the live account as an archive seems like a good compromise, it makes a lot more sense than having some streams on the main channel and some on the live one. Though to be honest I'm not all that picky about streams/premiers in my feed so I might not be representative..
2024-01-14 14:19:22 The suggestion of having the VOD on the live account as an archive seems like a good solution, it makes a lot more sense than having some streams on the main channel and some on the live one. Though to be honest I'm not all that picky about streams/premiers in my feed so I might not be representative.. Add-on: I like the point @Guglop makes above. The live channel hasn't grown because it's treated as ancillary. It either needs to be a whole-hog with podcasts and event streams (risky, internet news has long moved on) or relegated to an archive (definitely my vote).

The suggestion of having the VOD on the live account as an archive seems like a good solution, it makes a lot more sense than having some streams on the main channel and some on the live one. Though to be honest I'm not all that picky about streams/premiers in my feed so I might not be representative.. Add-on: I like the point @Guglop makes above. The live channel hasn't grown because it's treated as ancillary. It either needs to be a whole-hog with podcasts and event streams (risky, internet news has long moved on) or relegated to an archive (definitely my vote).

Keyvan

I was just going to comment on Youtube but came to comment here and saw this post. Could JM8 stop saying bitch please? I stopped watching streams that he is in a while a ago, I gave it another shot recently and he still says that. I have to stop watching those streams again.

Embrace_the_Jank

I am in the camp of Live Streams on the main channel, archived on the other channel but with another name, if changing it is possible. Instead of Second Wind Live, maybe Second Wind Archives or Second Wind Annals (because, yeah)...