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In Part 2 with Chris Miller, we delve into his role as the Director of Counterterrorism. He recounts the experience of witnessing the live Predator feed during a Delta Force operation targeting Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. The operation, named after Kayla Mueller, a humanitarian aid worker from Prescott, Arizona, United States. Mueller had been taken captive in Aleppo, Syria, in August 2013, after leaving a Doctors Without Borders hospital.

Shawn and Chris explore the intricacies of wartime bureaucracy, discussing how Rules of Engagement (ROEs) underwent changes, thereby influencing the manner in which soldiers executed operations. Subsequently, we gain insights into Chris's appointment as Secretary of Defense (SecDef) under the Trump administration and the repercussions of the Afghanistan withdrawal.

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Geri Lynne Dannels

I think Shawn is absolutely correct in saying war is a big business to the leadership of this country. These cowards wouldn't last one day in a war, that said they have no problem sending our young men and women in a fight for their life.

Anonymous

I love your show and your guests are truly incredible. I sincerely thank you for everything. The controversial drone strike you where thinking of I think was when United States killed the Iranian General Qasem Soleimani. Thank you again 💪💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸