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Proportion/Pregnancy Gameplay Effects (Discussion) (Patreon)

Published:
2019-12-26 11:41:56
Imported:
2020-08

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Hi, I hope everyone is still enjoying their holiday time.

I was implementing some more of the intro scene tonight when I realized that I don't believe I've done a proper discussion on the topic yet, in regards to how these changes to the girls bodies will affect them in the game itself. At least, I don't think we've had a discussion like this. Let me know if I've just forgotten!

So what am I talking about here? Well, mainly in gameplay/combat scenarios. What kind of effect should Tiffany (or other girls) being pregnant have on their abilities or choices/options? Should they have altered stats? Should they be unable to do certain things? Are their specific events that should only be available while they are pregnant?

Keep in mind that there are two stages to pregnancy, so potentially an gameplay effect that increases as the pregnancy stages do?

I assume most people still want to view all of the sex scenes, even while Tiffany is fully pregnant. That's why I am going to be adding those scenes regardless. I don't want players to end up with less content because they allowed their girls to become pregnant and now have to wait for future versions to continue. (except obviously they won't be able to get pregnant again until they give birth).


Same question but for her proportions in general. Should her bigger tits/ass etc come with additional side effects? Decreased or perhaps even increased stats? Special events/scenes? Or should it mostly just be a cosmetic change to the girl's appearances?

I have an idea for v0.08 that I'm working on (Though it's not going to be ready for the beta release) where Tiffany will have a bit of trouble walking around and keeping her balance as she adjusts to her new proportions. But the idea for that was just during the casino stage. By the end of it she will be able to move normally again as she would have gotten used to how her body balances by then. That and being able to choose how Tiffany feels about the current state of her body (which will affect a few lines of dialogue) is all I really had planned in terms of how the game would be affected by Tiffany's increased proportions. The rest just being the obvious cosmetic changes to scenes.


Please let me know your thoughts and ideas for this in the comments below. I'm really curious to get feedback on this sort of thing.

~ Jim

Comments

MisterMaus

As long as the birth scenes will be skippable i'm content, maybe make it so that late-stage pregnant charcters have to stay home for a day?

Jimjim3dx
>>30438037

They will definitely be skippable. I don't even know how much of it I'm allowed to show in the first place. I will make it an option to wait at a safezone/skip a day in later versions after all the repeatable CGs are completed. For now, I don't want to make pregnant Tiffany have to wait a whole day and miss out on content. And I want to let people who want so see a pregnant Tiffany have sex, have it.

Anonymous

As a girl moves through the stages of pregnancy I think their agility stat should be greatly reduced if not completely reduced to zero. Perhaps the severity of the reduction increases as they move through the stages of pregnancy with the agility reduced to zero at the final stage of pregnancy. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a woman to be dodging/evading attacks while she's bloated, feet swollen, nauseous, etc...additionally I think zombies and other enemies have a smaller chance of outright missing an attack seeing that the target is larger and therefore easier to hit. These two mechanics would essentially make it so that a pregnant woman would virtually always be hit or stripped by and attack. Considering the fact that the girls would be so large, especially at later stages of pregnancy, I think that it would be funny if the smaller zombies(regular, female, and futa) would have a difficult time overpowering a completely naked pregnant girl due to her increased size and weight. Rather than saying they outright missed an attempt at over powering one of these characters, the text would read something along the lines of "zombie uses overpower.....he is unable to overpower the pregnant Tiffany" this might be a good way to balance combat out considering the increased chance of getting stripped. It's worth noting that larger enemies such as the double dick zombie, alpha, and bestial would have no problem overpowering a pregnant girl, nor would a group of regular sized zombies like the three Tiffany encounters when she first meets Sydney

Jimjim3dx
>>30438213

Thanks, these are some solid suggestions. I like the idea about the agility stat. It does make the most sense. Some interesting ideas with the overpower/resist mechanic as well. Maybe the ammount of END points she needs to resist certain enemies could be altered? Or her END point total could be reduced? Maybe some special events, like she feels the baby kick as makes her skip a turn?

Kane

Changes I would see during pregnacy - during a battle it should no longer be possible to escape - during battle the person should be able to choose the sex type. Like choose anal instead of vaginal even if she is not a slut for zombies - she could be slower during walking, make it harder to avoid zombies - the hormons could make her crazy, which could randomly resulting in her being more aggressiv so that she gives more damage or the opposite, she would become super horny and immediatly submit.

Anonymous

All of the above are good suggestions. maybe, there could be a feature depending on who got Tiffany pregnant that zombies are reacting to it, so for example: a) if a human got tiff pregnant all zombies would still try to rape her and impregnate her. b) if a zombie got tiff pregnant, certain zombies would not attack her anymore cuz they can sense the baby inside her (normal zombie would not attack if an alpha got her pregnant, but alpha would attack if a normal zombie got her pregnant, cuz he is higher up the food chain) maybe something like that is even easy to implement? Cuz you only have to work with flags for the different types? I dunno just an idea ^^

Anonymous

I feel like during battles to make this even more intense, when batting tiffany will all of a sudden have a sudden lactation that would render her turn skipped. However, with bigger proportions and a damn right sexier body (I love preggos...) she would be heavier allowing her defences to be better. But the lactation is like a 35% chance in each battle thing.

Anonymous

As for fights with humans, you could have a mini scene that would allow them to play with her tits and milking or something for three turns. Like in KarrynsPrison (a game, from the creator of meltys quest)

Jimjim3dx
>>30438310

Some good idea here. Thanks. I like the no escape idea. I don't see why she should get to choose which hole to use. The zombie is going to use her how he wants unless she is smart enough to play along. Gives value to the OvuHealth Pill + reasons to avoid combat if you don't want the baby to take damage. Walking slower is a nice idea, but I think I'll reserve that for the second stage of pregnancy.

Jimjim3dx
>>30438976

That's a good idea for when I implement zombie impregnation. Zombies would probably just demand blowjobs instead though, if she was already knocked up by another zombie of the same tier. Probably wouldn't just ignore her, haha.

Jimjim3dx
>>30439225

Hmmm, I haven't played that game myself. How does it work? They play with her tits and allow Tiffany 3 free turns?

Jimjim3dx

I've got a dumb lore idea as to how her new clothes will fit her no matter the body type. Well at least the bikini part... Not sure how I would necessarily make her easier to strip since the zombies basically get a guaranteed strip so long as they land their blows. Perhaps Tiffany could randomly have "wardrobe malfunctions" during combat that result in armor pieces breaking and falling off on their own?

Jimjim3dx

Good ideas guys. Keep em coming. I'll investigate how viable some of these are in the coming weeks. Probably won't be in the beta, but in the final release of v0.08 I would like some differences in the gameplay depending on body type/pregnancy stage.

deamonmaster

Her increased proportions should make it so she bumps into things way more often. This can naturally change how scenes play out out-of-combat, and in-combat this can result in accidentally blocking enemy attacks, with bigger proportions giving higher chances. I am trying to think of a way that bigger proportions can actually help the player, since most the suggestions so far were disadvantages, or at best neutral.

Jimjim3dx
>>30441125

Yes, it would be nice if there were some positives as well. Don't want to make the game unplayably hard. As for your suggestions. How would she "bump into things" outside of combat? What are your ideas for that gameplay wise? So her big tits get in the way of her opponents and make it harder for them to strip her? Idk, sounds like it'd get in her own way more than her enemies.

Anonymous

I think the pregnancy/size increases should effect stats primarily. Lower chance to dodge, lower chance to flee, and lower chance to hit in melee. Balancing that with reduced Endurance costs for Resists would be neat, since yeah she'd be heavier and therefore harder to overpower. Additionally, the downsides here could be mitigated by training with the new mentor character who's gonna be showing up later, which is also a slick way of making it optional for players who might find it sexy that Tiffany's bod gets in the way of doing anything productive (like me) The special scenes I think should be tied to her fetishes/what she's a slut for. For example, if she's a slut for pregnancy/being impregnated, and she is currently pregnant in a battle, she might spend a turn rubbing her belly and milking herself. If she's a slut for zombie dick, she might waste a turn stripping a piece of clothing or intentionally missing an attack, with the chance increasing with every encounter she goes without satisfying the craving.

Anonymous

I think a combat style change when the pregnancy starts to show. Like she gets a mores defensive style in combat to make sure no harm comes to her baby is one idea. For her initial proportions when she is released she should have a negative effect, like stumbling around getting used to her new proportions is a good one. and a stealth idea is if she doesn't milk herself she can release milk randomly and alert zombies to her position. Maybe If you have a mother character who can help Tiffany get used to the increase sizes from being pregnant from her own experiences.

Jimjim3dx
>>30442766

Yep, that was exactly my plan. To potentially nerf Tiffany so that the Training became more useful to get her back to full speed. Though I’m not exactly sure if these stat effects here should be permanent, or just a temporary thing until she gets used to her body, idk. Yes, I will add different grope and masturbate attacks during combat scenes later to make them more interesting. The way you describe it sounds a bit like what I have planned for the “addiction” phase of her fetishes which give her negative consequences for being too much of a slut.

Jimjim3dx
>>30444152

Hmm, interesting idea. Not sure about sudden lactation alerting zombies, though I guess you’ll have to wait and see what my stealth idea is first ;) of course, Jebadiah will take care of her “Lactation Training” :)

Anonymous

Speaking with a degree of experience in the matter... since the pregnancy is accelerated to just three days, and a normal human pregnancy is separated into Trimesters (Three Parts)... why not simply do the same? Meaning: 1st Trimester - During the first trimester females undergo many changes thanks to Hormones that affect almost every organ system in your body. Key Word Here... Hormones => HORNY! There is no reason why a horny female can not pounce on a male with the sole purpose of turning him into a quivering mass of jello. ('Nuf Said). 2nd Trimester - Everyone is going to notice new, more noticeable changes to any woman. The abdomen will expand as the baby continues to grow! Yes, Babies get bigger, which will affect and effect the way a woman not only moves, but maintains her balance... She will learn to compensate, it is Mother Nature reminding "MOM" to be getting ready for the 3rd Trimester as her maternal instinct kicks in. A Woman will move with a purpose with her noticeable protrusion attracting frequently unwanted male attention because let's face it... Her pheromones will draw their attention to the fact that she IS Pregnant. Males will instinctively fight off other males... consider it "Sex as a Weapon". ('Nuf Said) 3rd Trimester - Mom will still need to fight off that unwanted male attention, but also maintain her balance as baby moves her centre-of-gravity even further forward... but no worry, Mom will do more than waddle like a duck... Breasts that stream milk at the slightest touch, that can cause temporary blindness... and spontaneous orgasms that can Milk a penis with such ferocity, that the average male (even a zombie) will spurt semen like a mountain river. ('Nuf Said). This is a Zombie Apocalypse Fantasy Game, right? Why not make her pregnancy a positive thing instead of mostly negative? Yea, yea, yea... Tiffany will waddle, get over it and stop staring at her ass... oh wait! is that another distraction? Males have a Brain AND a Penis, with only enough blood for ONE to function properly at a time. Win-Win-Win...

Jimjim3dx
>>30446728

You bring up some decent points, but I’m about to sleep so I will respond properly later :)

Anonymous

Was discussing with a friend about this topic, here is their idea: I'd say because of the enhancements, it gives her a more boost overall. But if she was also pregnant and/or lactating as well. She should be weakened with her speed decreased.Meaning her accuracy is lowered but her melees are much stronger.After she gives birth, then it should boost her speed where it is supposed to be.Implying using a gun is better.But because she got new proportions and isn't used to it yet, she should be missing a lot. Due to the way she holds her gun with two hands, it'll be hard for her to aim since her breasts are so overly large.So definitely accuracy decrease, strength increase, higher HP, and a new skill. Probably a skill related to rage, because of her mood swings, giving her a damage buff skill.

Kitsune

Personally I would love the idea of bigger breasts and advances pregnancy should have penalties in speed and battle, in speed, Tiffany is slow in battle, option to make her slow while exploring would be nice but may be annoying to some, people for obvious reasons, in battle, since she will have bigger assets, then the chances of tiffany clothing getting ripped in combat should be higher than normal, lets face it, those thongs and micro bikinis were never made to hold forever, and as you pointed out,Tiffany suffering a balace would be a great mechanic where she will accidentally drop in the floor while in combat and be forced to skip a turn just to stand up again , but just when her new assets are still new and hard to move on,

Kane

Maybe an idea to use pregnacy as a advantage. A new attack mode only available during pregnacy. Maybe she can use the bigger breasts as a distraction. Zombie would be distracted and Tiffany could make a twin attack with just one move

Jimjim3dx
>>30448641

Yes, I was considering mood swings. But I don't want to make too many random negative affects or have the player character in a bad mood that the player can't control. I don't think it'd be too fun if Tiffany was too much out of the player's control. So, you're saying in her new base, her strength should go up because of the enhancements, and only go down when she is in the pregnant stages? And yeah, she will probably hold her gun with one hand at stage 2.

Jimjim3dx
>>30454207

Yeah, perhaps I will make pregnancy have some negative things, like slower movement, but then you can use some drug/item to boost speed back to normal for the day? That might work. If special items can mitigate the negative effects.

Jimjim3dx
>>30462710

Yes, well, that's kind of like the idea I had for Tiffany to gain a free turn by stripping a piece of her own clothing to confuse the zombies. They think she's submitting to them so they pause their attack, allowing Tiffany to get a free hit in.

Anonymous

My take would be random mood swings (not the horny kind), change the tone of dialogue. Asking how the hell some people act leisurely when they are walled off and surrounded by flesh eating monsters. Depending on who the father is she would try to protect the child even if its father was some fat bastard, as some said a defence boost with a speed reduction would fit. And is she is pregnant from a zombie a plant to abort the baby would make sense even is she was a slut for them why on earth would she want to bring another monster to this world. Random milk leaks during combat and cutscenes along with faster dehydration also make sense since the milk has to come from somewhere and maybe lower endurance in combat. Map exploration move speed reduction (harder to zoom around the zombies). Overall try to find balance between realism and the insanity of the world she lives in and the current outbreak. And some emotional support from the girls would be nice. Being pregnant just for 3 days and giving birth is no easy matter after all.

Just

Is there an option that, when Tiffany’s top is stripped (by herself or an attacker) then she can shoot jets of milk from her tits - after some training maybe - and temporarily blind an attacker, or resist a sex scene?

Jimjim3dx
>>34747368

I believe there has been some talk of this before. I don't really have any solid plans for it at this point in time, but it could become a thing in the future I suppose.

Anonymous

Really glad some one made a high quality, pregnant combat featured game. Looking forward to the pregnancy side effects and outfit for the new proportion.