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Cowboy Bebop: The Movie (Patreon)

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2023-12-02 21:44:38
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2023-12
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Man this was so much fun! We loved getting to see this world in movie quality! The animation and music were both on point and it was really nice seeing our crew working together again! We are seriously going to miss this series, but thanks to everyone who told us to watch this we got one last adventure with them!

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Kristopher

So, one of the things that often gets brought up with this movie is the question of where this movie sits in the timeline of the show, and how that fits with the various character arcs. It seems that the widely held interpretation is that this takes place sometime in the second half of the show, before the finale and before the last handful of episodes where the crew breaks up and go their separate ways. I am going to suggest a different interpretation and my personal reasons for this belief. I am probably wrong, and the creator I believe has suggested the previous, widely held belief is cannon. But that frankly doesn't make sense to me. Spoilers for both the movie and finale of the show are ahead, so be warned. Let me begin by giving some facts. First, are the characters and the setting. This film, originally titled "Knocking on Heaven's Door" after the Bob Dylan song, takes place on Mars. A location that the crew has only truly gone to only a handful of times. They've been to moons and asteroids in the area, but the times they've actually gone to the Mars settlement have been Ballad of Fallen Angels, Boogie Woogie Feng Shui, and The Real Folk Blues. All of these episodes have a heavy Crime Syndicate presence, Spike was a target for the 3, episodes about his story, and the 4th he was on the ship when they were on the planet. Spike being actively out and about on Mars is not something we ever see from Spike in the show because the few times he is, he is engaged in deadly fights with members of these syndicates. The trio of old guys were never on the planet Mars in the show. We first see them on the Asteroid colony New TJ, and they later in the show migrate to other asteroids further out into space. Mars is not their home and their presence here is not impossible, but unusual. Old Man Bull. He does not live on Mars. He lives on the Asteroid TJ. And the other times we see him in the show the setting seems to be the same. He could be nomadic, but with how localized so many of the characters are in different episodes, this seems to not be the norm for anyone who isn't a bounty hunter or an interplanetary trucker. There is also that flash of Jet talking in the movie about how "he" died, when Spike is injured and being cared for by Old Man Bull. The placement of this in the movie, along with the jail cell scene with Electra leads me to believe that this entire movie is not the real life, but is instead a dying dream that Spike has after his run in with Vicious in the finale of the show. That after Julia's death, and after getting his revenge, the thing his heart desires most in that moment is another adventure with his broken, but newly found family. An adventure that takes place on Mars, his birthplace and home that has never known peace in his lifetime of crime and anti-crime. And an adventure that brings in people from across the solar system to the place that was his home once upon a time, long ago, in a different life. Vincent and Electra are parts of him and Julia, externalized for him to see. Vincent is the part of Spike that could not let go and lived as though he was only ever in a dream. And Spike fights him on that bridge that connects Heaven (the afterlife, the dreaming) and Earth (the real life, the awake) But Spike is not able to beat him because, he was not able to let go of that part of himself before in his life. It is Electra that defeats him and breaks that part of him open. It is Julia that forces Spike to wake up, specifically Julia's death. If Spike probably thinks that had he truly died, then maybe Julia and other around him would be able to go on, and Spike often has thought of himself as a dead man, and man already dead, which is why he is so carefree all of the time. The truth is, I don't really know, but there is so much about this story that fits too awkwardly into the universe if it is all 100% real, and that awkwardness makes a whole lot more sense when I follow this frame of thought. And of course, the final credit song of the film beings it back once again to that original Japanese title that makes it all the clearest for me: Spike Spiegel is: KNOCKING ON HEAVEN'S DOOR

Kristopher
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And actually another very important thing I forgot to mention in support of my point is that the movie does take place on Halloween, aka All Hallows Eve, aka the Eve of All Saint's Day, which is in myth, the day that the souls of the dead are released into the after life.

Unreal Gaz

Glad you all loved the show! As to how Electra got the vaccine Vincent was probably injected with it before the mission to Titan which would be a testing zone for the nanomachine that he and the other solders we put into. More than likely they had "contact" before he left. This seems alluded to in the line "after all this time I never knew I had those things inside of me". It fits with her last time seeing Vincent before he went crazy.