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This show goes over the short stories of Michael’s favorite speculative fiction author and notable curmudgeon Harlan Ellison. Each episode Michael pairs (read: forces a friend to read) a short story with a guest that it “applies especially to.” This episode it’s the short story “The Silver Corridor” (from Ellison Wonderland) and the guest is Bridgett Greenberg. They discuss the competitive spirit, it’s impact in other aspects of their lives, and how sometimes “cog feel bad.”

We apologize in advance for Michael’s audio. Apparently a tiny bean made its way into the microphone wire and wreaked havoc (tiny beans feel competitive and sometimes lash out on the podcast).

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Bridgett Greenberg: https://twitter.com/bridgetttweets

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Alaric Stuckrath

Haven’t listened to the full episode, but I didn’t know Abe did the intro music. It’s badass.

Liam Dodd

This was a really good episode, and I really enjoyed Bridgett's views and thoughts. When you were talking about argument and arguing, and whether Bridgett's competitiveness in sport came into how it was winning an argument, and mentioned those who do debate as a school/collegiate activity where argument has been gamified have a lot of the winning and losing at front of mind when they argue. I did Debate pretty obsessively at Uni, to the point where I won national competitions, went to tournaments all over the world, and spent two nights a week of my entire time at Uni in a small room play-arguing, and most weekends asleep on a floor at a competition. When I joined Debate at 18 I was super argumentative, and wanting to make everything about facts and logic and highlighting fallcies, etc. After five years of debate, and then the seven years since then, I am way more chill about arguing. I still disagree with people, and will push them on their positions, but most arguments and discussions that people have about society, politics, economics, etc. have the bones of arguments I have ran in debates a number of times. So the interest seems to be about seeing how the person I am talking to slots into these positions, and how they interact with them in slightly different ways. As the episode went on I thought more about how I deal with argumentation these days, and why I am more chill these days, and I think Bridgett hit on something about the male-ness of argumentation at times, and how I feel that I could probably 'win' most discussions if it was scored like a debate, so there is no 'need' for me to win in this discussion, and instead it is an oppurtunity to learn what someone thinks and poke at it to try and see if it can be changed. The male audacity of assuming that I could win is probably a bad place to be, but I think it makes me more open to internalising people's positions and changing mine when I see better argumentation and evidence. I could 'debate score' win this argument within any position, so the argument lacks that purpose, so instead it is just a learning experience if unheated, and a good oppurtunity if more heated and crucial. But this was just an all the old memories and thoughts on arguing that came flooding in throughout this episode.