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Dattebayo Ship - Ep 23/24 (Patreon)

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2023-09-28 20:15:22
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Can't believe Sakura is going toe to toe with Sasori! 

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Saith Uchiha

Hope your both feeling better

Prateek Sridhar

Hope you prioritize your recovery and recuperation over other things, take care of yourself, stay hydrated and keep your immune system up. Don't push yourselves to do something when your body is telling you it isn't in a shape to do some thing. Love you guys! 💖

Andre

yeah i think the reason this arc is called slow is cause of the flashbacks during the fight(s) + the constant back and forth between Naruto & Kakashi + Team Guy (which was drawn out way longer than it should’ve). great reaction tho! also side note: hope you guys are feeling well + recovering okay 🩵 feel better soon

Jose Vega

next 2 episodes are really the best for this fight. they are good

KevUrb

Ron you are correct, the early shippuden pacing is indeed due to us being under the effects of itachi’s mangekyo sharingan

PokeTheBear (edited)

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2023-09-28 23:05:09 Ron Lady chiyo said herself that Sakura is strong, and that she was able to deduce Sasori's patterns and movements on her own, it's been 2 and a half years and she's been training with the current HOKAGE. SO of course she's going to be stronger. She has grown, but that doesn't mean the akatsuki is weak, our characters are just stronger. Sakura has always had good chakra control, and analytical skills developed with training with Tsunade. Let her have her moment!! The fandom hates on her enough :(
2023-09-28 20:57:34 Ron Lady chiyo said herself that Sakura is strong, and that she was able to deduce Sasori's patterns and movements on her own, it's been 2 and a half years and she's been training with the current HOKAGE. SO of course she's going to be stronger. She has grown, but that doesn't mean the akatsuki is weak, our characters are just stronger. Sakura has always had good chakra control, and analytical skills developed with training with Tsunade. Let her have her moment!! The fandom hates on her enough :( But you have to remember, she's not from a special clan she doesn't have a demon fox inside her, Kishimoto Wrote her as an "ordinary" girl, That alone makes her character growth impressive!

Ron Lady chiyo said herself that Sakura is strong, and that she was able to deduce Sasori's patterns and movements on her own, it's been 2 and a half years and she's been training with the current HOKAGE. SO of course she's going to be stronger. She has grown, but that doesn't mean the akatsuki is weak, our characters are just stronger. Sakura has always had good chakra control, and analytical skills developed with training with Tsunade. Let her have her moment!! The fandom hates on her enough :( But you have to remember, she's not from a special clan she doesn't have a demon fox inside her, Kishimoto Wrote her as an "ordinary" girl, That alone makes her character growth impressive!

Sol Hana

I feel like Ron is being too harsh on Sakura lol , this is her first real fight in shippuden. This fight is the only way we can see her development over the past 3 years, you gotta keep in mind that as far as you guys know, she doesn’t have a beast inside her like naruto or the sharingan like sasuke. Just stay tuned and she’ll continue to surprise you just like naruto and sasuke!

NamelessKing67

yeah im thinking the same sakura would be fucked if granny chijo wasnt there and in my opinion this fight shows sakura way stronger than she is she iust is not even close in strengh to sasori thats be mc bullshit like he survives shit no one else can so yeah not a fan of that

RorotheShadow

Please stop underestimating Sakura! I also think the only reason why many consider Sakura to be "weak" or "not strong enough" in Shippuden is because her character development and skill development didn't happen at the same time as Naruto's and Sasuke's development. Unfortunately, in OG Naruto, Sakura was really neglected in terms of development.

Igor Costa

My dude is thinking too much on either sakura is weak or not or sasori is strong or not

Divine Simp

Day 1 of asking which movies, if any, you will watch, only the last 2 of shippuden are canon, but you did watch non canon movies from MHA so just wondering if this has been discussed yet.

Kevin Depoppe

it almost feels like you guys missed that sakura smashed the strong kazekage puppet in the end :p there was no emotion xD the thing is that it is still a 2 v 1 and one of sasori's opponents is his grandmother who know everything about him and most of his dolls. if chiyo or sakura would have 1v1 sasori they would have been dead already.

jeremychavez

yesssss let the sakura hate flowwww throughhhhh you

Elessar

@NamelessKing67 Sakura is stronger than Sasori. Physically that is. I know that's not a guaranteed win, but you saying Sasori is "stronger" than Sakura is wrong. He is the better fighter. Words matter so use appropriate words. That being said, Sakura made really good plays in this fight. Would Sasori beat her 1v1? Obviously. It was a joint effort, and Sakura absolutely contributed big time. And she is only 16.

Cody Wild

So Sakura has been training with Tsunade just as much, if not more, than Naruto has been training with Jariya during the time skip. Remember how Tsunade fought Orochimaru… it was mostly punches and kicks but she kept up with a “nerfed” Orochimaru. Her style just isn’t flashy but effective. Now Sakura is the same way. Nothing fancy but if she lands a blow the fight could be over.

Piranhaconda

To answer your question with a question: What do you think is more important to the writer/animator? Making sure to not spoil you or making sure that you're hooked and sure to come back for the next episode even if that means using spoilers and/or clickbait? Do keep in mind that it is a job after all.

Majoz

i have to say, shipudden really drags lmao

yoshi

Sasori is objectively much stronger than both Granny Chiyo and Sakura as we can tell. I mean bro took down the 3rd Kazekage, putting him at Kage level or above. 1v1 they would get slaughtered but their coordination makes them a good matchup for him, esp with granny chiyo’s knowledge about his arsenal and Sakuras raw power. I mean I consider Kakashi and Naruto stronger than Chiyo and Sakura but if they were to fight Sasori instead, they would get bodied. All about matchups.

Mten10th

If Rock Lee was in this fight, Ron would be all for it, but he has a problem with Sakura holding her own. There was a time skip. Every character has trained during that time skip. Just because Sakura is holding her own, doesn't make Sasori weak. The flashbacks show how she has the ability to be able to read Sasori's attacks and dodge them. The fight isn't even over yet, so why assume how it will end? What is really the problem here?

Mten10th
>>118576962

You're wrong. Chiyo herself said that Sakura didn't need her help.

Elessar
>>118578329

Yeah I was expecting a bigger reaction. That play by Sakura was huge. But it could be because they are still recovering and not feeling well.

Andre
>>118576962

respectfully, i think everyone knows Sasori could beat Chiyo and Sakura if it was just 1v1; he literally took down the 3rd Kazekage. also, fights in this show have never been JUST based on raw ability + strength. plenty of fights we’ve seen were overcome with general knowledge & tactics. it’s not always about who’s stronger, brains and tactics matter too.

luanmartinsgc

These fights are based a lot on skillsets, some of them are stronger than others depending on the enemy, sasori vs gaara, gaara would probably win because the sand would be strong against the puppets, but an enemy that attacks from a distance with agility can neutralize the sand, like Deidara and Rock Lee (classic). Sakura and Chiyo together have a relatively good skillset against Sasori, but against Deidara they would probably lose, you will notice this in the fights against the Akatsuki members.

Mouson

I think you're underestimating Chiyo's experience, not Sakura's. If it were Sakura alone, she'd have been killed in the 1st minute. But Chiyo is a former counselor, accomplished many Ws in previous wars, and survived. It was mentioned in previous episodes that she has more battle experience than Sasori, and it was her the one fighting using Sakura's body. PS: Hope you get better

Dr Kananga

Rons outfits are always on point tho

Scar

We all had to endure the super slow pacing and these dreadful episodesssssssssssss. Hang in there

Michael H
>>118578734

99% of the time, when someone says a character is stronger than another, they mean more powerful. Everyone caught his meaning.

Michael H
>>118578744

Sakura most definitely has not been training with Tsunade as much as Naruto has with Jiraiya. Jiraiya’s sole purpose those two years was to train Naruto (whether he did a good job or not is debatable). Tsunade had an entire village to run during a chaotic time. Training Sakura definitely was a side gig.

Dillon Williams

Title wise... I agree... I don't think they are Spoilers unless you already know and also we went through the same thing so you should experience it the same way to...

WaB_ Bigvai

I can't wait for Monday's episodes!!!!!

Jesse Lopez

Black clover reaction

Thierro

remember she was the one who cured kankuro's poison that time

kirk poss

The only reason these two have a shot against sasori is because granny is a puppet master. She knows how to counter sasori because she taught him. Most people would get destroyed easily. Sakura is pretty strong at this point in the story. If you take a punch from her you're getting KO'd and its also very effective against the iron sand because the magnetism only works against weapons.

Dandara B

I remember when I was a little girl watching this fight. I was mesmerized. I felt so joyful with Sakura having a fight moment of her own and she was rocking it! Then, someone made an edit of the entire fight with a Kelly Clarkson song and posted it on youtube and it was my favorite video of all time. I had watch it every day. With time, I’ve watched many anime and this one fight is still my favorite.

Alex

Nah I'm so serious when I say if you enjoy this that much, I can't wait till you guys get further. In comparison this arc is kinda mid lol. Truly a masterpiece anime😊🔥

Diogo Almeida

Shipudden animation is pretty bad most of times... 😂

Dale Diaz

That was my comment you were talking about! Yeah I think anything that's part of the writer's design is part of the experience

Sweet Tweet

Michelle, remember she taught her medical ninjutsu first then afterwards, she trained her to control her chakra even more to get the monster strength that she has now. So you’re right her hair was short but then it got longer than she must’ve cut it off again when she got a little bit older

Anthony Nguyen

You should get a tiny granny chiyo of when she was trying to attack Kakashi 🤣

jarob vollaire

regarding the episode titles, ron kinda makes a point. but i also think that a lot of the cool stuff that happen in this show (like reveals and powerups) hit way harder when u dont read the titles because then its super unexpected

Sergio Zavala

dam ron dont be a hater ahaha, also its a 2 on 1 with granny that pretty much has been carrying sakura

JojoLasVegas

lord. I forgot how slow paced beginning Shippuden is.

Khalid Arzamendi

The first 2 arcs of shippuden will be slow. But after that, it’s gold.

Christopher Hopwood

sakura isnt strong she has chakra control she sends chakra to her fists to hit harder

Twin Hallow
>>118594937

I think that is still considered her being strong. Chakra is apart of their body. It isnt like she is using technology or something.

Henshinvolt

Episode 24 is based on two chapters which the other episodes are based on two chapters as well.

Rja831

I’m not gonna lie this is one of those anime’s I’d prefer you guys watch in dubbed im not saying it’s bad in subbed it’s just their are some lines that sound so bad ass in dubbed that don’t hit the the same in subbed but their both good.

K

Lol no worries guys the slow part is almost over 😅🤣 your doing great and thank you for continuing the series will your under the weather . I hope you feel better soon 😁🙏

Rja831

I disagree with his point on the titles just cuz I remember the first time I watched the episodes and it was a spoiler title I would be kinda mad cuz I was expecting it the whole episode but that’s just me and not every title is gonna be a spoiler title there’s just certain episodes that are and it’s during big moments but it’s completely up to you guys.

Sam F
>>118597415

To me its the complete opposite, dubbed sounds goofy as fuck and completly ruins the moments also the VAs in english are arguably not good in their delivery and sound robotic

Ron Jackson Jr

bro just wants sakura to lose im dead

Alex

its a mix cannon i think mix with filler .. at that time they had to produce episode every week for the whole year ... other show we have now produce 10 to 20 episode per year ... they need to make a remake of naruto for the future watchers cuz it cant compete with other show now with faster paces ,,, however after the second arc it gets a lot faster ,,, dont worrie guys

g c

Carlitos

Damn Ron is a hater lmaooooooo

LivvyB

I admit, I disliked Sakura in Naruto but this is where I truly started respecting her more, I really saw her growth fighting Sasori! I enjoyed seeing how she started reading his movements and adjusting to his attacks.

Randall Woods Jr

Sakura was always good at controlling chakra ever since Kakashi taught them how to use it to climb trees and walk on water and was a natural better than Naruto and Sasuke. When Sunade teaches her she teaches her to control her chakra even more through medical ninjutsu and then teaches her to use her chakra for strength making her good at taijutsu as well. It’s true most of us agree that Sakura was useless and sometimes still can be definitely don’t like her treatment towards Naruto but her progress is definitely there. Btw at the end I’m not sure if she was poisoned fr or not but she lured Sasori’s puppet in so she can smash it and fight more easily or close kombat.

Carlitos
>>118576962

Without Granny she wouldn’t even know/make it far enough that sasori would have to be out of the other puppet body and all that so yeah she’s want helping her there but for sure would be dead by now without her

yoshi
>>118603566

A remake would be nice but not that necessary. The new-gen shonen don't have anything that comes close to the high points of Naruto, regardless of their faster pacing.

Justin

What is with these two in the 2nd episode? Ron being a Sakura hater and then them both acting like it was a filler. Neither one even reacted to ending of Sakura destroying the puppet. They were too busy hating on the episode to even pay attention. Really weird guys

Justin
>>118578329

They were too busy hating on the episode and Sakura to notice. That moment happened and first thing they say is "Let me see if this was filler" Like wth?

NS
>>118580672

Exactly right. I said this before on a previous video but powerscaling isn't something you can apply in the Naruto world like you can in DBZ or Bleach. It really depends on the match-up and advantages/disadvantages

Leon Sims

ron is gonna have the entire anime universe tatted lmao

Rja831

I’m almost positive all the scenes of guys team fighting are filler someone fact check me tho but I think I remember hearing that a long time ago.

stupeyca

But we all are Sakura haters. lol

Uku Kivisild

I am surprised this the first time you're picking up on the pacing of this arc, it's been slow lol. Like imagine waiting a week to watch a 20 min episode with only 5min of new info/action! But I think the arcs improve exponentially after this. I guess the episode is called Third Kazekage because she defeats him at the end.

SWAGxMAGICIAN

Didn’t even react to Sakura destroying the puppet at the end 💀 Also this episode wasn’t filler, but the Team Guy fights happening against themselves is filler. In the manga, the fights happened but they never showed them. It was done off-screen

Roux
>>118580672

Although Sasori isn't weak by any means, in terms of whats to come regarding the skillsets we are going to see, I wouldn't even label him as a "final boss". It makes perfect sense as to why Chiyo and Sakura can hold their own against Sasori.

Justin
>>118605943

Truth bother you? As someone who pays them I'm very much entitled to voice my thoughts on their reaction. Get lost

Uchiha With Some Gas

damn, i dont remember that this pieck ost played during this goofy fight

Rob

You guys forgot the capital "D" in the "dattebayo ship" tag, so this video did not end up with the other shippuden ones ! :)

Luís

I believe both titles and openings are only spoilers if you make them spoilers, they only show what the writers/producers want you to be thinking about during the episode, not what is actually going to happen. I've seen every title and opening of every anime I've watched for the last 16 years, and I've never felt spoiled.

Gabriel

1:39 it’s good, but for nowadays standards the pacing only aligns perfectly around the 3rd arc, ep 60 something, i guess

Yo Km
>>118605943

bro the epsiode pacing was so slow i dont blame them for reacting like that. this episode has to be one of the worst ep in naruto shippuden.

Federico Carnebale

Yeah these episodes are super slow but the more you watch the more dope it gets

groudonvert
>>118608190

Not really. 21 was a hyped one for me and 22-23 was a 40 minutes special at that time.

groudonvert

I don't where it comes from (it was a while back now), but Sasori was considered at that time as the 4th strongest Akatsuki member and Itachi the 3rd. But that was at a point where power creep wasn't a deal yet, Even then, Sasori tends to be a bit underestimated nowadays when he's actually crazy strong.

Gabriel
>>118608190

at the time this kind of pacing was normal, you only get this feeling now, because of the newer animes coming out

Gabriel

it still amuses me to this day how much people underestimate sakura

botanbutton
>>118580672

This This This This This This. Skillsets matter. Experience matters. Battle IQ matters. Analytical skills matter. Hell, even luck matters!

botanbutton

Yeah, the pacing is painful since they have to drag it out. Didn't wanna catch up to the manga cause it was preeeettttttty close. If they didn't do this, they wouldn't have any canon material to work with, at all. It's pretty hellish, lol.

Mten10th
>>118603756

Welcome to the club where people call a character useless because people are too simple minded to appreciate character growth unless they have a lot of fight scenes.

LordoftheCast13

Like a lot of people have said, the pacing (in episode 24 in particular) is REALLY slow, and an intentional use of “padding” on the creators part I believe so as not to catch up to the manga when this first aired. The Team Guy “clone” fights are all padding, and it really sucks that they use them to parse 2 amazing fights, but I understand why they did it back then…

LordoftheCast13

Also, would it all be possible for y’all to do a triple drop reaction to episodes 25, 26 and 27??👀 I personally feel watching those three episodes back-to-back-to-back makes for the best experience, but completely understand if you can’t 😁

LordoftheCast13
>>118597415

VA-wise they both are nearly on par in my mind. I prefer some subbed VA’s over dubbed and some dubbed VA’s over subbed, but where the argument for dubbed imo can really be made is in the phrasing. The dialogue when it’s translated from Japanese to English in the subbed at times can feel too formal/antiquated, and it’s true that the dubbed has some of the best lines/quotes that lose their impact in their subbed translation.

g c
>>118603756

Let me not get into this before they read it and get spoiled but I don’t know what Naruto you have watched but it’s not this one lol

Juan Jose

Can't stand the Sakura hate tbh lol. Makes the reaction not enjoyable 😐 But still watching.

Cody Wild
>>118578744

Jaraiya was actually looking into Orochimaru and the Akatski. Training/guarding Naruto was a side gig. Naruto and Jaraiya were traveling mostly, whereas Sakura and Tsuna were in one place. It’s like trying to react to videos while on vacation vs while home.

Antwoin White

Everyone know Sakura useless and annoying

Danny Danh

I mean to be fair with Sakura she's not supposed to be a combative type, like she does deal heavy damage but her combat prowess and skills aren't her strong suit, she's trained to be a medical ninja first most. It's basically a healer in a videogame, healers in videogames can deal damage and some actually are good at it but they will never out perform someone who actually specializes into dealing damage, so healers would switch their focus into defense and support. Either than that I don't like her as a character either since her personality doesn't appeal to me and I want to watch someone get sent flying into 4 mountains, not 2 episodes of dodging and trying to get that 1 lucky punch in LMAO

Overbyte

*Granny Chiyo anytime on screen since the beginning of the fight* Ron: DIE!!!! >:o

Envy

Clearly she's not strong enough to defeat sasori thats why granny has been helping her. Sakura woulda have alr got killed if it werent't for granny. Sakura indeed has powerful strength and with granny's help she can continue going toe to toe with sasori

To To

Ron my god of course she’s not strong enough for sasori but it’s 2v1 and there is a bit of strategy can’t your read ?! A smart strategy can beat big strength it’s not all about strength and rank and experiences

Gotham’s Saviour
>>118579321

If u think Naruto Shippuden really drags then good luck for when u watch One Piece 🤣😭 unless you already have

Gotham’s Saviour
>>118580672

Off topic but looking at your pfp makes me miss Yu Yu Hakusho even more and want to revisit the anime

Bungkai
>>118577001

You react to what you see. Let them have their own reaction instead of trying to influence their opinions

RorotheShadow
>>118577001

I never tried to influence their opinion, I just said why I think it's the reason why many in the Naruto fandom in general think Sakura is useless or weak. It was just my opinion

Bungkai
>>118690757

not everyone is obligated to like your favourite characters

Arz.09
>>118576962

are u slow? she didnt need her help to dodge 1 attack not in general.

Zenru Renari

BTW, Narutos pacing is very slow. So many more eps in the future are gonna feel like this where it feels extremely slow. Filler eps have NOTHING to do with the canaon storyline. Ex, Had we been watching the Granny chiyo n Sakur and sasori fight and then next episode we have the whole gang at the village having a birthday party then that would be a filler. Fillers are drastically obvious and hard to miss.

GD LoreRiley

Ron in terms of trusting anime studios to not spoil is wrong. Back in the day anime was meant for manga readers so they didnt care about spoilers in titles and openings because the majority already read it

Phyllis

Naruto pacing can be slow. The old days~ Your reaction to the repeated word scenes are funny. Sometimes when there repeats is because there was commercial breaks in between. You don't see it since those have been cut out. Anyway, Sakura may have been weak but keep in mind that she was personally trained one on one by Tsunade, one of the Legendary Sannin, reputed to be one of the world's most powerful and strongest kunoichi in ninja history, a remarkable combatant and medical-nin. That flashback of their training was how Tsunade first started training Sakura in combat as a medical ninja. She may not be strong alone but she has Granny Chiyo who is also a legend herself. Sasori may be strong and part of the Akatsuki but the young ones are always growing and becoming stronger.

Elessar
>>118578734

Considering the comment I replied to said, "this fight shows Sakura way stronger than she is," and the main thing she did was punch things, I believe we can deduce he was talking about her physical strength.

Justin Moore

I don't know if we are watching the same series...

Antonio Ricardo
>>118690757

he's not really hating tbh he's just wondering if she is even strong enough to beat sasori

KINGxRED248

the studios assume if your watching the anime then you've for sure read the manga so in their mind its not spoiling..and you also have to consider the fact that these japanese companies dont give a damn about anyone outside of japan..the titles and intros get really bad later on unless you want to ruin major plot points and fights you should heed our advise

JMk24
>>118690757

Sakura is trash and will forever be trash lol. Naruto shippuden could’ve still been a great series either without her tbh.

JMk24
>>118761406

Naw Sakura and chiyo shouldn’t have won this shit. Yeah chiyo knew some of his moves but there was also times she said he was different and sasori didn’t even pull out those different moves. You telling me someone that killed the most powerful kazekage by himself and destroyed an entire nation would struggle with chiyo and sakura? Plot armor saved sakura she should’ve been minced meat for sasori.

JMk24
>>118709788

Facts sakura is still til this day 1 of the most hated anime character and I see why she annoying asf she had no reason winning against sasori don’t care if she had chiyo. Sasori is leagues above both of them but you know plot armor is undefeated.

JMk24
>>118761005

No chiyo sakura wouldve been dead in 2 seconds flat. Can’t believe someone that killed the most powerful kazekage in his prime by himself would struggle with sakura and chiyo. lol plot armor is undefeated.

Alex

Its episodes like this that make me rate bleach over naruto, well, that and the drip. Bleach is definitely the drippiest shonen.