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Jaws - Patreon Version (Patreon)

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2021-11-04 13:12:21
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Paul Davey

The story about the USS Indianapolis sinking during WWII with sailors being taken by sharks wasn't inspired by anything. Sadly, it's a true story where 150 sailors were killed.

Raven Dark

I'm not normally a fan of monster films, or horror films, but this one is an exception. I love Jaws. I know that some people don't classify Jaws as a horror film, and I'm not sure I do either, but the movie definitely has elements of horror. I agree, it's not fair to call the shark (or sharks in general) monsters, but George isn't entirely wrong in calling this film a monster movie. The film is constructed as one, and the story is told as one, hitting many of the classic tropes of monster films. This was a fabulous reaction to a film that is so much of a classic that the word doesn't do it justice. There is so much fun trivia and interesting facts about this movie, no one could cover half of it in a comment without it being a novel, but I want to give you my favorite tidbits here. This might be a long one. The shark that was used in the film (the animatronic one used to play Jaws) was in fact mostly in parts that were shown one at a time, rather than a single large piece. For example, where you see only the shark's head and part of the body, the machinery used for those shots was only a head. There were men under it, moving it around, and there was no body. In the shots where you see the shark's body from above, there was only a top portion. Where you saw a portion of the body from the side, there was only that portion, with men making it move. The shots were always done so that the shark looked like a whole shark, with the rest of the body out of frame but it wasn't. The shark was in pieces because they couldn't build a single whole shark and make it work properly. The shark was given the nickname Bruce. If I remember correctly, Spielberg named the shark after his lawyer. Did you guys notice how little you see of the shark? You don't see him at all for the first half of the film. Instead, they show us shots from the shark's POV. This was masterful storytelling to me, because not seeing Jaws made it more scary, but here's the funny thing. The crew had so many problems with getting the shark to work properly without it looking fake that Spielberg had to show Jaws as little as possible. (one of the reasons for the mechanical problems was that the salt in the water kept corroding the parts.) That's why he decided not to show the shark for so much of the film. It's ironic that this is one of the very things that makes the movie so scary and turned it into such a classic. Here's one of the things I find hilarious about the issues the crew had with the shark itself. In a special on the making of the film, the crew and actors talk about how there were so many issues that you'd constantly hear the crew yelling out, "The shark is not working. The shark is not working." It was so much of a thing that there is a television special and a book about the making of Jaws entitled, "The Shark Is Not Working."

Raven Dark

Oops, I hit enter before I finished. When I try to edit, Patreon has a habit of eating comments, so here's a few more bits of trivia for you. George is correct, this movie was a logistical nightmare to make. (He's also right that Waterworld was too, but that's another story). The movie went massively over budget and months over its due date, and if I recall correctly, Spielberg almost went broke making this movie. There were a lot of reasons for this, and only one of them was the mechanical issues with Bruce. Spielberg has talked about how there are two known cardinal things you never do in cinema--never make a movie with kids, and never film at sea. He made movies with kids all the time, and has proven that he can do it well, but when he insisted on filming Jaws mostly on the ocean, the production company freaked and tried to get him not to do it. This is because Filming at sea caused the boats they were using to have problems and one of them almost sank. When filming, boats kept passing into the shot, slow ones that they would have to wait to pass out of camera. By the time one boat passed, another would crawl into shot. Things like this cost a lot of lost time and money. Spielberg wanted the movie to look authentic, like it was really on the ocean, so he filmed there anyway. Which is why the movie looks so good. In the scene where Chief Brody and Hooper were at the dinner table talking about cutting the tiger shark open, Brody's wife mentioned why he's so afraid of the water, but I'm not sure you guys caught it. I had to rewind in order to make sure I heard it right. His wife said to Hooper that he almost drowned as a child. George mentioned a few times how Quinn came across as if he was drunk a lot, and how he played being drunk so well. This is because Robert Shaw was at least a little inebriated often during filming. He was notorious for arriving on scene drunk. It happened so often, and he became so rude and biligerent so frequently that he and Richard Dryfuss got into a lot of arguments, once almost coming to blows. In the scene on the boat when he talks about The Indianapolous, Robert Shaw was three sheets to the wind for real. He refused to do the scene sober, since Quinn was supposed to be drunk at the time. Remember the scene where the boy's mother slaps Chief Brody? The actress who played her has said that for years, men who recognized her would come up to her and ask her to slap them. She got a big kick out of it. It made laugh when George mentioned the scene with Brody and his son at the table, where his son was copying him. George said what if the actor who played the boy was doing that for real and the cameras were kept rolling. According to one of the specials I saw, this is exactly what happened. While they were not shooting a scene, the boy sat down at the table with him and started imitating him. Spielberg thought it looked so good that he rolled camera. He filmed them without them knowing it and kept it in the film. During the scene at the start, when the Crissy is being pulled around by the shark and she's screaming, there were two ropes tied around her waist, a man on the end of each, one pulling her one way, the other pulling her in the opposite direction. That's how they got that back and forth motion. Apparently, them doing that scared her so badly that she started screaming. The screams you hear in the movie and her terrified look, are real. She wasn't in any real danger, as there was a man under her ready to help her if she went under or started to drawn, but knowing that she was really that afraid is still scary as hell. I feel bad that Simone hurt her shoulder while watching that one scary scene, and that she almost threw up when Quinn was getting eaten, but it made for a great reaction. LOL I hope her shoulder is okay. Oh, yeah, one more thing. The part where the head popped out of the hole in the boat. Apparently, Spielberg did that purely because he wanted to get one more jump scare out of the audience. :D Guess it worked. I've seen footage in specials where the audiences in theatres sat in their seats screaming through this movie. Whole theaters with them shrieking in terror. One of the producers or actors or something talks about how he went to a screening and during a scary part, he ran out of the theater throwing up. Spielberg said that's how he knew he had a good film on his hands. I wonder if it was the scene with the head popping out. LMAO Again, great reaction, guys. One of your best. I'll be coming back for a rewatch for sure. Thanks for this one.

Joe D. MacGuffinstuff

This film was based on a novel which was inspired by Herman Melville's "Moby Dick", that's kind of why you get this sort of adventure music and vibe when they first start hunting the shark. Also why Quint has a very Ahab like obsessive quality to him. What's really crazy is Moby Dick was actually based on a true story, of the Essex. The whole story is insane but to sum up, basically the Essex was a whaling ship that was sunk by a huge bull sperm whale. While there were many instances of whales fighting back, they would only ever attack the smaller boats that would try to harpoon and kill the whale. This whale though, figured out that the smaller boats were coming from the main ship and that's what he attacked and sank. The sailors were forced to survive in the three small boats and that's a whole other story that involves some pretty gruesome details. The survivors claimed that the whale displayed a preternatural intelligence and attacked like he had a personal score to settle, and although he stopped attacking after the main ship sank he followed the smaller boats for days. Herman Melville, who worked as a whaler for a time, heard the story and based his novel on it.

Texas Anla'Shok

The first part of the movie John Williams scored like a horror film. The second part, he made it more like a swashbuckling pirate adventure.

OkieBoomer

The reporter on the beach is Peter Benchley, the author of "Jaws".

thescourge

If you watch the USS Indianapolis speech again and recall all the shark jaws covering the walls in his shop you’ll figure out why he broke the radio unit and why he was acting so erratically; pushing the boat too hard etc. Serious PTSD. He REEEEEEEAALLY hates sharks.

Paul Davey

The shower/knife scene movie music you were thinking of is Alfred Hitchcock's 1960 movie Psycho, which is loosely inspired in part by serial killer Ed Gein. Psycho is a classic that's definitely worth watching for anyone who likes old movies. Alternatively there's a not too bad movie starring Anthony Hopkins, Helen Mirren and Scarlett Johansson called Hitchcock, which is about the making of Psycho.