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Fireside Chats, Episode 55: The End of America (and Other Questions) (Patreon)

Published:
2018-09-19 16:00:02
Edited:
2019-01-08 23:48:08
Imported:
2022-01

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It was only a few months ago that I had US Navy Lieutenant Michael Autery on Fireside Chats. I liked our conversation about the Constitution so much that I invited him back to the show for a game of Five Questions, all surrounding American history and politics. Is American Exceptionalism real? How would he amend the Constitution if he could? America's greatest President was...? Is anything going right in America? And the big one: How will America ultimately end? We cover all of these questions (and more) in a deep back-and-forth.

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Marcus Brown

Can't wait to listen.

Mikey

If y'all are interested in part 2 of this conversation on the Unalienable podcast, you can find it here. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/21514098">https://www.patreon.com/posts/21514098</a> You don't have to subscribe to listen!

Matthew Perry

Have been on Joe Rogan binge since seeing you are on that !!but will put this podcast on when I drive home tonight !!

Anonymous

I appreciate guests like these. It's a solid substitute for the lack of CLS Prime. Fireside Chats has easily become my favorite product of yours.

James Galos

Living in looney California with fantasy trains and mythical taxes it’s good to hear real people talk about how to make progress on problems that effect all of us. Also the mocking of both sides being ridiculous is appreciated.

Edwin Garcia

Nice episode, I love American History / political talk :)

Kenny Gutzler

Loved having this guy back on here for another round. Let us know when round 3 happens, whether on home turf or away turf.

Andrew

haven’t listened yet but intend to when I have the free time, but I will throw my 2 cents from the description. The constitution will change maybe not in my lifetime but in my sons. And that’s because the people give it the power. South Africa changed theirs a while ago to give power to certain groups. <a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-africa-45026931" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-africa-45026931</a> Cheers you guys. Loved the last talk

LastStandMedia
>>15630171

Hope you enjoy this episode. Because of how hard it is to change any portion of the Constitution, I highly doubt any major changes will be forthcoming in anyone's lives, frankly. LOL.

Andrew

aha we will see Colin.

Ryan Taylor

So glad Michael is back! Loved the first episode and this one is no different!

Chris B

These kind of chats are refreshing during the absence CLS Prime. Now to find his podcast and add it to the rotation.

Mikey
>>15632984

Great idea!!! LOL. It's really good in my completely unbiased opinion...

Kevin Sullivan

I love hearing the two of you speak about the Constitution. I hope we hear more of this in the future.

Brevin Savage

This is a great episode Colin

Mikey
>>15635722

Thanks Kevin! You can hear the rest of our conversation for free on my patreon page.

Mikey
>>15635722

otherwise it'll be out in a week on the rest of the podcast apps.

Chad Lewis

My favorite guest of the show. Fantastic dialogue and chemistry between the two of you.

Joey Finelli

Birthright citizenship is a curse.

Barrett Boswell

Thanks for another thought provoking episode with a great guest.

desperateLuck

I thought the whole "fear of an unchecked China" thing was kind of weird.., I don't see why we have any more right to control the seas/world then they do, especially around their own country. I see China and America existing in a very synergistic way, especially in the increasingly globalistic future.

Mikey
>>15656256

My point is that the entire world enjoys freedom of the seas because of the US Navy. This has never been the case in human history until the last 50 years or so. Before we took the watch, merchants from every country could be molested by any country they crossed nearby or by pirates. I think there's a good argument to be made that we should mind our own business and not police the seas. I'm just trying to point out that if China has control of a significant portion of the worlds sea lanes, it would be foolish to think that they (a communist totalitarian regime) would be as egalitarian about the right of all people to use those sea lanes. The entire world economy benefits from freedom of the seas. If China controls the seas, or even a portion of the seas, that would not be the case. The world is only as globalistic as it is because of the immense trade that can happen with freedom of the seas. China wants to become the global leader. If you think a world with China behind the wheel will be nearly as free and peaceful as a world with A

Mikey
>>15656256

...America behind the wheel, you're wrong. Right now the world is led by a country founded on the basic principles of liberty, equality, and self determination. If China takes the lead, the world will be led by a country founded on total authority, coercion, and force and which has no respect for human dignity. There's no way that works out well.

Mikey
>>15649244

Wow! That's so nice of you to say. Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

LastStandMedia
>>15653545

Dunno about that, but it's certainly something the US does that virtually no other western country does.

desperateLuck
>>15656256

Yeah, I see where you are coming from. I think I'm just a lot more optimistic (perhaps naively so) about the current and future China. I just don't see how a increasingly wealthy, educated, and liberalized people wouldn't eventually have a government and policy to reflect them.

Mikey
>>15656256

That would be the best outcome we can hope for. A liberalization of the Chinese people and government. I'd love it if we could be partners and share the burden of keeping the world safe, but that only works if their values and ours aren't in complete contrast like they are now. Even though I'm pessimistic, I never want to abandon efforts to make friends with China. We still need to "carry a big stick," in case we can't make friends, but diplomacy is our best hope. The last thing we want is another cold war with two very powerful sides that can't find common ground.

Tyson Williams

Wow he really perfectly put into words why I am grateful of being born in America and taught the values we hold. I don’t think I’m better than everyone else because I’m American I just cherish the American values of freedom and what not. In fact some of the immigrants I know cherish the American values a lot more than most of my peers that are from here, and I find a kindred spirit with those immigrants because we have a lot in common and appreciate the same things. Also I love experiencing their culture and appreciating what came from that culture and I’m happy they came here so I could befriend them and enrich each other’s lives

Mikey
>>15727015

So well said Tyson! I'm glad you liked it. Sometimes I babble a bit, so I'm glad it came off well.

Ryan Cook

You guys touched on this broadly, but I'm both terrified and fascinated by how the population at large apparently ignores the effects consolidation of power into the Executive has had on this country. Trump derangement syndrome seems almost entirely a product of this, since many of the fears people have of him stem from him having access to powers that both parties have been complicit in willfully ceding to his office. Trump is the best example yet of how a too powerful Executive can go sideways, and yet, the goal of the opposition is simply to make sure they get THEIR guy in next. I'm convinced there's something primal on us all that is just longing for a pie in the sky benevolent dictator.

Carrie Andrews

re: 26:00 I find it really interesting that incumbent status is actually indicated on your ballots at the federal (and I'm guessing state as well?) level. That does perhaps help explain to me, at least partially, why incumbent re-election is so high for the U.S. congress despite such low approval ratings for congress as a whole for what, the last decade or so. In Canada both federal and provincial ballots will indicate only name and party affiliation for all candidates.

LastStandMedia
>>15727015

I agree, in so far as it's the system that makes us special, not us as natural born individuals.

LastStandMedia
>>15834436

I think I've said before that I'd love to see a POTUS elected that actively rolls back his or her own powers to set new precedents moving forward. Fat chance, but you never know.

LastStandMedia
>>15878721

That could be, though I also just think it's name recognition. A lot of people just don't care, and those that do are obviously motivated politically to go to the polls.