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Anonymous

The interesting part of Market Garden, is that the US and Britain were so eager to show off the capability of their new paratrooper divisions, but General Patton kept advancing into German occupied territory so fast that he kept getting to their drop zones before the paratroopers could drop. They literally had to tell Patton to stop beating the Germans back so fast so Britain and the US could use their paratrooper divisions. They ended up biting off more than they could chew. By the time the Germans knew the Americans and British were jumping into Holland, they had time to set ambushes like the one you saw here.

Anonymous

Another fun fact, the German high command would give German troops chocolate that secretly had meth in it to make them fight longer and harder through the night. They called it "Panzerschokolade"

dabbingcannasseur

Not just the Germans, pretty much every major army had their soldiers all jacked up on some sort of amphetamines. Our bomber pilots especially were loaded up with plenty of 'go pills' to make it through their long flights.

Catherine LW

I’ve read a lot of WWII history books by authoritative historians like Max Hastings, Ian Toll, and Victor Davis Hanson. None ever mentioned anything about the Allies giving methamphetamines to their troops. Where did you get that from?

tkitez

https://direct.mit.edu/jinh/article-abstract/42/2/205/50354/ It wasn't really a stigmatized drug before, during, and just after WWII, but the allies didn't rely upon it as the Germans did. Hell, OTC diet pills had meth in them in the 40s/50s. Germans had a taste for it due to their dwindling supply lines and reliance upon superior training of their forces; this obviously was a failure as the Americans'/allies ability to project their ad-hoc infrastructure throughout the war simply overwhelmed the increasingly isolated axis powers in Europe. And when the training regime broke down later in the war, and the Nazis were using conscripts that were barely teenagers or otherwise compromised, the rate of casualties for the Germans increased to an unsustainable level compared to the freshly trained/deployed troops of the allies. If you lose two men to the Germans' one, it is an acceptable loss that will eventually go in your favor due to equipment, rations, supplies, et cetera, being flooded into the European theatre that the Germans simply cannot match given their increasingly limited sources of raw materials/etc.

Catherine LW

Well, not everyone. The “documentary” is a bit sensationalistic. Ordering half a million Benzedrine pills by the US military isn’t enough for “everyone”, since we had 10 million servicemen deployed around the world. It was probably for pilots. Plus some of the footage they used on shell shock was from WWI. I don’t base conclusions on just tv documentaries. Hard history books are the best sources.

Catherine LW

I wish I could read the article but it’s restricted. And yes, it’s misleading to pretend it was some kind of major scandal.

Catherine LW

Plus they made a big deal about the German Army covering 20 miles a day. Julius Caesar was famous for his speed, as he marched his Roman Army 40 miles a day.

tkitez

If you're talking about the scholarly article, sorry about that; here's a copy of it: https://file.io/ae82FBSpSInw

dabbingcannasseur

I mean, remember back in 2002 when the Air National Guard guys were all hopped up on Dexadrine in an F-16 and killed 4 friendly troops? Drugging up soldiers has literally been common throughout most of human history haha. https://archive.ph/20121212032952/http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123007615 '“Fatigue from sustained operations can place pilots at severe risk from (decreased alertness) unless effective fatigue-management strategies are (used)” said Dr. John Caldwell, a scientist with the Air Force Research Laboratory’s fatigue countermeasures branch here. One strategy involves using medications to enhance alertness. For more than 60 years, dextroamphetamine was the Air Force’s “go pill” of choice. In December, a new compound, modafinil, was approved for some bomber missions, he said.' More than 60 years of use. It's fun to pretend it was just evil Nazi's on drugs, but it's just completely false. An argument could be made that they consumed a lot more drugs, but again, they weren't alone.

Jim Finley

The Dutch people in Eindhovern, and the resdt of Holland, were overjoyed to be liberated. The Nazis had been taking their men to Germany as slave labor, deporting the Jews to death camps, and taking almost all the food - a lot of the Dutch were suffering from severe malnutrition by then. The Germans were trying to inflict as much suffering as they could on the people of Eindhoven as punishment for celebrating their liberation - that's why they bombed the town, even though they knew they wouldn't be fighting there again. Along those same lines, when the Germans had to retreat from Paris, Hitler gave orders for the entire city to be burned. The German general in charge in Paris disobeyed that order because he thought it was vicious and barbaric, as it was.

Lina Distadio

They also just gave the German soldiers not-so-secret meth. They just gave them straight-up meth pills called Pervitin.