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A/N: In which the truth comes out.

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“I was there the moment you were conceived; you know.”

… What? Rognak blinks, staring at the Forest Demigod. Of all of the things that he thought might have been about to come out of Cenarius’ mouth, that was most definitely not it. Not only that… the sentence made no sense. What did Cenarius MEAN he was there when Rognak was conceived?!

Sure, Rognak had been born on Azeroth just as Thrall did, but he assumed he’d been conceived on Draenor, right? Unless he was younger than Thrall by a good nine to eleven months. Oh, he sure hoped not. Honestly, he only had the opening of the Dark Portal to go off of when it came to his age. He might not even be a full twenty. It was entirely possible he was nineteen or-

A deep chuckle pulls Rognak out of his thoughts and he blinks, looking up to find that the Lord of the Forest is no longer looming over him quite like he was before. Instead, Cenarius has pulled back and the corner of his mouth has quirked up. Presumably because of the increasingly baffled and panicked look that had spread across Rognak’s face at the Demigod’s words. Cenarius was messing with him. But then, to what end?

“You misunderstand me, young druid. I do not speak of the day that your mother and father procreated in order to make you. No, rather… I speak of the moment where the idea of your very existence was conceived at a gathering of my peers.”

Oh. Well that just blew his mind in a whole new way. Rognak’s mouth opens… and then closes a moment later. Quite frankly, he has no clue what to say to that. What was Cenarius talking about? In the end… he simply had to ask, didn’t he?

“Can you… can you explain? What do you mean the idea of my existence?”

Obviously, Rognak knew he was an anomaly. It was kind of hard not to, when he had a second set of memories that treated this very real world he’d spent two decades growing up in as nothing more than a video game. But Cenarius… Cenarius was implying that he’d had a hand in Rognak’s creation? That he KNEW Rognak was an anomaly?

“An outsider came to us, not to long ago. Just before you were born as a matter of fact. He gathered up myself, my mother, and the other Wild Gods, as well as the more… reasonable of the Troll Loa. He brought us together and showed us many things. He showed us how things would go without interference. And then he showed us glimpses of what COULD be… with a little nudge in the right direction.”

Rognak soaks that in… and realizes that Cenarius is no longer implying anything. He’s outright stating it now, isn’t he? As the young orc grapples with Cenarius’ confession, the Lord of the Forest continues his explanation.

“I don’t know everything that he showed the others. Some have kept their… revelations from this outsider close to their chest. Some have shared, but most have not. For me, he showed me my death… at the hands of your former Chieftain.”

Rognak’s breath hitches at that and Cenarius smiles and nods.

“Yes. I know that I was supposed to die by that very axe you carry with you now, wielded by a Grommash Hellscream empowered by twice-drunk demon blood. I know that you stopped that from happening, Rognak. I know that you saved my life.”

Well. Shit. On the one hand… that did explain why Cenarius had been at the edge of Ashenvale Forest just waiting for the Warsong Clan instead of deeper into the woods where Rognak’s other set of memories claimed he should have been. But on the other hand… Rognak frowns and his brow furrows.

“Did I truly save your life if you already knew how to avoid your initial death?”

Cenarius hums at that, bowing his head in acknowledgment of Rognak’s poignant question. It was a good point, or at least the orc felt it was. But in the end, the Forest Demigod then shakes his head.

“It was a condition that the outsider set forth before us, young druid. If we agreed to his terms, we kept what he shared with us. If we did not, he would take it all away again. So no matter how you look at it… you did in fact save me. Truly.”

Rognak lets out a shuddering breath at that, still struggling to wrap his head around everything. But then, something in the back of his mind whispers that it all makes sense. The vast majority of his second set of memories have always been about this world and the ‘video game series’ set in it. But Rognak is aware that whoever he used to be had another life outside of just playing said video game series. Something about all of this feels quite familiar, now that Cenarius is spelling it out for him so succinctly.

“In exchange for the secrets he shared with us, he asked in return that we bless you with power. That we take a single orc babe, born in the midst of the Orcish Horde’s invasion, and empower you with a connection to Nature itself.”

It takes a second for that to truly seep into his fuzzy mind. And then it does and Rognak’s eyes snap wide open as he stares at Cenarius, mouth agape.

“All of you?”

Here, Cenarius’ half-smile becomes a little wider as he nods.

“Indeed, young druid. All of us. You wondered why it was so easy for you to utilize your connection with Nature? Why you have always been a natural druid, where your fellow orcs struggle with even the most basic concepts? That is the answer. You are blessed by the Wild Gods of Azeroth. Every Ancient Guardian not lost to corruption or death tied themselves to you at the outsider’s bidding. We chose to be your patrons, and to grant you the gifts that you now wield in defense of this world and life itself.”

This… this explained much. Maybe not everything, but certainly a lot. And yet, it was also a lot to take in, quite frankly. He needs to sit down. And even though he’s in front of a Demigod and knows he shouldn’t… Rognak collapses to his backside with a thump, his ass hitting the forest floor as he rests his hands on his knees and just… thinks for a long moment.

Cenarius falls quiet, allowing him to process what he’s just been told. But in that ensuing silence, Rognak finds himself circling back to one particular question over and over again.

“Why… why are you telling me this now?”

For a long moment, the Lord of the Forest doesn’t speak. When Rognak finally looks up at him, the smile has dropped entirely from the ancient being’s face and he looks quite solemn.

“… The outsider showed me much to convince me of his plan. He showed me my death and some of what would come after. How Mannoroth would sweep up the orcs who killed me. How it would make it so very difficult for the Night Elves to accept an alliance with the Horde and the humans when the time came to unite against the Burning Legion. And… how even if they succeeded in the end, there would never be peace on Kalimdor, all because of that terrible first encounter between the Night Elf and Orcish People.”

Rognak slowly nods along with that, wondering where Cenarius is going with this. Luckily, he doesn’t have to wonder for long.

“What the outsider did not show me was the consequences of my choice. In creating you and ensuring my survival, I doomed my first student, Malfurion Stormrage, to the slow demise that he now suffers in the Emerald Dream.”

… Oh. Right. Rognak winces as he realizes just why Cenarius looks so grave. The Demigod glances off to the side, staring off into the forest for a long moment before sighing.

“I wonder if I would have agreed to the outsider’s plan if I had known it would lead to Malfurion’s death. My death in this world would not have been as… final as Malfurion’s will be. I know this. If it were just a simple trade, my life for his, I would gladly make it a thousand times over. And yet… and yet.”

Rognak’s heart goes out to the Lord of the Forest. Even as he’s still struggling to wrap his head around everything he’s been told, he feels Cenarius’ grief quite poignantly. Still… he’d known somehow, deep down inside, that he had a ‘benefactor’, but he’d had no idea they’d worked together with beings like Cenarius and the Wild Gods to create him. And not just them… Cenarius had mentioned his mother. Elune herself had signed off on Rognak’s creation. Wow.

“In the end, I know that this is the better path. As much as it pains me to admit it, as much as I would never knowingly pay it… the fact is, the price has already been paid. Your neophytes will become a force for good, Rognak… and once we throw the Burning Legion off of this world once and for all, things between the orcs and the Night Elves will settle into something approaching harmony. Together, you and I shall make sure of it.”

His voice is so confident, so certain, that Rognak can’t help but spring to his feet, suddenly revitalized by Cenarius’ conviction. He nods his head in determination, his hands closing into fists at his sides.

“Yes sir. Together, we’ll make sure that none of it comes to pass as it would have.”

Only too late does he realize he might have said too much as the Forest Lord looks at him slightly amused.

“I had wondered. Tell me, young Rognak… how much did the outsider give you?”

Flushing, Rognak ducks his head for a moment, considering lying for all of a heartbeat before tossing that aside.

“… Much, sir. He gave me quite a lot. I know things I shouldn’t. Secrets I shouldn’t. I-!”

Before he can come clean, Cenarius cuts him off.

“You manipulated me into releasing Illidan Stormrage for this opportunity to kill the Death Knight Arthas, didn’t you?”

Rognak freezes, half-expecting Cenarius to strike him down right then and there. When he doesn’t, the young orc just slowly nods, wordlessly admitting it.

“I thought as much. You were not as subtle as you thought yourself to be, my young friend. I knew not of the true nature of your plan, but I could tell from the start that you wanted Illidan free most of all.”

Grimacing, Rognak waves a hand at the pile of ash nearby. All that’s left of the Demon Hunter in question.

“It was never my intention that Illidan die. I underestimated just how dangerous Arthas was to him. But… yes. I knew, from things that the one you call ‘the outsider’ made me aware of, that this was our one opportunity to end the threat Arthas could one day pose. And… I took it. I’m not sorry that we managed to slay Arthas. I knew what he would become if he didn’t die here and now. But I am sorry that I lied to you… and that it cost Illidan his life.”

Cenarius hums again, nodding along. For a moment, they both stare at the ashes. In the end though, Rognak can’t keep quiet. He now has a new question pricking at his mind, demanding an answer.

“… Why aren’t you angrier with me for my deception?”

Turning his head, the Forest Demigod smirks slightly as he side-eyes the young orc.

“Perhaps because it would be rather hypocritical of me to do so, young one. After all, I am guilty of the exact same thing. Did you not think I knew what I was sending you and your orcs to do when I set you on the quest to destroy that corrupted pool of Mannoroth’s blood? Did you think I didn’t know the Pit Lord would be lurking in the shadows just waiting for his chance to strike? I manipulated you and your warriors into a battle that you almost certainly could not have won without my assistance. For that, I apologize.”

Rognak blinks dumbly. On the one hand, he sort of had known that. On the other hand, he wasn’t used to god-like beings such as a Demigod acting so… down to earth and chill. Cenarius had even apologized to him!

“… Err, I guess we’re even then?”

Cenarius snorts at his uncertain tone, before placing a hand of branch-like fingers down on Rognak’s shoulder.

“Indeed. We are ‘even’ as you put it. But… young Rognak. We both must work harder than ever to make sure it continues to be worth it. That all of the sacrifices, all of the consequences of our choices… continue to mean something going into the future. Malfurion is lost to us. As is Illidan. We must make sure that their deaths matter. And from now on, no more secrets between us, hm? We shall be co-conspirators for the outsider’s will, I suppose.”

“Aye. Co-conspirators.”

It’s an easy enough promise to make. He’d already promised himself that he would make it all matter, after all. Though as he and Cenarius stand there, a thought suddenly strikes Rognak and before he can second guess himself, he blurts it out.

“You should probably know that Fandral Staghelm is probably a servant of the Nightmare Lord at this point in time, and they have designs on both the Night Elf people and the Emerald Dream.”

Beside him, Rognak feels Cenarius go absolutely still. The Lord of the Forest freezes in what can only be described as complete and total surprise. Yeah, so whatever the ‘outsider’ told Cenarius, it didn’t include that bit. Good to know. Though to be fair, it sounded like Rognak knew a hell of a lot more than any of the Wild Gods, Cenarius included, got to know. Good thing he was their Champion or whatever, he supposed. He’d be sure to put all of his knowledge to good use… as best as he possibly could, anyways.

Finally, Cenarius exhales slowly.

“… Will this be a problem before the Legion is expelled from our world once more?”

Rognak winces but shakes his head.

“No.”

“… Then we shall shelve it for now. Is there anything in the more immediate that you can think of?”

It takes him only a second to remember something he’d thought about earlier, something that would no longer happen as a result of Illidan’s death.

“The dreadlord that the Death Knight spoke of, Tichondrius and his Skull of Gul’dan. Illidan, if he was still alive, would have been the one to deal with both. Now that he’s gone…”

Rognak trails off, not having to finish the sentence. Cenarius grunts and removes his hand from the orc’s shoulder.

“Hm. Then it would seem we know what we must do next. Tichondrius and this Skull must be dealt with. The Defiler’s forces must be as weakened as they possibly can be before the final battle. Even if Illidan is lost to us… we shall just have to take his place.”

That was almost exactly what Rognak had thought too, so he just nods along and follows the Lord of the Forest out of the clearing. Surprisingly, his steps are much lighter than before. He understands so much more now. Of his existence… and of his purpose.

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A/N: So for anyone who's still confused, it's something of a running theme that my SIs aren't put in their worlds by ROBs, but by a very specific Omnipotent Being. Namely, an Omnipotent version of myself named Omni-Cam.

That's the Outsider who Cenarius is talking about here.

Anyways, now you guys know what the weird mysterious conversation back at the start of Chapter 1 was all about! And now you know why Cenarius was waiting for Rognak back at the edge of Ashenvale Forest.

Hope everyone enjoyed and be sure to let me know what you think!

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A/N: Also just wanted to do a quick RoyalRoad update. A Savage Nature is doing pretty well over on RR. We've managed to get over 200 followers, 100 favorites, and 80 ratings in the past two weeks.

We've also managed to get into the Genre-Specific Rising Stars for all four of the genres A Savage Nature is posted under. Action, Adventure, Fantasy, and Drama! So that's super cool.

However, I have received some unfortunate low ratings, and I've also lost a few followers because of Malfurion's death in Chapter 18 lmao. I can only imagine how they'll react next week to Illidan and Arthas' death.

Anyways, if you haven't yet and you have the time to throw me a Follow, Favorite, Rating, or Review over on the RR version of this story, it would be GREATLY appreciated! My window to hit the overall Rising Stars on that website is probably closing sometime in the next week or two I imagine, so all the help I can get right now is incredibly crucial.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/67825/a-savage-nature-warcraft-insert 

Comments

Adam Daw

This was truly cathartic. Heading off Fandral, and dealing with Tichondrius. Good things should indeed happen

Jake Griffith

Man. It's weird doubling back and reading stuff with the proper context. I remember being confused by the intro in chap 1, and now I'm enlightened.

Dracontorrin

This time will only comment on your A/N, as the chapter was in short kinda infodump and that is all - chapter needed and prerfecly understable considering what has been happening past last week, - well this is to be expected - you basically slew three main lore characters, important due to edge fluff or simply because Alliance fanboys xd (started leaning into alliance myself since last two expansions so glass houses etc xd)

T4ndoris

Damn Cenarius had a reverse Uno card all this time? Unexpected but welcomed nonetheless lmao

Geese

So. Not a ROB but a SOB. Alrighty then. Love the story. Has there been an explanation for why the time dragons aren’t showing up? Just curious if I missed something.

Jair Marinho Cardoso da Silva Júnior

Commenting on the AN, i think many like me, saw malfurion death as abad omen, as in that it was only a way to get the MC to get with Tyrande. I admit i initially had that same though. I mean, you might remember i commented at the start of this story that i loved how you wrote great smut, but that i aways saw potential for more. And this story shows that REALLY well. But then something of a common Flag to simplistic "F*c* every female character" like a important male character death, and well, i kinda feared for the worse? I am assuaged by now that is not what it is, but by the time this chapter comes out, many readers might. I mean, Arthas, Illidan and Malfurion? It does seem targeted. This is what i think might be the reson for the low ratings, but hang on, i believe you will overcome it, and other readers will still give this a chance for longer Thanks for the chapter, looking foward to next chapter!

Cambrian

There are multiple reasons for why the Bronzes wouldn't be involved here. The biggest one is that they aren't the AU police, they only monitor changes to the past. Outside interference is not actually under their jurisdiction despite what fanfiction likes to flanderize them as, or else the Bronzes would show up at every Legion invasion. It's sort of a fanon fallacy that the Bronzes have to show up to stop every Self-Insert that ever shows up in Warcraft tbh. Essentially, the Bronze Dragons won't be showing up in this fic at all, so you can pick whatever head canon you want for why that's the case. Either the above option, or hell, Omni-Cam is stopping them from interfering if you really want that to be the reason heh

Cambrian

Lol yeah, I was surprised everyone just kind of shrugged and left that intro alone without asking any questions back then, but now you all get the answers you never asked for anyways :P

Cambrian

Yeah, it's irritating but also funny, because Malfurion, Arthas, and Illidan died because I was trying to make a heavier, grittier, more realistic sort of story for once. But I understand the reputation I have lol. Thanks for reading and thanks for the kind words <3

santhinal

I will say this is not your usual stuff (given your a porn with plot writer primairly) but i have to admit, though its lower quality than what i get from the experienced writers of non porn stories this is still pretty solid and is proof you are perfectly capable of writing standard stories you jsut CHOOSE not to for the most part! :D I would rate your skill as a non-porn writer as 65/100 while the stories i normally read are around 60/100 and my minimum if i am super bored is 50/100 so you are above the average writer even in non-porn.

Cambrian

Yeah, I'd get too bored if I couldn't have my porn tbh :P Lol, glad you're enjoying this fic!

Girador

So, unless you've made a significant change here, Illidan is still alive-ish. At no point in time has Arthas ever been capable of perma-killing Illidan. Perma-killing Illidan is insanely hard and Frostmourne is not enough. If it wouldn't Perma-kill a Demon it won't perma-kill Illidan. Now, Illidan would certainly take a while to recover from this, quite possibly until after the point at which you said this fic' ends. But Illidan is every bit as hard to kill as Mal'Ganis, for pretty much all the same reasons, and he couldn't be perma-killed by Arthas either.

Cambrian

Illidan isn't a demon yet. He has to consume the Skull of Gul'dan first, which is when he becomes a demon. That's why his death here results in him becoming a wisp, since he's still a full Night Elf at this time. The only thing he has at this point to set him apart from other Night Elves is the fact that his eyes have been burnt out by Sargeras and replaced with little fel embers that let him see all forms of magic. But that 'gift' from the Dark Titan was not what made him a demon. Consuming the Skull of Gul'dan (which was what Arthas was trying to get him to go do before Rognak and the others ambushed them) is what turns Illidan into a Demon. That said, never say never when it comes to the Naaru and their goals. While Illidan is currently more permanently dead right now than he was in canon World of Warcraft after players killed him in the Black Temple, it's still possible that Xe'ra and the other Naaru would find a way to resurrect him around the time of the Legion Expansion, since they're still convinced he is their Chosen One.

Girador

Unless he's not a demon hunter at all at this point, His soul already does this. No Skull of Gul'Dan needed at all. Demonic style Immortality is just a thing that happens to certain people who go the path of the Demon Hunter. Illidan being one of the notable ones.

Cambrian

That's the thing. He doesn't start calling himself a Demon Hunter until after he consumes the Skull of Gul'dan. It's only after he consumes the Skull of Gul'dan and the rest of the events of Warcraft 3 and TFT happen that he even begins training other people as Demon Hunters, making sure they get the same thing that the Skull gave him. Check out his wowpedia page: https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Illidan_Stormrage If you look under Biography, you'll notice that the title 'Demon Hunter' is not something that crops up until after he consumes the Skull of Gul'dan and after the events of TFT. Only once he returns to Outlands does he start calling himself a Demon Hunter and training other Demon Hunters. Demonic Style Immortality IS a thing that certain Demon Hunters including Illidan get, yes... because they become so much like Demons that their souls become tied to the Twisting Nether. Illidan's moment where he became a Demon and his soul was tied to the Twisting Nether ONLY came after he consumed the power of the Skull and was transformed by its effects. Before that he was a simple Night Elf Mage who was dabbling in fighting with demon armaments and the Legion's powers right up until the Sundering and getting locked up for ten thousand years. But only after he got free did he actually manage to seize demonic power for himself and become a Demon, which he then turned into being the first Demon Hunter and then spread those teachings to others.

Thunder

As far as the character deaths go, they are bold choices but you've done a fairly good job of justifying them. Rognak preemptively targetting Arthas makes sense for what he knows. Malfurion was a bold choice, but it being Law of Unintended Consequences does fit. That WAS a very close mission in the game, so story-wise, I think it works. Relationship-wise though, I'm still not on board with Tyrande hooking up with Rognak. Thus far, it has felt like you've been making an effort to keep the characters at least pretty close to their game-canon selves (not even going to touch on the overall lore of WoW). With that, I have a hard time seeing why she, or Rognak, would do it. Tyrande and Malfurion's relationship was a BIG part of both their characters; ten thousand years is a LONG time to keep that flame alive. It's going to take quite a while for Tyrande to start moving on from her grief, certainly not before taking Cenarius up on his offer to commune with Malfurion's spirit one last time for closure. I'm uncertain that the combined time period of Reign and Frozen Throne will feel sufficient, in addition to everything else she's going to have going on. And then there's it being with Rognak in particular. Given what we've seen of him so far, I can't see him being the one to try to initiate things, he'd be too concerned with intruding on Tyrande's grief, if he was interested in her at all. And if things with Shandris go the way I suspect they will (she miiiiiight be in a liiiiiittle bit of denial about the degree of her attraction to him), I'm doubtful that Tyrande would be inclined to share in her daughter's relationship. ESPECIALLY if a certain potential plot point in my next post becomes relevant It's your story in the end, but for the time being, Tyrande remaining single by the end feels like it fits better. As far as Illidan's death itself, personally, I think complaints about relative power between him and Arthas are moot. Anybody can be taken by surprise.

Thunder

Thoughts on how things go from here: At this point, things are pretty nearly wrapped up in terms of the Reign of Chaos arc. It's been some time since I've played W3, but to my memory after Illidan kills Tichondrius and consumes the Skull of Gul'dan, it goes almost directly to the assault on Nordrassil. I doubt we'll see Medivh intervene, because if he's been keeping track of things, he has no reason TO intervene. The Night Elves, Orcs and Humans are allied against the Legion, him getting involved is superfluous. Frozen Throne though, is completely fucked XD Two thirds of that expansion was Illidan centric. With him dead, and Tyrande NOT carving a bloody path through the Wardens for her to hold a grudge over, Maiev basically has nothing to do. I don't think there are any characters currently who have the power, knowledge, and motivation to raise the Tomb of Sargeras. Right now, Rognak is the only one to have ANY knowledge and interest in the events of Lordaeron, so if he wants to be doing something about that, he's going to have to get proactive with his knowledge. Cenarius could back him up, knowing what he is, but I doubt he's going to play a major role going forward. With the Legion defeated, he's got some gardening to do. Luckily, Rognak knows a name that would certainly get Jaina's attention: Kel'Thuzad. Sylvanas as the next antagonist I think is a tough sell. She hated being controlled by the Lich King almost as much as she hated Arthas on a personal level. It doesn't feel like she'd be antagonist material until WoW period, Rognak's foreknowledge or not. Like Fandrel, she's a "future" problem. Kel'Thuzad, however, is as close to perfect a Plan B as the Lich King is liable to find. He's powerful, already "loyal", and Sylvanas is even less likely to be able to kill him in an ambush as she could Arthas at this point in time. At least not permanently. On a personal level, I'm pretty sure Jaina thinks that Kel'Thuzad is dead, killed at the hands of her and Arthas. I don't think she knows that Arthas killed Uther to retrieve the necromancer's remains, and she DEFINITELY doesn't know about the near destruction of Dalaran and the death of her mentor at this point. To know that what little good Arthas achieved before his fall from grace was entirely undone would rankle her something fierce. There's also the "small" potential wrinkle that Rognak's foreknowledge brings to his relationship with Shandris, and more importantly, Tyrande. If that foreknowledge stops being his and Cenarius's little secret (which it might if Rognak tries to become more proactive about Lordaeron and Icecrown), I don't think it would be unreasonable for a grieving Tyrande to be a little... upset. We know that Rognak and Cenarius both feel kinda guilty that Malfurion was essentially "sacrificed" to have the current state of affairs. And while even he would consider that a worthy trade, as far as Tyrande knows, he wasn't allowed to make that choice. It was made for him, without his knowledge. Ten thousand years has not dulled Tyrande's ability to hold a grudge, and when her fire is set, she burns HOT. And of course, there is also the looming spectre of Admiral Daelin Proudmoore. If Rognak has knowledge of the Frozen Throne expansion, then he knows that the Lord Admiral of Kul Turas is going to eventually be on his way to reunite with his daughter, still holding a grudge against the orcs for the First and Second Wars. And if he was completely unwilling to even consider the possibility of an alliance between humans and orcs, to the point of essentially usurping Jaina at Theramore, how much more enraged would he be to find one has been "defiling" her on the regular XD This will be fun.

Thunder

Not really. Demons are hard to kill because they are Fel entities tied to the Twisting Nether, and eventually reform there. Illidan became as much demon as Night Elf because of all the Fel energies he's absorbed over time, of which a large chunk came from the Skull of Gul'dan. In this setting, he hadn't had a chance to consume the Skull's energies yet. He's still as mortal as any other Night Elf.

SSs34TheElf

I kinda agree, with how the story is shaping out Tyrande x Rognak is a tough sell. As much as my smut brain wanna see Rognak orc her, it doesn’t contextually make sense. Right now it seems that Shandris and Jaina are logical choices for smut-fest. Perhaps by the end of frozen throne, as an epilogue chapter with a little time skip, a kind of one-shot esk moment between Tyrande and Rognak would make sense. Overall I’d say Shandris and Jaina would be his main partners going forward.