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Vinland Saga S2 Ep 18 (Patreon)

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2024-08-26 17:00:06
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2024-08
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that was a rough ep. Super sad.

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Bleckers

Ketil is a small man as you said. No such thing as a good slave owner. Always fun watching your reactions man!

JujutsuKaisenFan

If you don't understand that ketil is not a bad person then you missed the entire point of the show. It really shouldn't be rocket science that if it seems like everything is good and that you have a good relationship with everyone when you leave your farm and when you come back they tried to escape (which would be viewed as a betrayal in those times), then of course you would be angry. Also, the "but slavery is wrong regardless of the era" argument while true is irrelevant. You (who are reading this right now) also probably holds many beliefs and practices which will be considered immoral and barbaric 700 years from now (the same amount of distance between the setting of vinland saga and modern times). If you think you are superior to ketil (who would be considered a more moral man than most in his time) you are no different than the retainers who look down on the slaves because it is simply the common belief in those times. Sorry to write a wall of text but vinand saga is trying to make a point. It is not simply entertainment. It is telling you to check your own biases. Don't just be a knucklehead and assume you know everything and judge and hate other people. I'm not "soft" on ketil because I'm pro slavery or something. I'm not even white ffs.

Highside
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That's cool and all but he beat pregnant woman half to death.

Levi Blair

Yeah the Ketil sympathizing and excuses are absurd to have even one person spouting. I have a lot to say on his character and the overall situation because while I absolutely see him as a delusional coward with fragile pride that is too easily swayed into doing horrible things I do think there is some nuance here. Basically how I see Ketil is that it is beyond easy to be the "good guy" when your a wealthy land owner with no real problems and thats when he tried to embody that, even if his lack of spine and objectivity regularly got in the way of him truly embodying doing good even during the easiest of times. He was delusional as hell being caught up in trying to "look" like he was a strong leader and treating people well while crying to his sex slave about how hard it is, plus the absurdity of thinking his sex slave actually loved him back and that that whole situation was in anyway acceptable. He's like the caviar socialists of today attending some prestigious college on his big oil CEO daddies dime thinking he's one of the good one's just because he says people should be treated equally (without ever volunteering, donating, speaking out on the harm his wealth benefits from or taking direct action for making this equal or more fair treatment a reality) and that him occasionally giving the homeless dude on the street corner a dollar or two every now and then makes him some fighter for the plight of the underprivileged, its just delusional and gross and clearly just doing the easiest "good" things in the world and believing that makes him THE good guy instead of actually making real effort to do the good he has deluded himself into believing he is. It's easy to be good when you're a rich land owner who is effectively "above" everyone in the area but it takes a truly good person to do the right thing when faced with adversity something Ketil never did but characters like Thorfinn, Einar, Sverkal and the child thief who took his sisters punishment had the strength to do. I think the story is essentially using him as an example of how good intentions isn't enough and can even build up people to fail with terrible consequence to those around them. You need to be objective and proactive in your perception of what's right and Ketil isn't that in the slightest even if he may want to be and wanting to be good isn't enough especially when your reaction to consequence is to throw all that wanna be good guy stuff out the window and go full "woe is me" villain.

Bileg_n

Holy shit cant believe there's guy out here defending Ketil. Literally make my blood boil reading his comments...