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Exclusive: Titanic (1997) | Full Movie Reaction (Patreon)

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Definitely one of those times where I truly regret not watching a movie before now. Amazing film, beautifully told, and fantastically performed. It's easy to see why this became such a phenomenon when it was released and I'm pretty sure this one made me cry more than any single reaction prior to.

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Ryan

Cameron has always had a passion for the ocean, and this film was the result of a sincere desire to create a visceral account of an event that would soon pass entirely out of living memory, and make sure future audiences would know the Titanic's sinking as not just a detached historical curiosity but a human terror and tragedy. And he absolutely succeeded in that, as even through all the mockery the film occasionally goes through as a "chick flick," it's always been agreed that after seeing it, you'll never again be able to think of the Titanic without thinking first and foremost of the thousands of human lives that were horribly lost. I also highly recommend the 1958 film A Night to Remember, which provides a more purely fact-based depiction of the sinking (and doesn't bother giving much of an introduction to many of the characters, so already being familiar with them from this film is a definite plus). It attempts to be as emotionally detached and documentary-like as possible, but with a story like this it still can't help but get you crying by the end.

Ryan

This is the only movie to appear in the three-way ties for both the most Oscar nominations (14, shared with All About Eve and La La Land) and wins (11, shared with Ben Hur and The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King). It also had the record for the highest box office ever until Cameron topped himself with Avatar (a movie I've never cared for much, honestly). And one amusing footnote to that: La La Land is the only one of the five movies to not get Best Picture, not that Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway didn't give it their best try.

Ryan

Old Rose is played by Gloria Stuart, who had a reasonably successful acting career in the 1930s before a decades-long break to focus on gardening. She returned to it in the '70s, but mostly in small parts. Before Titanic, her best known role was in The Invisible Man in 1933, and oddly enough, that film's lead star Claude Rains would later narrate an Emmy-winning TV version of A Night to Remember in 1956 before the film verision I mentioned earlier (it's in the public domain and available in full on Youtube, though not in the best quality). She was nominated for Best Supporting Actress but lost to Kim Basinger in LA Confidential, and at 87 had the record for the oldest nominated actor for two decades until she was beaten by 89-year-old Christopher Plummer for All the Money in the World.

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>>112411541

He absolutely succeeded at that. Before watching I 100% had dismissed this as chick flick, but that was not what I was left with. I just want to learn more about the Titanic. Really great accomplishment. I saw A night to Remember is streaming on Plex.

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>>112419292

It's wild to be successful that long ago and then break for such an extended season. Super cool! She really was perfect for the role, even if my first thought was why isn't Maggie Smith playing this role?

Holly

Think just for a moment about all of the special effects that went into the making of this film (throughout the entire thing, but during the second half especially). And think about the fact this movie was made in 1997. Does any of it look dated? Like...ANY of it? If you knew absolutely nothing about this movie and somebody told you it's a movie that came out this year, would you believe them? Cuz I know I would. One of the reasons for that is because although CGI was certainly used in this movie, so were a lot of practical models and miniatures. (Also one of the reasons why the special effects in movies like Jurassic Park and Independence Day [I'm assuming you've seen that one] still look amazing to this day) One of the problems with modern blockbuster movies I feel is that so many of them rely almost ENTIRELY on CGI for their special effects now, and unless the filmmakers throw their absolute ALL into it (like Spielberg, Cameron and Howard usually do), then there's a very good chance that elements of the movie are going to come across looking very fake (certain recent movies come to mind 😉)

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>>112432915

Pretty much spot on! There are a couple fully generated CGI moments in the film that do look a touch dated but used sparingly enough that it never fully broke my immersion of the film. There were far more moments where I felt like it could have been made today. There have definitely been plenty of films recently that have been driving me crazy with terrible effects. I'm not someone who is anti CGI, but they are so rushed these days that things truly end up looking so much worse than they should. And a few that just have so little grounding in reality that it's total CGI just breaks my connection to the film completely.

Ryan
>>112419292

She was also just two years old when the Titanic sank, but getting someone who was alive at all was quite an accomplishment.

Ryan
>>112432915

The one that really stands out to me is when they're running from the flood in the hallway, and Leo and Kate's faces are CGI'd onto the stunt doubles. It was the first time this kind of effect had been done, and while you can kind of get away with it on a smaller screen, in the theater it immediately looks terrible.

Holly
>>112432915

Oh I definitely agree that the special effects aren't perfect. But just the fact that it was made in 1997 and it still looks as good if not better than a lot of the stuff made today is, in and of itself, damn impressive if you ask me.

Ryan
>>112432915

There was also that time Neil Degrasse Tyson made a stink about the stars not being in the right place for the night of the sinking, which they actually fixed for the special edition DVD. But can we just appreciate how cool it is that it's even possible to know what the stars are supposed to look like on a particular night that long ago?

Aimee

This movie hits me so differently at 41 than it did at 15. One, I don’t really like Rose much. Yes, her future prospects suck, but women didn’t have many options in 1912 and her mother isn’t trying to hurt her. Rose is 17 and knows very little about real life. Also, the fact that she let her mother live the rest of her life believing she died is unforgivable in my opinion. And the fact that when she dies she returns not to the man she married and raised a family with, but to the one-night stand she had 84 years previous. Just doesn’t sit right with me, but I understand it’s for the movie. 😉 I also love what you had to say about biblical submission. You’re correct in saying that when a husband loves his wife the way scripture requires that submission is easy. My husband is one of those men. Having said all that (lol), this movie is beautiful and definitely worth looking at the making-of stuff. It was truly a labor of love for Cameron. Basically all the characters other than the main storyline are real and it’s so sad to read about many of them. Also, by all historical accounts, the third class gates were not locked as depicted in the movie, although most of those who died were 3rd class. This was a fantastic reaction to my favorite high school movie. Thanks!

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>>112446194

You make some great points Aimee, they constructed a "love story" that worked for the film, but maybe has some real flaws, especially in real life. Glad you have a good one! :) What I was left with in the end was definitely the thoughts of the true passengers of the Titanic. Really beautiful film and accomplished what it needed to.

Ryan
>>112446194

Some of the third class gates were locked to get them all to the best exits, but tragically the huge panic of the situation, including a bunch of them not speaking English, caused many of them to not understand what was going on and keep trying to get through the shut ones.

Lara Ekle

Oh this was so wonderful to watch along with you! I always was interested in the Titanic, but at age 16 I suddenly became OBSESSED with it after my class saw the James Cameron documentary “Ghosts of the Abyss”, which is a beautiful film documenting one of his real-life Titanic expeditions, narrated by Bill Paxton who was invited along. I couldn’t fully explain why but it all just resonated and drew me in so very intensely. If you ever see it I recommend the “extended” version which is a 90 minutes rather than 60, though it’s a good one either way. I had not seen the movie “Titanic” yet at that point - I was also too young for my parents to let me when it came out, and honestly when my Titanic obsession first started I actually didn’t want to see it because I was afraid it would be far too Hollywood-ized and not true to history and would just annoy me. But it came on TV one night, and I ended up watching it, and loving it, and being amazed at the historical details that did actually go into it. I have a huge collection of Titanic books which started accumulating from that time too. There are so many interesting facts and real stories, as well as commonly believed myths that aren’t really true. One good well-researched intro to it all is “101 Things You Thought You Knew About the Titanic” by expert Tim Maltin. Another really interesting book is called “Shadow of the Titanic”, by Andrew Wilson, which tells the full stories of several of the survivors, and how the rest of their lives played out after the disaster. It’s a perspective that isn’t talked about quite as much as the disaster itself and the immediate aftermath, and it held my attention the whole book. Of course there are so many more great books and numerous documentaries too! But anyhow thank you for sharing this. It did my heart good watching it again and I am so happy you are so interested in it, as well. ☺️

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>>112471149

Thank you so much for this comment and the recommendations. I saw ghost of the abyss on IMDB yesterday and thought it looked really interesting. I may check it out later today.