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EARLY ACCESS Mushoku Tensei Season 2 Episode 24 Reaction (Patreon)

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2024-07-21 16:06:21
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Paul

I'd like to preface that I enjoy hearing your takes on most of the issues at hand in Mushoku Tensei. Also, understanding why characters make decisions, isn't the same as agreeing with the decisions made by characters. You guys are assuming that because Roxy told Rudy that she took advantage of him, that the motivation and action were solely because of her selfish desires. Ulterior motives were present, yes, but the main purpose of sex was to pull Rudy out of a death spiral. He hadn't eaten in a week and barely drank enough to stay alive. The whole group got together and talked about how they would save Rudy from this. Elinalise expressed how she had rescued many adventures from grief using sex. If you talked to a psychologist, they'd be first to tell you that sex is often used for and is quite successful at helping people who are grieving. Rudy wasn't lying, Roxy saved him. I don't disagree with the argument that there might've been another, better way to pull Rudy out of it. This world is a medieval setting, and the characters believe psychological issues to be curses. The only thing they could think of to save him was sex, which did succeed, even if it was morally wrong. Next, I understand the initial anger about having the discussion with the whole family present. Rudy has only ever experienced this type of situation once, during his childhood, when Lilia let the entire family know at the dinner table that she was pregnant. Zenith, then had the discussion about Lilia with everyone still in the room. This included Rudy, who was 5 or 6 at the time, while Norn and Aisha are 11 or 12. I don't recall you guys being as angry with Zenith or Lilia for talking about this with Rudy present. They even allowed him to influence the decisions made. Adding a person into the household was a discussion for the whole family. Now onto another issue, you guys are hard internalizing Rudy's thoughts on his "promise" to Sylphy. He didn't say what you think he did, and even Rudy thinks he promised something that he didn't. The dialogue in the episode was S-"If, um, I can't manage to have kids, you could always get a concubine." R-"I'll do no such thing. What I want isn't children, it's the fruit of love with someone I cherish. I love you, Sylphy." His promise, in Sylphy's eyes is not that he would only love her and that he'd stay faithful. It was that he wouldn't take a concubine to have kids and that he only wants the fruit of love with someone he cherishes. Him taking another "wife", especially Roxy, isn't at odds with that statement from Sylphy's perspective. Internally, Rudy turns this conversation into a stay faithful promise. At the time, he didn't even think he could love someone else. This does mean he broke a promise to himself and he should feel bad for that, but that doesn't actually involve Sylphy in the same way Rudy or you both believe. Lastly, we saw plenty more of Sylphy's perspective than you guys noticed. First some context. Sylphy's main worry was that someone better than her would come along, and Rudy would leave her for the better option. With that, when Rudy says he'd like to invite Roxy into "our" home as his "second" wife we see her jaw drop a bit. She was surprised/relieved that he wanted to add Roxy to their home, not leave or replace her for Roxy. Next, he describes how he was in a death spiral and that Roxy saved him from it. Roxy was surprised that he realized this. Remember, she tried to make him blame her for everything by saying she did it for her own selfish gain, rather than tell him the more nuanced reason. You then see Sylphy's eyes widen. This internalizes to Sylphy that Roxy saved Rudy when she couldn't be there for him. When Sylphy stops Roxy from walking off she mentions that her jealousy is gone now that she knows the "Only mage he looks up too" is just another girl like her, not a perfect being Sylphy could never come close to. Sylphy also mentions that if she was in Roxy's place, she would've done the same thing Roxy did. Even if it meant hurting Rudy's wife, Sylphy would have prioritized saving his life over all else. And finally she says she welcomes Roxy and that they should support Rudy together. This relates back to how Roxy saved Rudy when Sylphy couldn't be there. Now she's welcoming Roxy to help take care of Rudy's well-being, to cover for any shortcomings there might be. Whether it's physical safety, emotional connection, sexual needs, or any other support. It'd be nice if you guys wrote thought out reviews of seasons or series as a whole. Maybe on Patreon or as a youtube review. I'd be happy if any of my explanations gave you a new perspective.

Jason Graham

This is an amazing show I can't hate on the anime to much. But yes a lot of the criticism pointed out is anime only problems. By this point in the LN you already have enough character development to path though all of this. Semblence of Sanity hope that season 3 goes into some things. Were in the LN they kind of already have? So yes I agree it felt rushed to me. They can only judge the anime so I can't be upset at them. I totally get it. Now I think they did miss a few pieces of context that the anime did a not so good job at pointing out. But again anime problem. There is not really "Time skips" in the light novel. At least not when it comes to important substance. And yes marrying someone else is important. There is a lot more talking out the whole Roxy coming into the relationship and it totally and absolutely slowly goes though some of the issues and dynamics. Not just in like dramatic way like with Norn slowly growing to care about Roxy. But even how day to day life works etc. I hope the Time Skip in the anime is temporary they should go back and spend 1-2 episodes on the content that comes before and just after Lucie being born etc. But they likely won't? The LN is not perfect either. Some things are not handled perfectly. But you accept it because it does a good enough job. And it does want to tell a certain kind of story. It makes up for it by making it interesting and by not doing some of the silly things you would expect. Most Harem series are shallow, and never goes anywhere and is not even taken seriously. MT is not a harem series in that sense. If anything it's a "proper" harem series! lol P.S Getting behind Rudy and his family. And totally being happy for all of them. Is very important for the plot and series. Trying to view it just as something that is there is a problem. Not saying you have to like it but if the anime can't do it justice. This won't be an enjoyable series. The expanded family elements are the key elements to enjoying the series. It's not something you can look past and still enjoy in my opinion. The slice of life woven into high stake fantasy elements. Balancing all of that. And going into the dynamics of polygamy and what it means and the crazy elements of it. All of that is fun. Yes in a sense the anime has already skipped some important moment with all that. They can execute it a little out of order but it would make less sense. The series should continue to respect the viewer intelligence but also has fun with it. Trying to ignore it and just focusing on the other fantasy elements won't go well. The anime has to actually properly earn it by including some of the light novel content that they may cut short or skip. So if season 3 fails to deliver and make people care about all of that. It's only downhill from here. No matter how awesome the plot is!

RussellSD
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Really would like to know they read this, it's a great summary.