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OFF TO THE GAMES! - Fairy Tail 1x152 (Patreon)

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2023-11-15 13:00:50
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THE VIDEO:

https://mega.nz/file/miRUjKQR#fWfCa9FwA3udozUmUFmQ1sQbBYkX2wvmy-wVu8i_U7I 


The Fairy Tail crew better get to training, because that's a LOT of prize money!


I WATCH FAIRY TAIL AT CRUNCHY: https://www.crunchyroll.com/series/G6DQDD3WR/fairy-tail

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Aeco

By suggesting that you, without rare magic, can become as strong as a dragon slayer just by training a bit for 7 years, the entire power scaling structure of the series just got a bit fucked, imo. Why aren't all older wizards super powerful then? How did Jellal (with his power cut in half as Siegrain) become one of the 10 wizard saints at his young age, yet still lose to Natsu (who is only as powerful as a damn sand mage)? How did our crew convenienly encounter so many perfectly paced foes, power-wise, 7 years ago? Perhaps Oracion Seis should have trained more :P All the questions! xD And I get it, training for the tournament, but I don't think they needed the excuse of completely ordinary guild members suddenly being super powerful. They could have done it differently, such as by suggesting that they would encounter powerful opponents with rare types of magic in the tournament. Those are just my 2 cents though. Others might disagree. Edit: I guess it just feels like everyone in the entire world leveled up while our main cast's accounts got frozen for 7 years, and I'm wondering why such a global powerup occurred now and never before. Because you would have inevitably noticed if it had.

Lewd Angel
>>122260705

The world was leveling up constantly during the series prior to the timeskip, look at almost everyone in the guild when we met Lucy, then look at them during the Oracion Seis arc, then look at them at the end of Tenroujima, its a world of difference each time. The entire fairy tail crew had to keep adapting and growing stronger with each new encounter because new, powerful people, kept popping up everywhere. The world kept advancing and they had to keep up. Now keep them in stasis for 7 years while everyone kept growing individually, 7 years is a LONG time, if you started with no muscle mass at all and went to the gym every day bit by bit for 7 years you'd basically become Brock Lesnar by the time its up. Naturally they'd have fallen behind. Also i should point out, nobody who uses magic is 'ordinary', there are rarer and more unique forms of magic here and there but generally anyone who uses any type of magic can grow to be incredibly powerful. DS magic is rare but its specialized for fighting dragons, we've had plenty of opponents against whom it did very little, Zancrow is one example, rare though it may be its not an all purpose OP card. Jellal weasled his way into position, he didn't do it by a show of force, furthermore Natsu devoured raw ethernano from the tower after it was hit to be actually able to beat Jelal, and unlocked dragon force in the process. I've already mentioned it but, they were rarely ever evenly matched, they had to keep growing, remember when Speedster Mcspeedy from the Seis wiped the floor with the entire alliance during their first meeting? And finally, i don't think we've ever met a very old wizard that WASN'T powerful?

Aeco
>>122260705

They kept meeting stronger and stronger opponents, but the opponents themselves didn't seem to get stronger all that much, the ones with stronger magic just seemed to be more of a challenge. And of course those challenges caused our crew to grow, I'm not disputing that. The problem is that the overall strength of guilds/the world should remain constant if everyone gets stronger all the time - older people retire/die, younger people aren't that strong yet. But from what we have seen, it was the younger people that made the guilds as strong as they were. Fairy Tail itself is a good example of this: except for Gildarts and Makarov who were uncommonly powerful, all the strongest members were somehow teenagers or in their early 20s. The veterans were not much to speak of in terms of power, and it was exceptional individuals with rarer or more powerful types of magic who would stand out. If you look at the overall picture, from an objective perspective, then the world at the start of the series couldn't have existed. At least not if everyone can constantly grow without issue. All the more experienced wizards should have been stronger at a baseline, not at the level they were. Brain from Oracion Seis would probably be a good example, given his vast experience and former occupation. He should have been more like Bluenote or Gildarts. I don't know if I am describing it well, but this episode in particular just gave me the feeling that the author didn't think of what the implications of ever growing power mean for the starting point from which we got to know the world of Fairy Tail. My suspension of disbelief just went out the window. I'm not saying it has to for every reader/viewer, but that's what happened in my case, even when I read this chapter for the first time way back.

Lewd Angel
>>122260705

That...made no sense, no offense. "They kept meeting stronger and stronger opponents, but the opponents themselves didn't seem to get stronger all that much", so the opponents were stronger than the ones before but they weren't stronger individually? Thats a contradiction, not to mention untrue, Jellal's crew could wipe the floor with Phantom Lord, hell Jellal alone could do it, similarly the Seis could wipe the floor with Jelal's crew, and Hades alone could whip Brain and his crews ass without a blink. They were all more powerful than their predecassors at a baseline, and they all had unique abilities that made them more powerful in general on top of that. Furthermore, the oldest member of each of those guilds were always the most powerful, from Erigor to Jose to Jellal to Brain/Zero to Hades, and even on the protagonists side Makarov and Gildarts stand out, as do the 10 Wizard saints always being much older, i don't really see any evidence to support the path your thinking is taking, unless im misunderstading you? The strength of guilds should also not remain constant, you are mixing in a lil too much real world logic into this, also you've done a U turn and gone from seemingly underestimating how long 7 years is to overestimating it. Its not that much time where older people could retire or die off, but it is enough for younger people who didn't stand out before to do so now. Not everyone who uses magic trains consistently to keep growing stronger, not everyone who has magic needs to keep training to get stronger as some people are just talented or their magic doesn't require it, and not everyone develops at the same rate. The only way this wouldn't make sense to me is if one would imagine the world just popped into existence when the series started, but it didn't, all of these people have been around for a while, way before the FT crew ever caught wind of them, they've just been encountering them at a steady pace (one that IS pretty convinient yes, but then if they met Hades instead of Jose first, the series wouldn't be happening : P)

Lewd Angel
>>122260705

TLDR what im trying to get at here is that magic is varied and the people who use it are varied, age generally means more power, but it isn't a hard set rule, as is evident with Jellal for example. People grow stronger over time, but at varying paces individually, and there is a cieling to the power most people can attain, it's just that the guilds WE follow in the series didn't hit that when the series started, for narrative sake, which is the reasoning for a lot of how these things happen, happen.

V_VMat

Grand Magic Games is by far my favorite arc of Fairy Tail!!

Aeco
>>122260705

Sure. I guess my issue boils down to this: If someone like Max can, with some training, become as strong as Natsu pre-timeskip was (even physically, which is a little weird considering DS magic boosts physical stats more than other magic - see Natsu getting shot in the mouth and not being injured), then why weren't there numerous completely ordinary, untalented wizards pre-timeskip who were as strong as or stronger than Natsu? How was Natsu (and this is recognized even from episode 1 along with his nickname, Salamander) one of the stronger people? How was the world in the state it was in, pre-timeskip, if everyone can relatively easily get stronger? That's what I mean by "global level-up". Were they all lazy and the disappearance of Fairy Tail spurned them on? That doesn't seem to be the case, at least :D Edit: Or maybe it actually did and it's just never mentioned. Would make for a good headcanon at least ^^