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Interview: Christian Prouteau, founder of GIGN (Patreon)

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2021-12-16 13:27:00
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2021-12

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Rigor, Discipline, and Excellence: Christian Prouteau on GIGN Training and the MR-73

http://www.patreon.com/ForgottenWeapons https://www.floatplane.com/channel/ForgottenWeapons/home Cool Forgotten Weapons merch! http://shop.forgottenweapons.com I am honored today to be able to bring you an interview with Christian Prouteau, the founder and original leader of GIGN. This is France's premier elite counter-terrorism force, who have been at the forefront of developing modern special operations techniques and standards. Prouteau led more than 60 operation during his tenure leading the unit, including the hostage rescue simultaneous shot at Loyada. Today, we are speaking specifically about the Manurhin MR-73 revolver, which was developed specifically for GIGN at Prouteau's direction. The use of a six-shot revolver seems quite out of place in special operations units, but there were a couple very specific reasons behind the choice. Most interesting to me is Prouteau's philosophy of training and shooting skill, and his interpretation of a intervention unit's core mission. 00:00 - Introduction 00:45 - Why a revolver instead of a semiautomatic pistol? 03:40 - Did GIGN consider cartridges other than .357 Magnum? 06:25 - Was GIGN involved in development of the MR-73? 11:14 - What range did GIGN practice revolver shooting at? 12:55 - Reactions times and training habits 17:34 - The "Confidence Shot" 19:06 - How often was the revolver actually used in field operations? 21:51 - So not just a ceremonial sidearm? Prouteau's revolver philosophy 22:23 - The scoped sniper MR-73 revolvers 24:59 - Why didn't more agencies use something like the sniper revolver? 27:18 - The goal is the minimum of shooting - elite unit training 29:13 - Revolver ammunition 30:53 - Conclusions * Cartridge energy note: Prouteau referenced cartridge power in kilograms, and I'm not sure exactly what measurement he meant. I have substituted muzzle energy in Joules, as he was making a point about relative power between cartridges and barrel lengths and the specific unit were not really important to his comments. Many thanks do my anonymous friend who arranged this interview and acted as live translator, and to my friend Edouard for providing the translated captions! Any error in their timing and details are my own fault. Contact: Forgotten Weapons 6281 N. Oracle 36270 Tucson, AZ 85740

Comments

Anonymous

Very interesting, Living history. He is In good shape for 77 years old., Must be all that good French wine. Enjoyed Thanks.

Martin Morehouse

Great interview, he is clearly a thinker first, then a trainer, before being a pioneer in his field. Thanks!

Mick Gillen

Had the honour to meet him in 1994 at CRS HQ in Nimes while on an exchange. Well done Ian for getting him on camera. Most interesting.

Anonymous

Fascinating and very informative, thanks for sharing. I am so jealous of you that you had the opportunity to speak to such a living legend.

Anonymous

What an incredible experience, an opportunity to learn from someone responsible for establishing modern threat-mitigation teams, organization of operations, experience-based training disciplines and of course developing weapons that suited the core mission needs. I was hoping he would share details of GIGN’s developing their version of a S&W “Hush Puppy”! How’s your acquisition of the French language? I recently received a collection of different audio:visual practical French language lessons, so if you need access to that kind of thing, I would be glad to donate them towards your obsession so the next time you are with Christian, you will be fluent - and you won’t need an interpreter.

Patrick Yamada

Now I really feel like I should have continued French classes after high school.

Anonymous

This is gold, right there or even better than your Jim Sullivan interviews. I like this on a lot of levels, but particularly his dedication to solving difficult and dangerous problems with the minimum number of rounds. Wow!

Anonymous

This interview offers a fascinating look at police ethics and tactics interwoven with firearm design. The emphasis on how training and trust of your teammates going hand in hand was eye opening. Mr. Prouteau's focus on bringing suspects to trial alive and how their issued arms are not for dispensing immediate justice, but to ensure it is brought about in court speaks volumes about the character and the core mission of GIGN. I am speechless that a member of law enforcement's view on the use of firearms is mainly about restraint. I feel like I wrote a review above, but seriously, this interview should be required watching at police academies. So many police forces seem to forget their mission is to enforce laws and not to kill everyone who gets in the way (looking at you ATF).

Anonymous

Hi Ian, I am a Francophile like you and have collected several French firearms and have an interest in their military and police. I have been learning to speak French for about 17 years now and I'm still not very good. I read ok though. I really do appreciate the interview with Proteau. He is a person I've been interested in and would never expect to see him interviewed. Bravo!

Anonymous

Followup, can you tell us where the interview was done? and how you got it set up?

EyeBall

Thank you for bringing this interview to us. Perhaps, I may have an MR73 some day. While I am not worthy to be in a unit like GIGN, but I can learn lessons from outstanding people.

Anonymous

Proteau has led quite a life besides his role in GIGN. He was in the middle of a great deal of French political intrigue in the last quarter of the 20th century. After leaving GIGN, he appears to have become a true Praetorian for the Elysee Palace. Great interview of a really interesting individual. Thanks for all you do.

Anonymous

That is perhaps the single best interview I have seen you do, and I like your interviews. The contrast in training philosophy compared to what is often used at the federal level in the US seemed more and more apparent as the interview progressed. I have a close relative who recently finished such training and I will be sharing this with him over the holidays. Thank you.

Guido Schriewer

must be a very very skilled man with a handgun