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Colt's Prototype Scaled-Down Model 1910 in .38/9.8mm

http://www.patreon.com/ForgottenWeapons https://www.floatplane.com/channel/ForgottenWeapons/home Cool Forgotten Weapons merch! http://shop.bbtv.com/collections/forgotten-weapons With the impending success of Colt’s program to develop new .45 caliber pistol for the US military (the 1911), the company began to look for ways to exploit the work that had gone into it. They had previously sold lots of .38 caliber automatic pistols, so why not offer a .38 caliber version of the 1910? In addition to a potential US commercial market, a new rimless .38 caliber cartridge might be just teething to get some foreign military contracts. So about 5 pistols were handmade by Colt’s tool room around both the old .38 ACP cartridge and a very similar 9.8mm cartridge (which was tested in both semi-rimmed and rimless variations). These guns were not conversions of the .45 caliber frame, but rather wholly new guns built around the smaller ammunition. They are slightly smaller in scale across all dimensions compared to the now-familiar M1911. At the same time, Colt’s relationship with FN was getting tense as FN was selling more guns into Central and South America. Colt decided to send their new 9.8mm prototype (in the hands of Eugene Reising, then a Colt employee) to pistol trials in England and Romania. While winning a contract would be great, just appearing would let FN know that Colt was still paying attention. In the end, Colt didn’t win any contracts - but they were able to negotiate a new marketing agreement with FN from a stronger position. The experimental .38/9.8mm pistols gathered dust in storage, as they were never ultimately put into production. In 1929, someone remembered them when Colt was releasing the M1911A1 in .38 Super. Serial number 3 (this pistol) was given a nice new finish and put into Colt’s factory museum (from whence it later was sold into the collector market). Contact: Forgotten Weapons 6281 N. Oracle 36270 Tucson, AZ 85740

Comments

Guido Schriewer

it is gorgeous indeed. sounds in direction of the browning 380s and 22s in 7/8scale. there must be A LOT of people whom always wanted a 1911 but it was a little too big for them. 90%size is a small difference though.

ViejoLobo

That hammer looks oversized. Heard what you said, but wonder how many of this gun's parts were sourced from the .45s.

Anonymous

Was the arched mainspring housing original to 1910 or was it added in 1929 refurbihment?

Sean Tyson

Fantastic video, Ian! It really is an attractive pistol, partly because it IS smaller than the full size 1911, even if just by a smidgen. It fits your hand really well (I've always thought the 1911 was a bit oversized), and perhaps the hammer bite wouldn't be that bad, since the caliber is .38 not .45? Anyway, absolutely fascinating look at "what might have been."

Anonymous

really interesting and unusual peice. Is it what we now know as "38 super" or a different cartridge? my old gunsmith built me a similar peice - using an officer frame and commander length barrel, chambered in 38 super, it is really fun to shoot. cycles very fast. thanks Ian !