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Othais from C&Rsenal and I spent some time chasing with Edward Brawer,  founder and CEO of Utreon. This is a new video platform that aims to compete with Youtube. What makes Utreon different from all the other platforms that have come and go? A lot, and that's what this conversation is about - but in short, it's founded on having a fundamentally better structure than YouTube, and not simply trying to grab the content that YouTube disallows. Utreon also includes Patreon-like channel subscription and support in its system, and may actually have the potential to really compete with YouTube. Othais and I both think it's a really exciting prospect.

Utreon is right now moving into its beta stage, and is looking for viewers to try out the system, without opening it up to the whole public quite yet. So we thought we would invite you, our Patrons, to check it out! See what you think:

https://utreon.com

In fact, you can also listen to the interview right there, on Utreon:

https://utreon.com/v/XSwST6KTKCw


Comments

Anonymous

I just signed up. Do you know when/if the subscription benefits will be filled out? Right now they're all generic.

ForgottenWeapons

I don't know - I would assume that will depend on how much tweaking and fixing the basic subscription system requires to work out the bugs.

Anonymous

Are they accepting creators?

Anonymous

Signed up, as a follower at this point.

Patrick Mathews

It seem one must have a Canadian or US address to subscribe 😒

Anonymous

I would suggest a name change. If you have to ask how to spell it, it isn't going to catch on organically and it will be difficult to search for. The name also seems like a mashup of Youtube and Patreon. It's generally a bad idea to base your business name on your competitor's brand.

ForgottenWeapons

With all due respect, that sort of suggestion should be sent tot he Utreon folks directly - they can't see this thread.

Toby Williamson

Just tried to subscribe myself, but saw that billing information was only for the US and Canada. Should I still subscribe even outside of those two countries, and how?

Rory

Is there video for the interview you just uploaded? It helps the half deaf crowd here.

Anonymous

We are working deploying to AUS / NZ and Western Europe. Where are you from?

Anonymous

Send us a feedback email, letting us know where you are from. We are going to be deploying to more countries shortly.

Anonymous

I signed up, and so far it looks good. One thing to note is that I already support you on Patreon. There is no way I'm sending money on utreon, Patereon, Library, Bitchchute etc. Every time I get asked by a creator to sign up for a new service or platform, especially if there is a pay wall, it lessens my commitment to that creator. Best wishes.

ForgottenWeapons

Yep, totally understand. This is a unique situation because Utreon is in beta; if it were fully public I would expect people to move form Patreon to Utreon, not support on both.

Pat Patterson

Is it okay to pass the Utreon link to other viewers and content creators?

Andreas Nohl

I really dislike (in: License to Utreon) that part that the can: use name, identity, use the name, identity, likeness and voice (or other biographical information) that you submit in connection with such User Content.

Anonymous

Hey Andreas, thanks for pointing that out. We'll look closer into it and what can be done to improve the terms. In the meantime if you have references to how other similar services may have better handled that please do let us know via the feedback method under the account menu.

Frank Baud

Cool to see Utreon staff here replying in the comments

Jason

Now I have to rewatch Forgotten Weapons on another platform to get the full benefit. The sacrifices I make for FW.

Douglas Knapp

OOOOF! Really bad sound quality! Also LOTS of run-around from one platform to another . . . DAMN!

Douglas Knapp

Generally FW sound and video is good quality video/sound (I know it's hard to get the assholes out of the background at the shooting range . . . ) This doesn't work at all.

Bob McCormick

Could you make a shorter version with better audio? Or maybe a post here giving the summary highlights of the talk? I like the idea of an alternate to YouTube, and combining it with subscriptions ala Patreon sound good.

Anonymous

Ian are you going to put cetme and wwsd magazine videos to inrange utreon cause they are not in yt and full 30 is unusable nowdays

ForgottenWeapons

Sorry, but I really don't have a way to do that. The short version is that Utreon is a new video hosting platform that hopes to take on YouTube by having a fundamentally better foundation. It includes a mechanism for viewers to financially support channels, but is not a paywall and will also use advertising. It retains basic rules of content, but has a much better appeal system than YouTube. It is dedicated to transparency and clarity on these issues.

Anonymous

Multiple times you've described a gun as cool. Which handgun and rifle would be the most un-cool in your view?

Andrey Gardner

Here is an auto generated transcript of the video. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j8wB48DuueENDcZSlVfVmJBB63S1sszS/view?usp=sharing I can work on cleaning it up if anyone is interested.

Robert Socal

I don't know where to ask this question, it seems improper both on Youtube and here. Discard it if it is off-topic. The question is: are you prohibited by Youtube rules from saying aloud the full name of Rock Island Auction Company? Through all the latest videos you keep saying "RIA", which you have not done before. Is YT policy the reason?

ForgottenWeapons

YouTube does not allow "promotion of gun sellers", but doesn't specify what that actually means. So I am avoiding saying "auction" as a proactive move against the possibility that their algorithm will use video transcripts to flag videos.

Anonymous

As one friend of mine said "next time don't record on a potato"

Anonymous

The name needs a serius rethink but sounds good otherwise IFFFF done correctly

Anonymous

He said i-phone and Android Apps are in progress. How about Roku channel? I watch most of what I watch off of You-Tube on my BIG SCREEN Roku TV.

Anonymous

@Forgotten_Weapons What kind of percentages are you looking at on your end for if I move support to you from Patreon to Utreon? The $5 first month badge idea and supporting this YouTube competitor is tempting but I don't want to hurt you either.