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The Coolest Gun You Will See All Day: China's Type 64 Silenced Pistol

http://www.patreon.com/ForgottenWeapons https://www.floatplane.com/channel/ForgottenWeapons/home Cool Forgotten Weapons merch! http://shop.bbtv.com/collections/forgotten-weapons The Type 64 is a dedicated suppressed pistol first introduced in 1965 and used in the Vietnam War. It uses a rimless version of the .32 ACP cartridge (7.65x17mm) in a 9-round Makarov like magazine. Despite outward similarity to the Makarov (especially the grip), the design is wholly unique internally. It uses basically a miniaturized AK bolt to allow the shooter to select between blowback semiauto functioning and single shot manual operation. The bolts rotating locking lugs prevent it from cycling when locked, in a very clever alternative use of the rotating bolt system. The suppressor has two chambers, using a combination of baffles and wire mesh as suppressor elements. In addition to standard ammunition, a plastic-sabot frangible load was also developed for use in situations like airline hijackings, and this loading is why some sources reference a maximum effective range of 15 meters. For all its technical cleverness, the Type 64 is a rather heavy pistol, at 1.8kg / 4 pounds. It was replaced in 1967 by the substantially lighter and simpler Type 67, which weighed only 1.05kg / 2.3 pounds. This particular Type 64 was originally owned by Mitch Werbell III, giving it an even more interesting history… Contact: Forgotten Weapons 6281 N. Oracle #36270 Tucson, AZ 85740

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Anonymous

Very interesting pistol, I had never seen one before, Clever Chinese as usual. Enjoyed the video/history.

Anonymous

Way cooler and special ops (or secret police) than I expected, especially that holster. I wonder why I've never seen this?

Andrew Sebastian

Soooo... do you have a Type-67 video?

Ryan G

Does anyone know why all of the Asian weapons are just Type-this or Type-that? Is that the literal translation, or is it that the actual name doesn't really translate to English or Latin characters?

Ryan G

That makes sense. What a cool design, I wonder why we don't see integral suppression more commonly in pistols. Keeps the length short, puts the sights where they're supposed to be, just a really neat design.

Anonymous

Thank you for presenting this and especially for mentioning the provenance of this firearm. Being an old cold warrior and Asian language/history scholar I really wanted some idea about how this pistol ended up legally in the US.

d from birmingham

well most countries don't allow silencer ownership for civs. the us is about the largest market for such guns. so its a lot of development and manufacturing cost for a gun for a private company unless a gov't does an order. even the Maxim 9 a lot of police in the US have to pay out of their own pocket to have it as a duty pistol if they are aware of the existence. note police are exempt from the transfer tax for duty weapons.

d from birmingham

the auction listing actually details this info. "https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/80/1487/chinese-type-64-class-iiinfa-integrally-suppressed-pistol

d from birmingham

. This particular pistol is photographed and described in the included article from the October, 1981 issue of "Combat Handguns". The article details the various design features of the pistol, and even more interestingly recounts how this very rare piece was acquired. there is even a video from RIA detailing several guns from the owner's collection. The owner who btw got it from the assassin who tried to use it on him but got a .22 round in exchange that opened a third eye for assassin.

d from birmingham

The owner is an interesting fellow that Ian should make a vid on. He invented the Sionics silencer that was paired with the MAC-10. When he was in vietnam selling MAC-10s and the silencer as a pair a contract killer tried to use this gun on him. The contract killer was dispatched by a single 22 round to the forehead. So who hired the contract killer was lost but odds are it was an official Chinese communist hit because MAC10s with Sionics silencers were a pretty effective combo for special ops, anti-communist police etc.

d from birmingham

Well the hitman who tried to use this on a very famous American in Vietnam was not very clever. The single 22 round to the forehead meant the American got this silenced pistol and holster in exchange.

Anonymous

I guess what just goes over everybody's head here is how WerBell brought this pistol back to the US legally. It is not just a firearm but an NFA firearm. I have to surmise that as he was in the business of selling NFA weapons overseas the company he worked for had the licenses to export and import NFA firearms and I would guess he just added this handgun to his list of items he brought back to the US after his particular trip to Vietnam.

Anonymous

The Character used for "type" in this case is " 式" - Japanese "Shiki", Chinese "Shi" - and would be closer to the English word "model" in this usage. However, when used in the original language the usage would generally translate to "type", as in "water resistant type" , "official type", etc. So to keep the usual original meaning of the character it is usually translated to "type".

d from birmingham

seems Werbell was given the billet of Major General in the US Army to allow him to travel in southeast asia and sell his guns and silencers. That is more likely way he managed to bring it back and have it be registered since importation of silencers is usually forbidden unless military, law enforcement or other gov't agency does it. I do think the 1968 gun control act forbade importation of machine guns and silencers for the civ market.