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Apocrypha - 1878 Marine unboxing

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MattC10/63

These videos are going to be awesome!

Anonymous

Yikes! So glad they all survived unscathed.

Anonymous

You lucked out on that, if it were me... Those would have been kindling.

moosemaimer

I haven't seen someone so giddy over an unboxing besides LGR.

HammerBaird

that tile looks nice

Anonymous

Could you post up a list of the various auction houses you use, Ian?

Anonymous

I would have thought that guns like that would have been shipped in a wooden crate wrapped in bubble wrap and and surrounded by packaging peanuts

Anonymous

As the lucky winner of a few auctions at RIAC, I can vouch that your guns will arrive unscathed. They charge quite a bit for packaging, but you will fight to retrieve your guns from the bubble wrap's grasp. They also remove the bolts and bubble wrap them separately, and yes, they do use lots of peanuts. If it's multiple guns, each gun will be in it's own box inside a larger box. What Ian got was some really shoddy packaging and boxing. I'd be irate even though they seem fine.

Anonymous

A Kropatchek experimental conversion, a Marine rifle, and the third one is the strange one? That quite an eclectic assortment. As to shipping, I've had pretty good luck, but in the end there's no packing job that the shipper can't defeat. Although I agree that this lot could have been better packed. Finally, nice to see Ian go as giddy as any of us when he finally gets the Precious.

Anonymous

Hello Ian I work in the international shipping world and ship a lot of firearms and unfortunately crappy packaging is entirely too common. I have seen a lot worse than that.

Anonymous

Ian, thank you for being terribly human!

Anonymous

PS. I was just watching "Paths of Glory" and found myself wondering what rifles the French troops were using. Forgotten Weapons has certainly warped my sensibilities.

Anonymous

Gun Jesus tears the box open with his bare hands because apparently he doesn't own a knife...

Anonymous

Ha! He doesn’t need no stinking knife! I just took delivery of 5 rifles from RIAC’s June auction and it ended up taking me quite a while to unwrap each one. I have to say they do a great job and whichever house packed these rifles should be ashamed. You were very lucky that nothing appears to have been damaged.

Anonymous

What the hell auctions are you shopping? And have you complained about the packaging? I've seen $100 Mosins packed better...

Matisse Enzer

Yeah I also got some from the RIAC June auction and their packaging was excellent.

Anonymous

Does Ian have the best collection in the USA of French military firearms of the first half of the XX century? I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

Anonymous

Seeing that they didn't really know what any of the guns were, I'm assuming the auction wasn't/isn't really gun focused, so they might not have much experience with shipping guns (not an excuse, just an explanation). On the plus side, that probably means he got a pretty good deal ;)

Anonymous

Ohh I love when auctionhouses have no clue what gun it is, it have saved me a ton of money on surplus rifles and handguns.

Anonymous

That packaging is kind of terrifying.

Anonymous

Wow, can't wait to see videos on those 2 first rifles!

Anonymous

Those rifles are beautiful! Whoever packed them like that should be ashamed.

Anonymous

yep it sucks when the gun isn't packed correctly :(. I've gotten a few with bolts or barrels sticking out, but luckily no damage. I did make a rookie mistake when I first started collecting and just assumed a gun was insured (since the few others I bought were)and it wasn't. It arrived poorly packed and a cracked stock. The seller (i think sent it that way) said I didn't ask for insurance so he didn't insure it. After that I always asked for insurance.

Systern

Omg that marine looks gorgeous!

Anonymous

packed by the neighborhood crack house

David Morris

C&R or full FFL?

John S Wren

Oh that's some cool stuff right there. Love that Kropatschek. And that trial magazine - read about them but how on earth did that get to the USofA?

Brandon T

I don't recall the guy's name, but at least twice now Ian has had on another American collector of French arms that, based on his allowing Ian to fire an unobtanium rifle on film, leads me to believe that *that* individual has a better collection than Ian's.

Anonymous

I do believe it is a cadet rifle. Still in 11mm, I guess. In France, there is a lot of models or we don't really know during the auction/pictures if the weapons have been tampered with or are in "historical" condition. With the rocambolesque French then European restrictions, this type of rifle (cadet) is relatively common (even if I see nobody shooting with it but that can be understood). We also have a law that says we can possess pre-1900 or black powder weapons without any justification other than to justify by his identity card that we are in legal age. That's why we have a weird market filled with Velodogs, study or cadet rifles, 12-gauge cane etc... quite funny and fun weapons to examine, research the origin as well as understand the logic behind their creation and use.

Luci

I've had clothes shipped in better packaging than that, jeez. The bolt handle is always going to be an issue when shipping, so if possible when shipping I prefer to remove the bolt and wrap it up separately. Actually in my country you're required to ship the gun in two separate packages of vital parts (so for instance the bolt in one package and the rest of the gun in another). Ideally you should send one package, wait for the recipient to confirm delivery, then ship the second. In reality most people just ship both at the same time.

Stephen Woods

When I received may C-96 the FFL told me that it appeared on his front porch, the UPS guy didn't even ring the door bell. While the packaging was OK, they had shipped it with a box of .30 Luger.

Andrew MacKenzie

First time I'v ever seen Ian in shorts! LOL

Anonymous

It just baffles me that you can "just" ship firearms in the post like that...

Anonymous

Is the finish completely worn off of the Kropatschek or is the finish just super light? It looks really good in the white like that.

Anonymous

A firearm that was built in 1898 or earlier (or a replica thereof, as long as it either doesn't use metallic cartridges or uses cartridges that aren't actively manufactured or sold) or a muzzle-loading black powder firearm can be legally shipped to someone's door in the mail without a background check. It's also likely that Ian has a Curio & Relics license, which would allow for any weapon 50 years of age or older at the time of the sale to be mailed to his door without a background check.

Wilhelm Screamer

the excitement at the mention of the box magazine is palpable

Bruce Brodnax (edited)

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2021-08-14 03:58:59 Lots of cadet rifles were in the white. Made the cadets put in extra time working on their spit & polish! ;-)
2018-08-02 02:03:59 Lots of cadet rifles were in the white. Made the cadets put in extra time working on their spit & polish! ;-)

Lots of cadet rifles were in the white. Made the cadets put in extra time working on their spit & polish! ;-)

Anonymous

Sounds like military service hasn't changed a much over the many years. Builds discipline and attention to detail.