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Dr Kirk Honda rants about the ethical problems of life coaches.

00:00 Intro

03:31 What does life coaching mean?

12:28 The case

15:23 Why would a therapist start coaching?

19:16 What might brief therapy look like?

37:54 Making money as a therapist & marketing

51:42 Practicing across state lines & education

1:05:02 Ethical issues & mentorships

1:22:45 Diluting the profession of therapy

1:27:45 A brief history of the profession

1:33:27 Where did the therapist go wrong?

1:47:00 What did the licensing board do?

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December 29, 2023

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Anonymous

It makes total sense to me why a therapist would also become a coach. If you're not in private practice, you can make more money coaching. It's the difference between being paid approx. $80-$120 by an insurance company for providing a single therapy session vs. a $250-$400 per hour flat rate per session. So if a therapist can't afford to open a private practice or join a group practice, coaching seems like a lucrative supplemental income. My mom spent $10,000 getting a coaching certificate from some rando lady that writes self-help books and has no credentials whatsoever. My mom would show me the curriculum and it was essentially a modified regurgitation of CBT techniques repackaged as coaching, using co-opted psychological concepts and giving them a different name and spin, plus some New Age pseudoscience thrown in the mix. And of course the creator of this program took credit for all the information discussed as if it was her own original thoughts and ideas. (Gross. Red flag.) After my mom finished the program, she described the negative experience that changed her mind completely about becoming a coach. Her instructor "coached" someone in her cohort who unexpectedly expressed suicidal ideation during the live session and it terrified my mother. She came to the realization that without additional training in mental health, she'd have no idea when a client needs to be referred to a therapist and she wasn't willing to take the risk of harming someone unintentionally. I was really proud of her for coming to that conclusion because she's 100% right. At the same time, she's a great project manager so I told her not to give up completely. I could see her doing really well as a home organizer. We could call her a Clutter Coach! lol

Anonymous

I just started grad school, it’s only week three and I already know enough to recognize that the last ethics case is full of “bullshittery” as they say