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Andrew Tate goes to therapy (Chapter 2) (Patreon)

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2024-01-03 15:00:04
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Dr Kirk Honda reacts to Andrew Tate going to therapy.

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January 3, 2024

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SeattleTransAndNonbinary ChoralEnsemble

David doesn’t agree with Andrew. It was obvious to me that when he said “the haters probably just want to have sex with you / women are illogical” he was playing devil’s advocate to make Andrew think they are on the same team in order to disarm him and lower his defenses, to get past the “you’re just a brainwashed male feminist cuck” dismissal. It’s the same as the ‘good cop’ strategy in interrogation methods like the Reed technique (like subtly victim blaming in the hope that the suspect in turn will disclose his own contempt for the victim or misogynist views). This and other more adversarial, red hat sort of therapeutic methods can backfire (particularly in groups where people don’t realize that’s what you’re doing, or blow your cover, or if your facial expression reveals that what you're saying disgusts you.) I remember case studies of Fritz Perls and Albert Ellis provoking clients into self awareness this way. it can easily turn into enabling or even seen as tacit endorsement to reoffend, and should be used very judiciously. Ironic that he then goes on to the next sentence about women using emotions to manipulate him, and yet be fully unaware that a man is doing exactly that as they speak.

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Individuals like this can reproduce their competitiveness and paranoia in the therapeutic relationship, and become competitive with the therapist. And in addition begin to feel that the therapist is also “out to get them”. One of my colleagues clients would always feel he needed to “outsmart” the therapist, and often boast about how he saw what the therapist was “trying to do” and how he avoided the therapist “catching him out”. If the therapist was seen to be “winning” he would become physically aggressive to the therapist. In the end the sessions were ended out of concern for the therapists safety.