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Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Part 4 Ep 13 "We Picked Up Something Crazy!" - reaction & review (Patreon)

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Hey everyone!  Here I am with Jojo Part 4, episode 13!!!  OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You guys, this is just the kind of ep I was hoping for!!!!!!!  It was so sweet to see Josuke and Joseph have to work together, and also really sad to see some of the issues/tension there too.  But I think it's good in a way that they got it all out in the open!  Taking care of the baby was SO wild and was like a nicer version of the Death 13 story haha!  And that ending......like WOW, Joseph's still a straight up boss and is so brave!!!  This whole story was just so beyond adorable, I couldn't stop smiling!!!!  I'm so blessed we got one like this!!!  Can't wait for more!  Enjoy!  ~ MH


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Senpai

So for this week... Well, we've talked about Red Hot Chili Pepper already and his voice actor. We'll talk a little more about his stand user... You see on his Coat it says 'AC/DC' in a double reference to the band AND alternate current/direct current when it comes to electricity. He's also modeled after Japanese Guitarist Kenji Ohtsuki, who apparently got along with Araki during an interview? They both had a love of horror movies, so I think Kenji's okay with this character. xD I honestly think he's a great villain. Sure he doesn't do much, but he only got his own hands dirty. Granted his stand had allowed him to do this, but it's a pretty powerful stand. Like it's a long distance type that relies on electricity(so in the middle of the wilderness it won't be of much use), but in cities he's like... near invincible. I actually liked him as a villain, though that's probably because he was so willing to throw in the towel after taking an 'L'. He's not going to be forgetting this asskicking for a long time, but at least it'll keep him out of trouble. Granted he murdered a person, though... it wasn't like Okuyasu's brother didn't have it coming after the possible lives that he took. ...Yet Akira here never shot anyone with the bow and arrow. Weird. ...There's *how* much of this season left? ...What else could there be? More slice of life stuff? .......I meaaaaaannnnn.... When's the last time we've had a slice of life episode before Part 4? Not a bad idea, huh? ;D And look at old, OLD Joseph... Jojo from Part 4 was a character in All Star Battle and Eyes of Heaven, but not Part 4 Joseph. It's kind of sad to see him at this age, but at the same time... He's lived a full life, he's certainly beaten that pesky ol' Joestar Curse, right? ....R-Right?! T-This is the only time we'll see him skirting close to death this part... R-R-RIGHT? ; n; ...Anyways, the baby's stand name is Achtung Baby, which is a U2 Album. The Baby is voiced by Taeko Kawata who voiced Arale from Dr. Slump, and uh... I guess she voiced some obscure character by the the name of Amy Rose... She's like some Pink Hedgehog with a hammer or something. I think she's some from that one obscure Sega Series... What was it... Shadow the Hedgehog? o: Sonic Speed O' Sound? Something among those lines.

Spadeas

Hi Hime :) Okuyasu always says he's not very smart and that's probably true compared to other characters in the series, but he's still resourceful in how to use The Hand to move. Besides, it's just a huge heart too, a bit slow, but adorable in its own way. You can recognize a certain strength of character in Akira Otoishi, guitar shredding with the broken pinky, it takes a lot of mental strength. Joseph ready to sacrifice himself to save a baby, don't you remember his own grandfather, Jonathan, who although dying, asked Erina to save a baby who later became Lisa Lisa, Joseph's own mother? The circle is complete. The baby will later be named Shizuka Joestar, adopted by Joseph, her stand is called Achtung Baby, in reference to a U2 album. It seems to me that it is never said in the manga or the anime, so I tell you here. Oh when you are going to edit these videos for youtube and you learn about a certain person, you are going to see them in the background afterwards. But then again, the show is full of easter eggs like this. For example, we hear and see in this episode someone giving "shueisha" documents to another person. Shueisha is a big manga publisher, so who could this strange mangaka be? You also have the two girls who pass by Josuke in front of the store, who talks about another girl who received a ring but who we haven't seen since, a ring like the one worn by the hand near the bathtub in the previous episode maybe. And even before that, when Josuke meets Angelo's booth for the first time (episode 1 I think), in front of a store there too, where he stops a guy armed with a knife, leaving it in his stomach. You have a crowd scene and in the crowd, you can notice Hazamada, Keicho and Okuyasu, Yukako and yet another character who will appear soon or has already appeared? Only the future will tell.

kamenriderhime
>>114130120

I love the AC/DC reference, it works on so many levels!! No kidding about the inspiration, that's awesome!! True, he at least got his own hands dirty. He is a pretty cool villain! That's the thing, near cities there would be no chance!!! That's true, it's not like his hands are clean here, but as villains go there is a bit to like here. Glad to know he won't be a problem anymore! And he never did use that bow and arrow, weird!!! OMG I was kinda thinking this, like he have 20+ eps left and kinda no villain lol. I'm not gonna say no to slice of life at all!!!! I live for this stuff haha! I knooowwww, he's so old!!! It's kinda bittersweet because he beat that curse to a pulp, which I'm thrilled about, but it's hard to see him so...well...frail! OMG don't even get me started, I'm standing by ready with the bubble wrap, I am SO worried for him haha!! Ohhh no kidding about the Stand name, that's awesome! OMG no way about the VA, that's awesome haha!!!!

kamenriderhime
>>114137327

Hi Spadeas! :) Exactly, I mean on a series of people with superhuman smarts, he can still hold his own a little! Yeah that takes some real strength to shred with a broken pinky! OMG yes I absolutely remember Jonathan doing that for the baby!!! Such a great way to bring it full circle!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE ADOPTS HER?!?!?!!? I can't believe they never mention that, thank you so much for letting me know! So do he and Suzi raise her together, or isn't she still in the picture? Maybe that's a spoiler...I'm dying to know lol but I can wait if it is. No kidding about the Easter eggs, wow! I can't believe I missed that about the ring, it's gotta be connected to what we saw! Interesting about the manga reference! What, I need to go back and watch that scene!! Another character?! Wow!!! Thanks for all the info :D I can't wait for more!!

Spadeas
>>114137327

Oh I forgot, on another note, apparently there is no Geats this week end. I don't know if you knew already, but if you don't have plan to take its spot, maybe try one of the specials, they're about the same lenght as an episode.

Brian Settles

It says a lot about Araki that in the middle of all this craziness and something very dark clearly on the horizon, he takes time to focus on a father and son looking after a baby.

Senpai
>>114130120

I mean you gotta admit, the dude has talent. Josuke broke his finger, and he straight up used the power of ROCK to snap it back into place. xD Ugh, I wish I could something about people posting straight up spoilers in the comments though.

Leonie2003

Here is one of the best SoL Jojo episodes. The bonding time between Joseph an Josuke is so sweet. Joseph in Part 3 has always reminded me of my own grandpa. Despite being 83 years old, he's still in great shape and could even survive the Stardust Crusaders' journey just like Joseph. When I imagine that he will eventually become like Joseph in Part 4, I always feel sad. It's sad to see how people can change as they get older. That's why it always makes me a little upset to see Joseph so senile. 😭 I think, as well as many fans, that Joseph is just pretending to be senile. First of all, it would fit his character to make fun of others and when it comes to dangerous situations he still reacts like in Part 3. But that's all just a headcanon. I would also have liked to see a meeting of Joseph and Josuke's mom and their reactions to each other. But I still think that Joseph only really loved Suzie Q and Tomoko was just a short romance. On Instagram there is a very talented artist who drew a super cute comic about Joseph and Suzie. I would love to share this one with you. This artist has also drawn some other great headcanons of the fans that I will link you to when the right time comes. I hope you'll like them and watch out for spoilers. On social media sometimes it's not that easy. https://www.instagram.com/p/CP81x6BnyDc/?img_index=1

kamenriderhime
>>114130120

I know right?! Like that's some dedication to the craft right there lol! Oh no, what did I get spoiled on???

kamenriderhime
>>114137327

Ohhh thanks for the info!!! Sounds good, I'll try to git some other Kamen Rider content in there! I remember the one you mentioned that I would like a while back, but can't remember the name of it? Maybe I'll try to check that one out!

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

I couldn't agree more, it might be my favorite of the season so far!!! I love it! Awww, thank you for sharing that about your grandpa, I know how hard it is to watch older relatives age, I've been through it myself. As sad as it is to think of the changes that come with age, I think it's really great that you have the wisdom to see that ahead of time and enjoy every moment with your grandpa in the present time! I was upset to see Joseph that way too, and honestly it brought up some feelings of my own too about older relatives. Oh, what an interesting theory!!! You know, the first thing I thought of when we see him with Okuyasu is that he's putting on the whole thing and is gonna snap into action when needed!!! I guess it's not confirmed but I almost kinda feel better thinking that maybe that's what's happening, even if it's just headcannon like you said. It's in character too! I was scared about a meeting between Josuke's mom and Joseph at first, but it might actually be a good thing if they did. I think it could be really good for Tomoko if Joseph talked to her and finally gave her some closure on the whole situation. I agree, I think it was a very brief romance and it probably ended pretty abruptly. I also like to think that he only ever really loved Suzie Q....in fact, the whole affair thing has never really stopped bothering me and it feels out of character. But OH MY GOSH, that comic strip Healed! My! Heart!!!! I can't thank you enough for sharing it! I'm officially making that canon now lol! I'd like to think that even if it wasn't easy, they were able to move on from it and still be in love. I hear you about social media, I promise not to do any peaking around this artist's page even though I really love her art/story style just from that one strip. I would absolutely love it if you could send me some more links to look at! It's been really, really hard not being able to look up any fanart or anything :(((((( I'm even really careful about merch, like I was saying in my video a week or so ago. You just made my whole day!!!! ^_^

Leonie2003
>>114163170

I love to hear that you like the comic. I saved so many Jojo fanarts and Comics on my Instagram and Pinterest account and I want to share the best ones with you. From the same artist here are three more super cute comics with Joseph and Shizuka ( the baby). I think you will like them. https://www.instagram.com/p/CQg41cRHqrr/?img_index=1 https://www.instagram.com/p/CRW9hcKLm8R/?img_index=1 https://www.instagram.com/p/CRo_G2LCQNR/?img_index=1 Enjoy!

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm broken down in tears right now haha!!! The first one was so cute and the last two were beautiful and just destroyed me :'D Thank you so much!!! I think I'll take a few minutes to stare at my Joseph/Caesar poster now :'D

Leonie2003
>>114163170

there are indeed very beautiful. The artist has a faible for making headcanons of Jojo that get under your skin and give you goosebumps. I love the creativity and talent of the fandom to create such great works. Sadly, I have no talent for drawing at all, though I have many headcanons that unfortunately can never be visualized. To lighten up your mood a bit, I'm sending you these great comics of how Part 1 was supposed to go. https://www.instagram.com/p/CGA13Uxnjwk/?img_index=1 https://www.instagram.com/p/CHtFw_mnoZd/?img_index=1 https://www.instagram.com/p/CM2k0w4BJ2d/?img_index=4 Sorry for the spam:)

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

I just love them! What a talented artist and writer! I hear you, I stopped drawing a long time ago so I'm no good at it really, but all the imaginings are still there!! AWWWWWW!!!! I love those!!! I always felt bad for Dio losing his mom and having to watch her suffer at the hands of his dad, even if it was hard to relate to the person he'd become by the time we get to know him in Part 1. If only Mary had been there!!! I love the idea of all that hate being turned into love. It's sad to think he probably just yearned for a mother. The last one just about killed me!!! Danny!!!! <33333 Oh, I really can't thank you enough - this is the furthest thing from spam, it's Happy Mail for sure :D

Leonie2003
>>114163170

I'm so glad you like the comics as much as I do. I can finally share them with someone. Just wait until we get to Part 5. Then there will be a Happy Mail from me every day, since there are so many great comics from that part and I so wish they were canon. You've been drawing... that's awesome. Why did you stop? It would have been so great if Mary Joestar was still alive. There is some great fanart of Dio as a grandpa playing with young Joseph and his life as part of the Joestar family. I'm really not a fan of Dio but these comics still make me very happy in some way.

Senpai
>>114130120

I've seen people spoil the fate of certain characters by the end of this part. :c

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

I'm happy about it too, they really make my day! Oh I can't wait!!!! I'll look forward to them for sure :D Thank you! Well, I still really love drawing, I suppose it's just not enough time in the day? I should really get back to it! I agree, I would have loved for Mary to live for so many reasons! Oh, that fanart sounds so sweet!!! Awwwww!! I hear you, I've never thought of Dio in that way so it's a whole different perspective! So wholesome!!!! ^_^

Leonie2003
>>114163170

These comics are from another very talented artist but be careful, she draws the characters so attractively that you stare at the pictures for an eternity ( I count myself among them). https://www.instagram.com/p/CFswoowFXI1/?img_index=3 https://www.instagram.com/p/CIrHsZhFFS-/?img_index=3 I mean look at this Joseph art, now I can understand why Tomoko choose him. https://www.instagram.com/p/CGGVI_WFekD/?img_index=1

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

Oh wow!!!! That artist is also super talented and I've gotta agree about the attractiveness levels!!! WHOA that last one hahaha!! I mean, it can't be said that Tomoko doesn't have good tastes, that's for sure!!! :O I love the first two as well, they're so sweet!!!! How I wish it could have turned out that way! Older Jonathan made me feel so wistful too - I would have loved for him to live as long as Joseph has!!!!!!! Thank you so much for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leonie2003
>>114163170

no problem. I am very happy if I can put a smile on your face. This is also my job as a loyal Patreon. And if you want to see any specific fanart without spoilers from Jojo, I'm happy to pick out the best for you.💖

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

Aww thank you so much, you most definitely did!! :D Awww well you do your job incredibly well hehe! I am really glad you decided to join me here on Patreon!!!! ^_^ Oh thank you for the offer, I'd love that! I'd really like to see some realistic fanart, it helps me to try and picture what everyone would look like in real life!!! I know I'll enjoy anything you pass along! It's been fun being able to read the awesome comic strips you sent me! By the way, I wanted to let you know that I came across some Jojo "ASMR" on YouTube - I love listening to ASMR while I work on homework and crochet and whatnot, and decided to look up just the characters that I know from the show (so as to avoid spoilers). There are some pretty fun ones out there!!! They're not exactly ASMR but more like recorded scenarios and roleplays. I thought you might get a kick out of some of the Joseph and Jonathan ones out there!! If you search for "JJBA [character name] ASMR" they should pop up!

Leonie2003
>>114163170

thank you for your praise. I'll look into the Jojo ASMR in a moment. I've never heard of it and I am really looking forward to it. By the way, there is also Joestar Radio on YouTube. There, the characters' VA talk about funny moments in Jojo in her character's role. It is of course in Japanese with English subtitles. There are 3-4 episodes per part. I can highly recommend it. Here is Link for The First Episode. https://youtu.be/6w5Ep9J9S9Y

Tyler Stobbe

“I just want a episode with lighthearted fun stuff.” After the episode: Me listening to her gush realizing this episode dealt with near-deaths of a baby and Joseph as well: “Hmm… maybe think twice about how specific you need to be before asking this show for stuff?” 😆 The overall arching plot of the episode seems to be a comedy technique where Joseph and Josuke keep misinterpreting each other, especially Josuke. It looks like Joseph is going senile, when he’s actually telling the truth. Also, an invisible baby. Just because it’s Jojo. The relationship between them is far too complicated to sort out in a couple episodes, but he’s gonna be in danger as long as he’s on the show, so you can’t have it both ways. :P Also a couple of tidbits: the radio call at the beginning talked about an engagement ring with a ruby birthstone - that severed hand from the end of last episode had such a ring. Also the two girls Josuke was trying to hide from we’re talking about the same incident as they walked by. Also, what’s with the manuscript exchange that took place? It’s almost like they were pointing it out specifically before panning over to our protagonists. And finally - don’t ever give a senior citizen your credit card… especially when he doesn’t know what he’s doing… also, is it just me or was that clerk a very shady used car salesman type? In case anyone wants to know, Joseph spent $958.09 US in current exchange rate on baby supplies. This is where everyone yells OMG at the same time. 😅 Also second reminder, the end of these episodes are safe - no preview. Same with Jujutsu Kaisen. As a matter of fact I think Kamen Rider Geats is the only show you currently need to be on preview alert for. :)

Spadeas
>>114137327

For Geats I saw two specials. 1 - Kamen Rider Punkjack: As its name suggests, it is centered on Punkjack, how he became Punkjack and behind the scenes of the DGP at that time. 2 - What the hell?! Desire Grand Prix Full of Men! I'm Ouja! : Just a ton of fun, which has no important or impactful information for the series, but you would spend 20 minutes smiling and laughing at this one.

Manny
>>114163170

Thank you so much Bellana I really needed all this. I need to absorb all this goodness to help ease the pain. 🤧

Leonie2003
>>114163170

Your welcome Manny. I'm so glad you like the comics so much.🥰

Manny

OH MY GOD! Awww he still has it ♥️ He’ll always be my favorite. From the comments it seems the baby, much like the thing with the affair, will never really be explained. It won’t ever come to light. It’s still just so out of Joseph for me. It won’t ever sit right with me but I can live with it after this episode. It kind of healed a portion of my heart knowing Josuke got to see what kind of guy his dad is. But still Joseph has to either be too senile or playing pretend for the sake of Josuke because there ain’t no way he’d ever compliment Japanese tea! 🍵 Very sweet proper introduction episode for the two. This is such odd circumstances; I couldn’t blame Josuke for feeling that way. It has to be odd knowing his father this late in his life; Late for both of them. It is kind of gloomy knowing he won’t ever see Joseph in his prime. The peak Joseph we know is no more, but he’s still in there. It’s weird when you think about the perspective. You dad is usually seen as the strongest man you know. As a child you see how they tackle things, how their mental fortitude works in harsh situations. As you get older, others simply see an old man, while you see time taking its toll on the strongest man you know. And the old self just withering away. That’s unfortunate he won’t ever see him in his heyday but like you said he definitely had a father figure in his grandpa. And that’s probably another reason he grew up to be such a great kid. I don’t think there’ was any dishonesty in Josuke’s dialect when talking about why he wouldn’t get along with Joseph. I think the cold reception really was because he cares deeply for his moms sake; we’ve seen first hand how she’d react to seeing Joseph. And we know how much he loves his mom but Josuke himself seems pretty content with his life, no use in changing it now. It sounds harsher the way I’m stating it but you know what I mean. But he never really makes it seem like somethings missing. Anyways it was really cool seeing even older Joseph comeback a bit and bond. Except for the wallet part, I think he’s glad he got to know Joseph now. I’m really curious to see what kind of relationship they’ll have after this but it’s going to be great for Josuke to have someone else on his side through this chaos. Honestly I kind of want to see Joseph stay but we’ve had scares during last season and that bluff during the finale of tendency that I don’t want another one. I don’t care if he’s lived a long life, I want him safe at home. We made it this far without him dying. Let’s keep it that way. Just let him rest and be with Avdol, Kakyoin and Iggy later 🙏

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

Bellana - sounds good! Hope you like it!! The ones by Birdie are really well done and there's one by another YouTuber, Daisuke something or other, that's really good lol. OMG!!! I'd love to check out Joestar Radio!!! Thank you so much!!! I can't wait!!!!!!!

kamenriderhime
>>114208916

Hahaha I mean to be fair, for this show, that's still pretty lighthearted :P I know, it's a comedy of errors, which we already knew that they love on this show. I hear you, a part of me wants him to stick around so they can get to know each other, but I'm not sure my anxiety can handle him being in constant danger lol. Ohhh yeah, I've been hearing that about how the scenes are connected, thanks for reminding me! That's so funny that they're dropping little tidbits. Yeah I'm not sure about the manuscript but I think it's gonna be important! OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!! That is a lot of money lol!!!! Oh dear....poor Josuke :P Thanks so much for the reminder, I think you're right that Geats is the only one with a preview right now!!!

kamenriderhime (edited)

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2023-08-08 19:21:02 OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!! Hahahah yes he does!! Me too, I absolutely adore him, it's just impossible for me not to. Yeah I think it's a shame they don't flesh all of it out more, if for nothing else than our peace of mind lol. OMG I am so happy to hear someone else say that it just does not add up!!! Quite honestly, right up until Joseph showed up in this part I was pretty miffed as to why Josuke couldn't just be the younger Kujo brother. It changes next to nothing about the story and you've got a decent setup with the idea that Jotaro and his family possibly want Josuke in a more "quiet" environment where Jotaro can teach him about his Stand and maybe keep him out of the kind of trouble he was getting into as a teen. Plus Morioh actually is an oceanside town so he could be doing his marine biology thing there. But after seeing this ep, I do love the dynamic of Joseph and Josuke as father/son. But not knowing any of the details sort of kills me lol. The best I can do to help myself sleep at night about it is to add into my own head canon that he and Suzi were separated for a while when it happened. It's still not great, and he should have told her after, but at the very least it takes it from this whole affair happening totally out of the blue, which is so out of character for Joseph, to putting him in a position where he was maybe hurting and not in a good place because of being apart from Suzi, and maybe not making the best decisions. It eases some of the pain for me at least lol. Sorry, that was long haha!! OMG I know, as soon as he said something nice about Japanese tea or coffee I'm like WHO ARE YOU!!! Haha! I know, you can't blame Josuke for feeling that way! I knoooow, it's gloomy for sure to think he won't know the Joseph that we all know :/ He's still in there, but not exactly, I hear you. OMG, reading what you read about dads legit got me teared up!!! It's so sad but true! It's almost impossible for the world to see what we knew of our aging dads (and other relatives) once they get to that stage. At least Josuke had his grandpa like you said. I agree, I don't get any anger from Josuke either, I just don't think this has the deep meaning to him in the way some would think; instead he's more concerned for his mom. He's grown up this way and there's a saying that you can't miss what you never had - his mom on the other hand, would probably still have a pretty emotional reaction to seeing Joseph again. The only positive thing I think might come out of that is if his mom finally got some closure. Something gives me the idea that whatever they had going ended pretty abruptly. Hahah yeah except for the money part, I think Josuke's experience has been pretty positive and it's always good to have someone else on your side when dealing with craziness like this! OMG I hear you, like I honest to God feel so torn because I'd love to see Joseph more, yet at the same time, I'm so worried he's gonna trip and fall or something lol, say nothing about if we start involving more Stand related craziness here. Aww so well said! I just want it to be peaceful and quiet and then the next thing he knows, he's with all his friends again - Caesar, Avdol, Iggy, Kakyoin, etc. &lt;3333
2023-08-01 13:48:39 OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!! Hahahah yes he does!! Me too, I absolutely adore him, it's just impossible for me not to. Yeah I think it's a shame they don't flesh all of it out more, if for nothing else than our peace of mind lol. OMG I am so happy to hear someone else say that it just does not add up!!! Quite honestly, right up until Joseph showed up in this part I was pretty miffed as to why Josuke couldn't just be the younger Kujo brother. It changes next to nothing about the story and you've got a decent setup with the idea that Jotaro and his family possibly want Josuke in a more "quiet" environment where Jotaro can teach him about his Stand and maybe keep him out of the kind of trouble he was getting into as a teen. Plus Morioh actually is an oceanside town so he could be doing his marine biology thing there. But after seeing this ep, I do love the dynamic of Joseph and Josuke as father/son. But not knowing any of the details sort of kills me lol. The best I can do to help myself sleep at night about it is to add into my own head canon that he and Suzi were separated for a while when it happened. It's still not great, and he should have told her after, but at the very least it takes it from this whole affair happening totally out of the blue, which is so out of character for Joseph, to putting him in a position where he was maybe hurting and not in a good place because of being apart from Suzi, and maybe not making the best decisions. It eases some of the pain for me at least lol. Sorry, that was long haha!! OMG I know, as soon as he said something nice about Japanese tea or coffee I'm like WHO ARE YOU!!! Haha! I know, you can't blame Josuke for feeling that way! I knoooow, it's gloomy for sure to think he won't know the Joseph that we all know :/ He's still in there, but not exactly, I hear you. OMG, reading what you read about dads legit got me teared up!!! It's so sad but true! It's almost impossible for the world to see what we knew of our aging dads (and other relatives) once they get to that stage. At least Josuke had his grandpa like you said. I agree, I don't get any anger from Josuke either, I just don't think this has the deep meaning to him in the way some would think; instead he's more concerned for his mom. He's grown up this way and there's a saying that you can't miss what you never had - his mom on the other hand, would probably still have a pretty emotional reaction to seeing Joseph again. The only positive thing I think might come out of that is if his mom finally got some closure. Something gives me the idea that whatever they had going ended pretty abruptly. Hahah yeah except for the money part, I think Josuke's experience has been pretty positive and it's always good to have someone else on your side when dealing with craziness like this! OMG I hear you, like I honest to God feel so torn because I'd love to see Joseph more, yet at the same time, I'm so worried he's gonna trip and fall or something lol, say nothing about if we start involving more Stand related craziness here. Aww so well said! I just want it to be peaceful and quiet and then the next thing he knows, he's with all his friends again - Caesar, Avdol, Iggy, Kakyoin, etc. <3333
>>114219203

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!! Hahahah yes he does!! Me too, I absolutely adore him, it's just impossible for me not to. Yeah I think it's a shame they don't flesh all of it out more, if for nothing else than our peace of mind lol. OMG I am so happy to hear someone else say that it just does not add up!!! Quite honestly, right up until Joseph showed up in this part I was pretty miffed as to why Josuke couldn't just be the younger Kujo brother. It changes next to nothing about the story and you've got a decent setup with the idea that Jotaro and his family possibly want Josuke in a more "quiet" environment where Jotaro can teach him about his Stand and maybe keep him out of the kind of trouble he was getting into as a teen. Plus Morioh actually is an oceanside town so he could be doing his marine biology thing there. But after seeing this ep, I do love the dynamic of Joseph and Josuke as father/son. But not knowing any of the details sort of kills me lol. The best I can do to help myself sleep at night about it is to add into my own head canon that he and Suzi were separated for a while when it happened. It's still not great, and he should have told her after, but at the very least it takes it from this whole affair happening totally out of the blue, which is so out of character for Joseph, to putting him in a position where he was maybe hurting and not in a good place because of being apart from Suzi, and maybe not making the best decisions. It eases some of the pain for me at least lol. Sorry, that was long haha!! OMG I know, as soon as he said something nice about Japanese tea or coffee I'm like WHO ARE YOU!!! Haha! I know, you can't blame Josuke for feeling that way! I knoooow, it's gloomy for sure to think he won't know the Joseph that we all know :/ He's still in there, but not exactly, I hear you. OMG, reading what you read about dads legit got me teared up!!! It's so sad but true! It's almost impossible for the world to see what we knew of our aging dads (and other relatives) once they get to that stage. At least Josuke had his grandpa like you said. I agree, I don't get any anger from Josuke either, I just don't think this has the deep meaning to him in the way some would think; instead he's more concerned for his mom. He's grown up this way and there's a saying that you can't miss what you never had - his mom on the other hand, would probably still have a pretty emotional reaction to seeing Joseph again. The only positive thing I think might come out of that is if his mom finally got some closure. Something gives me the idea that whatever they had going ended pretty abruptly. Hahah yeah except for the money part, I think Josuke's experience has been pretty positive and it's always good to have someone else on your side when dealing with craziness like this! OMG I hear you, like I honest to God feel so torn because I'd love to see Joseph more, yet at the same time, I'm so worried he's gonna trip and fall or something lol, say nothing about if we start involving more Stand related craziness here. Aww so well said! I just want it to be peaceful and quiet and then the next thing he knows, he's with all his friends again - Caesar, Avdol, Iggy, Kakyoin, etc. <3333

Manny
>>114219203

Yes to all this! 🙌 Don’t ever be sorry with paragraph two. When I tell you I needed all that fan art content up there from Bellana to heal my heart I meant it👆 I love this season so far but it’s that one thing I have the hardest part getting passed. I just want clarification. It wouldn’t change anything but really really wish we’d get answers. I also lost sleep because of it you have no idea lol. Even when it’s not Jojo day I still think long and hard about this. I’m definitely keeping that head canon; it’s the most realistic way it would go in my opinion. That’s been on my mind since you said it because it really isn’t something I can see him ever doing out of his own fruition. That’s the biggest part of it, it’s just not Joseph. And yes thank you! Josuke as a younger Kujo brother would have been sooooooo much more reasonable and definitely wouldn’t have changed the story that much! I mean he could have made Tomoko like an aunt or something in Morioh who Josuke could stay with while he’s being taught by Jotaro. That family is filled with rich people and delinquency that I’d by them being able to cast a son away for his own benefit; especially when training to take on enemy stands. Lol and that also fits so well because of Jotaro’s profession as a marine biologist. That is so genius I haven’t even thought of that haha! See it all ties together so perfectly Araki! It really just makes me feel better about the whole thing. Especially now that I can’t be mad at Joseph, that jerk (I love him). 😖 💓

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2023-08-19 10:05:29 Yay!! Thanks for that!! Omg Bellana just made both our days with that right!! Same, I love this season but that's just been hanging over me. OMG I'm so sorry you've been upset about it too but at the same time I'm glad I'm not the only one who's just be stewing over it lol. I'm glad you like my head canon about it! It's so not him, especially not just out of the blue like that! Exactly, the story has to change very very little in order to make that plot work right? I could totally buy them sending their kid to stay somewhere else, it's actually something I see a lot in slice of life anime anyway, and there's for sure enough fodder to make the whole thing work, what with Jotaro having gotten into some scrambles as a kid and all. Doesn't it fit so well that Morioh just happens to be on the ocean!!! Like dang, they had it all laid out there haha. I know, it literally only changes the drastic alteration to Joseph's character, which is a good thing. OMG I know, like we'd have to retroactively be made at him in SDC, which is closer to when it happened, and I can't do that either :P I love him too, mistakes and all he is still the absolute light of my life &lt;333
2023-08-02 14:01:48 Yay!! Thanks for that!! Omg Bellana just made both our days with that right!! Same, I love this season but that's just been hanging over me. OMG I'm so sorry you've been upset about it too but at the same time I'm glad I'm not the only one who's just be stewing over it lol. I'm glad you like my head canon about it! It's so not him, especially not just out of the blue like that! Exactly, the story has to change very very little in order to make that plot work right? I could totally buy them sending their kid to stay somewhere else, it's actually something I see a lot in slice of life anime anyway, and there's for sure enough fodder to make the whole thing work, what with Jotaro having gotten into some scrambles as a kid and all. Doesn't it fit so well that Morioh just happens to be on the ocean!!! Like dang, they had it all laid out there haha. I know, it literally only changes the drastic alteration to Joseph's character, which is a good thing. OMG I know, like we'd have to retroactively be made at him in SDC, which is closer to when it happened, and I can't do that either :P I love him too, mistakes and all he is still the absolute light of my life <333
>>114219203

Yay!! Thanks for that!! Omg Bellana just made both our days with that right!! Same, I love this season but that's just been hanging over me. OMG I'm so sorry you've been upset about it too but at the same time I'm glad I'm not the only one who's just be stewing over it lol. I'm glad you like my head canon about it! It's so not him, especially not just out of the blue like that! Exactly, the story has to change very very little in order to make that plot work right? I could totally buy them sending their kid to stay somewhere else, it's actually something I see a lot in slice of life anime anyway, and there's for sure enough fodder to make the whole thing work, what with Jotaro having gotten into some scrambles as a kid and all. Doesn't it fit so well that Morioh just happens to be on the ocean!!! Like dang, they had it all laid out there haha. I know, it literally only changes the drastic alteration to Joseph's character, which is a good thing. OMG I know, like we'd have to retroactively be made at him in SDC, which is closer to when it happened, and I can't do that either :P I love him too, mistakes and all he is still the absolute light of my life <333

Leonie2003
>>114219203

I understand your frustration with the hole Joseph and Josuke thing. That was also my reason at the time why it took me a while to like Part 4. Unfortunately, the affair of Joseph is never really explored and explained in detail by Araki (which is typical for his romantic storytelling). But especially in this case I would have liked to see more details. I only know that Araki had difficulties to continue writing after Part 3 and these ideas also mostly came from other people, which he then pushed through. He deeply regrets this decision because, as you have already said, it does not fit Joseph's character and it also made many fans angry. But that's why there are headcanons and fancomics that can make the whole thing much nicer. And so that you Manny can sleep properly again, I'll cheer you and Melissa up a bit every week with great fanarts.😘🥰

Leonie2003
>>114163170

So I've watched/listened to a few of Birdie's videos now and I have to say I really liked them. It is very strange to hear your favorite characters in English and with a different voice, but Birdie has such a great and soothing voice that this is not so noticeable. Thanks for the great recommendation.❤️

kamenriderhime
>>114219203

Aww yeah I can totally see how that made Part 4 a bit harder to get through at first! Honestly you guys have helped me immensely just by chatting with me about it (and also the wonderful fanart!!). It is typical for Araki to not mention much more about that type of thing isn't it. And honestly I think it weirdly makes me feel a bit better that it was more of a constraint when it comes to writing, as opposed to something he really thought fit the character. Incidentally, if anyone wants to hear about the chart of all the ways we could have gotten (and could still get) another Joestar, I'd be happy to share lol :P It's not exactly comforting to hear that he regretted the decision, but in a way it kind of is lol. I agree that at least some details would have helped. (Which is why I added the "separation" thing to my own head canon.) I agree that the comics and head canons do help!!! Thank you so much Bellana for sending them on a regular basis, that makes me so happy!!!! I actually meant to mention it in my video today but I forgot and talked too much about some of my latest Jojo merch, sorry lol. But it truly means a lot and I'm loving the art/comics :D

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

Oh yay!!!! I meant to warn you, they're an imitation of the English dub voice lol. I've seen a few clips of the dub now and it was SO WEIRD to hear at first lol!!! I agree that Birdie's voice is nice and he did a great job!!! My faves are the ones where Joseph saves you in the alley, and the one where you help him get Holly ready for school. I was blushing pretty hard after listening!!! >.< I'm so glad you enjoyed them!! I also wanted to let you know I listened to ep 1 of Joestar Radio!!! That was so much fun! I loved hearing some of the behind-the-scenes info, as well as them reading the fanmail, and the parts where they spoken in English!!! So fun!! Thank you for sharing!!!! ^_^

Leonie2003
>>114163170

I´ve heard that Joseph one too. It was so much fun. I couldn't really take it seriously. But at the same moment I had a little fangirl attack. It was so sweet. Most of all I listened to the videos of my second favorite Jojo (Part 5). They were so good too. I blushed so much . I'm glad you like the Jojo Radio. The VA do a fantastic job at making you laugh. The Battle Tendency part is so well done too.

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

Oh nice!! Hahaha I hear you about the fangirl attack!!! ^_^ Ohhhh I can't wait to listen to those once I get to Part 5!!!! Hehehe glad you liked them! I need to listen to the Battle Tendency part next for sure!!! The VAs for the first ep did such an amazing job, I'm dying to hear Joseph's VA next!!!!

Leonie2003
>>114163170

Josephs VA is such a funny person. When you saw the Joestar Radio video, then you already saw how the Part 5 Jojo looks like. He is such a cutie. I mean in Part 4 I also had a big crush on Josuke but then Part 5 came and changed everything. On Youtube there are videos where someone animated parts of the Joestar radio. I'll be happy to link them to you. The artist has also drawn on Instragram great comics that I will soon present. Be prepared! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StrYxrAkP3M&list=PLJsW_KtkwVLvwb07hSI46jTs6ChNrdpRm&index=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBBQotBLYw&list=PLJsW_KtkwVLvwb07hSI46jTs6ChNrdpRm&index=3

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

I can't wait to hear him!! Omg thank you so much for the links!!!! That's so cool that some of them are animated, wow!!! Yes, and I'd already seen photos of him before actually, when Part 5 was still coming out brand new on Crunchyroll (I think it might have been before I even started my channel)!! Plus his merch is everywhere lol. He's very cute! So is Josuke! Wow now I really can't wait for Part 5 haha. Ohhhh I cannot wait for those comics!!! Thank you again so much!! By the way, have you ever heard of a game called "Joestar Struck"? Apparently it's a dating sim game where you go to high school with a bunch of Jojo's - I only saw a few clips with characters who I already know, but I didn't wanna look into the game too much because I'm not sure if there are any later Jojo's included...!!! It looked pretty interesting from the clips I saw haha!!

Leonie2003
>>114163170

Actually I never heard of the game before but it sounds very promising. I had a look and saw that this game can be downloaded for free. I think I know what I'm going to play all evening🤩😅. I have the last few days always played Sims 4 in which I let the complete Joestar family and my own character live in a house togehter. I can tell you that's a lot of fun . But this game sounds even better. Part 5 is the most popular part in Japan. No wonder you've seen so many things before it. Strangely part 5 Jojo is the least favorite next to Jonathan. I can't tell you the reasons for that yet. But the fact is that I can't agree with these opinions.

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

Ohhhh I hope you enjoy it!!! I'd love to hear how it was lol! No kidding, I didn't know you could do that in Sims!!! That does sound like fun! That's interesting about Part 5, I feel like that's the one I see all the merch for here in the US. I can't wait to hear your reasoning for it once we get to Part 5!!! I'm really excited for it!

Leonie2003
>>114163170

For the Sims 4 there are so much custom contend and mods for Jojo, it´s unbelievable. This makes the Sims look very similar to their characters from the anime. I´m so excited to see your reactions for Part 5. But Part 4 will also be really thrilling.

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

That's amazing!!! Wow!! It sounds like fun! Aww thank you, I hope you love all my reactions! By the way, I watched the animatics up through Stardust Crusaders and they were hilarious and so cute haha!!! I was laughing my head off at the part where they talked about Dio's VA trying to be friendlier haha. Also Joseph's VA's regular voice is deeper than I expected, and Jotaro's VA's voice is not as deep as I expected!!!! It's interesting lol!

Leonie2003
>>114163170

I know, these animations are fantastic. I feel you, the va´s sounds very different from what you expect in normal life. But this is what makes it so funny. My favorite part is when Joseph and Caesar make fun of Kars. They express the exact same thoughts about him that I had. But the one about Dio's Va is so legendary too. I hope Manny can see the videos too. we need to cheer him/her up a bit after all the drama with Joseph.

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

They really are!!! Isn't that interesting how the real voices differ from the character voices! Oh that part was amazing too hahah!!!! Oh that's such a sweet idea, maybe I'll paste the links down below in the thread with Manny's comments!! It's too bad there isn't a way to "tag" people in posts on Patreon!

kamenriderhime
>>114219203

PS - Bellana shared these with me and wanted you to see them too!! They're from a radio show hosted by the VA's of different Jojo characters, and someone animated some clips to go along with what they were saying lol!! Enjoy!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StrYxrAkP3M&list=PLJsW_KtkwVLvwb07hSI46jTs6ChNrdpRm&index=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBBQotBLYw&list=PLJsW_KtkwVLvwb07hSI46jTs6ChNrdpRm&index=3

Leonie2003
>>114163170

That's really a good idea with the links. I agree with you, Patreon really needs to work a bit more on the comment functions.

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

Thanks!! I just posted them in Manny's comment thread below! I know, it would be cool if it worked a bit more like a social media platform. I know Discord is popular for creating more of a community atmosphere too, I just haven't started one or looked into it yet!

Leonie2003
>>114163170

I can only recommend Discord. Many content creators on Patreon use Discord to communicate with their community. I am also active on many servers. If you want, I can help you if you want to build your own discord community.

Manny
>>114219203

Yes thank you so much Bellana it really did help me a lot! And aw you’re welcome Mel and thanks too! It really does help having people to vent too when somethings really bugging you. It’s one of those its “not the end of the world” type things, but to you personally it kind of is; and I really need an outlet for those moments. I don’t think I’ve ever had it this bad with a show before lol I finally got some decent night sleep after seeing all this. Yeah oddly it does make it easier knowing he had some inspiration writers block to continue the line as opposed to wanting to write it that way. I mean him regretting it is the best out come if anything I guess. In a way it does ease the pain. I’m feeling better already hearing that. I’m so glad many feel this way too. Maybe after season four I can start digging into more head cannons and fan comics. That’ll be fun! That being said, YES Hime, I’m more than glad to here them! I’m all ears!👂 Don’t hold back in these chats please. I crave more haha XD Thanks to both of you! I’m having a blast with all the fanart and yay I’m gonna start watching these vids asap they look so cute *squee 🥰

kamenriderhime
>>114163170

Oh awesome!!! I'll have to look into it more! Thanks :D And that's so kind of you!! I'll definitely let you know if I start one!!!!

kamenriderhime
>>114219203

Aww yay!!! I agree, it does help! Yeah for sure, I hear you - it's just really frustrating when something takes away from a show/fandom you love!! Hahaha same, like I've given this LOTS of thought, like an embarrassing amount :P I think it helps to know that about Araki too. I feel better too, knowing it's not his first choice or what he considers his best choice. I know, I can't wait for more fanart!!! XD YAY!!!!! I'm so happy you wanna hear them haha!! Ok I'm gonna wrap up some homework this morning and then I'll jump back in with my flow chart lol! It might be fun to have it all written out, especially if one of the ideas happens to pop up at some point! XD Awww yay, so happy you enjoy chatting about this series as much as I enjoy watching it/chatting about it! Enjoy the vids and fanart, squeeee!!!! ^_^

kamenriderhime
>>114219203

Okay I'm back!!! Here's what I came up with for allllll the ways to get another Jojo!!! ---So first off, I ruled out anything too hokey like someone had a twin separated at birth or something hahah.--- I'll start chronologically: 1) I might be wrong on this, but was it ever specifically said that Jonathan's dad had like no siblings whatsoever? I had the theory way back in Part 2 when I wasn't sure if Joseph would make it out or not, that they might swerve us and introduce Jonathan's cousin's descendants or something. This does add an awful lot more people into the mix though! I have some concerns about how many more parts there are versus not many years left to time jump though, so maybe they'll still use this one.... 2) So in addition to there being a younger Kujo sibling, I also thought of the fact that Holly could have had a baby really young that no one knew about and she gave up for adoption. It seems like the two major factors in getting another Jojo for part 4 were 1) no one could have known about this person during SDC and 2) they'd have to be born at a certain time in order to be a teen when it was being written. This would technically fill the bill on both counts if we were following the kid of that kid, but the part that doesn't add up to me is that even if this happened, I don't think Holly would have not told anyone at all. Joseph and Suzi just don't seem like the type to turn their backs on her if she got pregnant really young! But it's still something that crossed my mind! 3) You've heard this one - the younger Kujo brother theory. I personally think it's the best alternative, but I'm guessing there are two main reasons it didn't get used. 1) the main protagonist would be too young (only about 11 or so if it happened right after SDC), and maybe that wouldn't sit right with all the crazy situations the main characters get put into. Not that that ever stopped Araki from putting Anne in crazy situations lol, but still! 2) I get the idea that Araki doesn't like to repeat himself. If there's gonna be a new Jojo, he's gotta be NEW - like same bloodline, but totally different story in a way. 4) My Dio/Jonathan baby theory which I thought was just so clever! I wish they'd used it :( But I feel like the time to use it would have been Part 4. Then again, like I said earlier, we're running out of time to time jump, so maybe it will still happen! 5) Moving forward, I think Jotaro having a kid would be the natural next step! The only problem I can't figure out is how the timing will work. If he has a kid shortly after this story, we'll still need to time jump close to 2 decades, which would put the story in the late 20-teens, but there are still 2 more parts after that! So where do those other Jojo's come from.....?! It's a work in progress theory haha. There's also the possibility - and this would be a BIG twist - that Jotaro ALREADY has a kid in Part 4 right now!!! I mean, he hasn't said he's single and/or doesn't have kids, and it seems like he might not volunteer that info unless he was specifically asked. Hmmm.... 6) For the future, there's also now the possibility that Josuke will have kids, but again that's gonna have to take place in like 2024 or something at the earliest to really work! My nightmare scenario is that all the future Jojo's will come from side chicks that Joseph had stashed all over the world. LOL!!!!! It's too horrific to think about!!! D: I think that's all of them haha. Thanks for taking the time to read this!!!! Hope you liked it!!! ^_^

Manny
>>114219203

Very very interesting. 1. I dont know for sure if George Joestar I had any siblings. I’m sure it’s never stated if he did or didn’t. His family tree isn’t as complicated as the rest though. (Sigh simple times 😮‍💨). Looking up his family tree is pretty standard. Son, adopted son, wife, daughter in law etc. No mention of it, so it could be possible; it’s just never brought up how much family he has to begin with. We only know what’s given starting with him; so it’s plausible, it’s just not mentioned to us. 2. Wow you pulled out all the stops with this one. This definitely would fit in with the rest. And with out-of-the-blue circumstances that were pulled in part 4, it actually might be possible this could have been another way to go. Oddly yes both Suzi and Joseph wouldn’t be the types to turn their backs on their own daughter, yet same time the unlike Joseph stuff was written anyways so 🤷‍♂️ But that was part 3 so I don’t think Araki had run out of ideas yet on how to continue, so Holly not telling anyone and them not helping her out with her pregnancy still seem like they could be on the table maybe, but I definitely like this one. 3. Yes! The reason I’m able to sleep soundly again. With Anne, there’s no doubt in my mind Araki wouldn’t have a problem with putting someone so young in odd and troublesome situations as dark as Jojo’s adventures go. I’m also thinking number two has to be the reason he went the route he did. Jonathan, then grandson, then grandson & now young uncle. We now have a handful of joestars but I need to see how complicated these other joestars will be to confirm how much he likes to get creative with these newer ones. It makes the most sense. I just wish he’d gotten creative just one generation later. 😭 4. I loved this one! This one and number 3 may be neck and neck. I just watched the manga artist episode. Rohan needs to use this one for his books ☝️😆 it’s genius 5. I haven’t even thought of Jotaro’s family life. Maybe I did when we first saw him in four but got blindsided by the bizarreness. We’ll see. That’s all I can say right now. 6. 2024! Man I wonder how this will end. Maybe it won’t, like One Piece. I’m trying not to run wild with thoughts but this show is making it so hard. The latest episodes are making me think differently about this one, but I’m trying so hard not to. 😅😲😮‍💨 Lol no! I get he aged like fine wine but it’d be a complete 180 from no game young Joseph haha. Which is why I love Suzi. She loved him regardless of his weird lips 🥰 This was fun. These were really clever and so good. Honestly anything could really go in the series which makes it hard to say if “plot holes” could even exist. I mean so much unpredicted and unexplained stuff happens so often I’d buy any of these if they were in there. Hell just do Araki’s job for him already MH I think he needs the assistance in this area. ✍️

kamenriderhime
>>114219203

I'm so glad you liked them!! Yeah I feel like there's some wiggle room with George I's history, at least! I'm glad you like the Holly one!!! I definitely can't see Suzi and Joseph not helping her if they knew, but it was a very different time and she may have just been really scared, so who knows. My mind went to all sorts of places haha, I left no stone unturned!!! Yeah my favorite is definitely the younger Kujo brother one!!! I feel like he still would have made it super weird even with a younger kid as the protagonist lol. But yeah, I think he just wanted to do something different. I'm so glad you like the Dio/Jonathan one too, I hope Rohan uses it at least hahaha!! Yeah that's the thing, like we don't know Jotaro *doesn't* have a family or at least a kid! He keeps to himself a lot, basically all we know is that he's a marine biologist and he's here lol. I know, I have so many questions on how it will all work!!! Part of me hopes it never ends lol! I hear One Piece might be wrapping up soon too, isn't that crazy. Hahaha I know, I would just be crushed if the side chick theory was true lol!!! It would be a total 180!!!! Suzi loved him even when he couldn't get a girlfriend, it's so true!!! I'm so glad you had fun with it!! I think you could definitely make anything work, the explanations are pretty vague on this show! Hahahha I'd be happy to be Araki-sensei's assistant!!! Heck, all I do is think up theories for this show anyway :P Lol thank you Manny for reading and for all your feedback!!!! ^_^

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2023-08-08 19:20:59 Stand Name: Achtung Baby Stand User: Invisible Baby Name Sake: Achtung Baby (Studio Album by U2) Destructive Power: E Speed: E Range: N/A Persistence: A Precision: E Development Potential: A --- Stand Name: Hermit Purple Stand User: Joseph Joestar Name Sake: The Hermit (Tarot Card) Destructive Power: D Speed: C Range: D Persistence: D Precision: A Development Potential: E
2023-08-04 16:44:53 Stand Name: Achtung Baby Stand User: Invisible Baby Name Sake: Achtung Baby (Studio Album by U2) Destructive Power: E Speed: E Range: N/A Persistence: A Precision: E Development Potential: A --- Stand Name: Hermit Purple Stand User: Joseph Joestar Name Sake: The Hermit (Tarot Card) Destructive Power: D Speed: C Range: D Persistence: D Precision: A Development Potential: E

Stand Name: Achtung Baby Stand User: Invisible Baby Name Sake: Achtung Baby (Studio Album by U2) Destructive Power: E Speed: E Range: N/A Persistence: A Precision: E Development Potential: A --- Stand Name: Hermit Purple Stand User: Joseph Joestar Name Sake: The Hermit (Tarot Card) Destructive Power: D Speed: C Range: D Persistence: D Precision: A Development Potential: E