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Hey everyone!!!  I'm back with episode 6 of Andor!  Whoa!!!!  We completed our mission alright, but at what cost?!  Jeez!!!  We have people gone, left behind, disillusioned, taking off, etc.  Our whole team basically fell apart.  And while this was definitely important, it's not like they died in order to defeat the Empire or anything, this was just one small mission that was such a huge mountain to scale for them, most of them didn't even make it!  Our one guy's cover is totally blown now too.  Cassian might be taking off but he was decent about it.  That one guy - what the heck?!?!?!  What a self-serving traitorous jerk!!!  And he gave us the hardest time too, figures.  Dang it guys, no turning back now, we've made some big waves!  Great ep!  Enjoy!  ~ MH

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Andor 1x06 full reaction.mp4

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Tyler Stobbe

I’ve noticed you’ve been saying a phrase quite a bit in multiple reactions lately, not just this one: “please don’t die…” - I think you might be dealing with some show PTSD… 😅 As far as the episode, this one’s the payoff and is mostly action that’s been set up for weeks so… The Empire’s treatment of the Dhani doesn’t seem to be all that different from some of early American history - I don’t think you have to read too much into that, the parallels are being done intentionally. But it does show the Empire’s best tactic is to distract people so they won’t know what’s being done to them until it’s too late. Come to think of it, that’s kind of how this whole mess got started, isn’t it. Also I do find it somewhat ironic that their “reservation area” was called the “Enterprise Zone.” Do you think that was a shot? 😉 The Eye effects were pretty cool. The best laid plans never go as planned… war sucks, and so does insurgency. It’s not about those on a side, it’s about the people who get caught in the crossfire, like families. No one stops to think about the effects they’re burdened with. But the rebels can’t play soft, either. It’s an unenviable position to be in. This all would’ve gone off without a hitch if Kimzi hadn’t picked up their frequency. Taramyn and Gorn both got taken out in the hangar, I’m pretty sure, so their problems are over. Cinta escaped on foot, Nemik died due to a crazy on board accident, and Vel’s left to ponder what if. Akeem is a different story, but he brings up a point during this scene: not everyone is a believer in the cause, they’re just in it for themselves. Look how many bounty hunters we have in the movies who aren’t loyal to any side. It seems Cassian finds the idea of selling out your Allie’s somewhat distasteful, and maybe his actions will speak louder once Vel has a chance to calm down and actually consider the things he said in the infirmary. Well, guess who’s on the radar now? And as soon as his face gets plastered over the Empire… I have a feeling I know ONE person who will be very interested… someone recently unemployed… 👀

Manny

Okay that jerk had to go

Saltire

This is a damn good series. The heist was full of tension, with morals being tested from our 'rebels' during the heist and after as Cassian just point-blank shoots Skeen when he suggests they both run off with the booty. He is in a lose-lose situation though so does 'the right thing' in killing Skeen; as if he goes with him, not only would he have the Empire and Luthen and the rebels hunting him down, he won't be able to sleep wondering if Skeen will come for him too one night. Poor Nemik, the believer, was always going to be the one to go, but with giving Cassian his 'manifesto' perhaps he can inspire him to look at the bigger picture. The visuals were superb, especially as the ship makes its way through 'the Eye' being chased down by TIE's. I felt like I was watching Solo doing his Kessel Run. Mon Mothma seeing those senators with vested interests run off as news of the heist comes in, when she is speaking about trying to alleviate a situation for some world, when all the rest - those who bothered to turn up - are more interested in wondering if their own fortunes are safe. 80 million credits though will be a great boost in the coffers for the early rebel movement. The Empire will come back hard now, this has been a spark of rebellion that isn't far off catching fire; and the stakes, and the consequences, will be all the higher now. Can't wait to see where we go next.

kamenriderhime

Hahahha ya think??? :P I agree about the parallels. Oooh I didn't think about that name possibly being a shot hahaha. But yeah, the Empire knows how to manipulate. Just look at their leader and how he manipulated the entire galaxy. Yeah The Eye was awesome! That's the thing, it sucks that a family got caught in the middle, but if the Rebels go in soft whatsoever, it's just not gonna get done. It's definitely not a cut-and-dry issue, super gray area. Thanks for the update, I didn't realize Karn was taken out. That's the thing, it isn't necessarily a positive or moral good motivation. As seen with the bounty hunters like you said. Oh yeah, I wonder who that could be!!!!!!!!! :P

Nick

I haven’t seen your reactions to this series yet, and so far haven’t commented on the series. But at the weekends when I see my son we have both been watching Andor as avid Star Wars fans. We saw episode 6 today. My son gave it an 8/10 and really enjoyed it, in part because there was more action. Personally I have found the whole series so far very absorbing despite it being on a ‘slow burn’, and I particularly liked episode 6 as it followed the more gritty realism of Rogue One and presented a morally ambiguous ‘rebellion’, especially with the mother and child being taken hostage and threatened with execution so that the money could be stole successfully. I thought the episode scripted this really well, since the mother and son were presented before the heist in a very human fashion, and not obviously bad people at all. This is an aspect of the rebellion that interests me: in Rogue One (my favourite Star Wars movie by far) the rebellion is presented as one that carries out morally dubious acts for a good cause - surely realistic. However, elsewhere, in other series that for now must remain unnamed (😉) the rebellion is presented in more idealistic, more ethical terms. Close to a spoiler but hopefully vague enough to be tantalising rather than giving anything specific away!

Nick

When Cassian killed Skeen, I felt that told us as much about Cassian as it did about the morality of the situation: there was an element of ruthless self-interest in carrying out that killing (Skeen certainly wasn’t to be trusted not to betray Cassian later, and what would Skeen have done if Cassian turned down the offer of the two of them running off with the loot?). This act also perhaps indicated a particular personal sense of right and wrong in Cassian, in not wanting to betray the group/ the cause by running off with the loot - also in evidence when at the end he only wanted his share and no more, and I seem to remember he returned the blue crystal for some reason? Cassian is an interesting character because he seems quite complex. Likeable but at the same time not someone you want to get on the wrong side of, and not obviously completely trustworthy.

kamenriderhime

I agree!!! That's the thing, it's weird to say killing Skeen was the right thing to do but no matter how you slice it, it's pretty much true. Yes I felt so bad for Nemik!!! He had death flags all over the place but still. I think he'll inspire Cassian. Yeah kinda ironic about the Mon Mothma scene! That will definitely help. That's the thing, the Empire is really gonna double down now! Can't wait for more too! Nick - great assessment of Cassian and I agree that that scene told us a lot about where he stands!!!!

kamenriderhime

That's awesome, hope you and your son have been enjoying it! I think you're right that although it's a slow burn it's very immersive, and yes, there's definitely some big time gray area moral stuff going on with the rebellion here. Good point that we know them before they're kidnapped too, as just regular okay/decent people for the most part. That's a great point that depending on the story you're following, the rebellion is either do-or-die-despite-the-moral-consequences or a bit more idealistic! Hahaha I think I see where you're going and no worries, I wouldn't say that's a spoiler at all!!! :D

Nick

Just watched your reaction: glad to see you got into the groove with the dancing and music around the fire - right up your street, I’m sure :-D Am I right in saying the officer (Gorn, I think?) that was secretly aiding the rebels died in the fire fight? If he did then I somehow missed it. The fire fight was great but most of the episode was based upon tension rather than violence, which I liked as it worked really well. At one point I wondered if Cinta was secretly selling out the rebels to the empire: I’m still not 100% sure she isn’t but I think I was probably misreading various things. Based on this and a previous episode, I think Cinta and Vel are girlfriends rather than just friends? I like both these characters, and I think the actress playing Vel has been really, really good.

Nick

Yes we are both enjoying it, thank you :-) The only other thing I’ll add to my comparison with that other series is that there is an interesting conversation to have at some future point! The scenery for this and the last episode reminded me of the UK (where I live), and it prompted me to quickly Google things: apparently the Andor series was filmed in the UK and I am wondering where the filming was for the last two episodes. Skellig Michael was used as the island where Rey found Luke Skywalker in the most recent trilogy - that’s off the coast of Ireland and is a world heritage site because of the Christian monks that used to live in the ‘bee hive’ houses that Luke was living in. A stunning place to visit. The scenery in the two last Andor episodes might also be Ireland, but then again it might be Wales, Scotland, or perhaps the Lake District. Also, coincidentally, two of the Star Wars movies - A New Hope and Rogue One, we’re partly filmed at a place I used to work at many years ago: the Cardington Hangers in Bedford. It’s a small world!

Saltire

I'm not sure Lt. Gorn is dead, he may have just took a shot to the shoulder and was downed. He'd probably wish he was dead if not though. To me Cassian is not likeable, but a lead doesn't have to be likeable in order for their journey to be worth the watch, look at Tony Soprano, Vic Mackey or Walter White in their respective series. However, I do think there is a subtle change in Cassian here. There is relief he got out and the crew - whats left of them - got the credits; he isn't a believer in the cause yet, but he's not as averse to fighting against the Empire, as he was in the opening arc. Apparently the actress who plays Vel was in Game Of Thrones, I can't place her for the life of me without searching. They are all good actors though, and some are saying Cinta killed the Commandants wife and kid, which would be dark stuff indeed, as they have seen her face, and she has history with stormtroopers wiping out her family (or was that another of Skeen's lies?). I'm not sure they'll go that dark with the story, but she has been the one we know least about, so she may indeed be a stone cold killer.

Nick

I can definitely see why Cassian my not come across as likeable, and given what we have seen of him so far I think disliking him the more natural reaction. I’m not sure why I like him but I think it’s because I sense that deeper down he had some very positive qualities, including personal loyalty to people around him and a strong sense of right and wrong (not necessarily the same sense as mine), combined with bravery. He certainly also has another less likeable side to him, though. I suspect it is this mix of positive and negative characteristics that will make him a good rebel. I think that’s a good point that this mission may be the turning point for him, despite him wanting to get away at the end of episode 6: it will be interesting to see how he ends up being pulled further into the rebellion. That’s interesting about Vel - I’ve never seen Game of Thrones - for some reason it has never appealed. As for Cinta, she is a bit of a dark horse at the moment, and I wonder if we will find out more about her in future episodes: my suspicion is yes we will. And I was wondering what happened to the mother and child!

kamenriderhime

Glad to hear it! Hmm, it would be an interesting conversation!! Oh wow, so cool that it was filmed in the UK! I had no idea about the location for the site where Rey finds Luke, too - it sounds incredible! No kidding that there was actual filming done where you used to work!!! All of those places sound like beautiful and amazing locations!!!! I'd love to visit one day!

kamenriderhime

Saltire - good point, but yeah, now that his cover is blown, it's gonna be bad news for him! Hmm, interesting point about Cassian. He's definitely not in the moral-good position that many protagonists are when we start following them. Oooohhhh....that would be quite dark, yikes!!! I wonder where they'll go with that. Nick - I agree that he has some positive qualities deep down, but is definitely not being presented as a cut-and-dry morally "good" character. And true, that's probably what helps make him a good rebel. I can see this being a turning point. Very cool about the GoT tie-in too! It's not for everyone for sure though. I know, I have no clue what happened to the mom and kid, and I'd love to know more about Cinta!!!

Cody

I freaking cried during that scene of them flying through The Eye. It was one of the most visually beautiful things I’ve ever seen in Star Wars.