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It's Joever feat Ettingermentum (Premium E253) (Patreon)

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2024-07-26 19:01:33
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Biden out, Harris in. Conspiracy theories metastasize as the democratic candidate (and current President) calls it quits and coronates his Vice President. The right spreads conspiracy theories about Joe Biden being dead and replaced by a body double or some form of AI. BlueAnon chimes in with some new theories now that "their guy" is out. And we explore what's next for election season with analyst & politics writer Josh (Ettingermentum).

Thanks for subscribing to the QAA podcast on patreon.

Josh (Ettingermentum): https://www.ettingermentum.news / https://x.com/ettingermentum

Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (https://instagram.com/theyylivve / https://sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (https://pedrocorrea.com)

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QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.

Comments

Schwartz666

Yes! ❤️ Josh

Ben Ivory

Can you guys turn this pod into a really dark anti-pod save America media company?? I need it to being balance to my life.

Smooth Shrek

Joen’t stop Joeliving

Brian Lancaster

If you don't vote for Biden as a write-in you are a traitor to America

couchpatrol

He lost his Joementum.

Schwartz666

Why kick a dead Jorse?

B W

Beebop & Rock Steady 💀💀💀 omfg that takes me back

Jordan Y Clementi

He's going Jome. I can't believe anyone is saying that "he did the brave and noble thing" when he was literally sounding like Trump in the last few weeks, criticizing the media and spinning narratives to justify his worldview. Not only that but his enablers have a lot to answer for in letting it drag out like this. Fully and unabashedly Leonid Brezhnev coded behavior.

Andrew Fortson

Everytime I hear Jake say furmilieu(r) I imagine a dinner party where all the guests and furniture are covered in dense fur.

Robert Williams

Jake vs BlueAnon is always a great listen, thank you boyh!

Xpensive Cardboard

When Jake started talking about Harris being a former prosecutor, I thought he was going to talk about the jokes about her running against a felon. Instead he hangs a sharp right into her draining the swamp? um what? That just sounds nuts. She at least has me not feeling doomer-esque anymore.

Schwartz666
>>144763740

Jo'real. I keep seeing the word "selfless" thrown around too. 🙄 Joe no you di'int. *snap, snap*

ev

liv agar

bigphoton

Trump sounds pretty happy when he talks about those big, strong guys with their powerful wrists being on top of him. Yup, he enjoyed that...a lot.

Christopher Cotner

Big Mike is a reference to Michelle Obama bc they believe she used to be a man.

Josh Davis

Thought he was Biden his time, turns out it was JOEVID-19. Wild times. May the spurious J.D. Vance couchfucker story keep us all laughing through whatever happens next.

Matt Stockman

Kicking Joe out was a result of a yucky feeling in the pant-pee-ers' panties, not people who thought this was ageism. I am wondering if panelists know what normal aging looks like or what behaviors signal significant cognitive decline, scientifically, rather than according to one's gut. But more important, do any of the panelists, who all enjoy criticism as a means of self improvement I have heard JF say, know what ageing looks like in people who have neuro-developmental disorders, like Biden does?

Em

lol I can't not read this like "joe-ever"

jake noble

The jump from Trump's voice to JD's is like seeing the Hummer from Better Call Saul parked next to a Dodge Grand Caravan

C’mon
>>144772340

You mean his stutter? It’s a neuro-development disorder he overcame long before now. He also stepped down (not “kicked out”) If Biden had refused, he would be the Ticket supported by the DNC crowd. No one made him step down, even with undeniable pressure 🙂

No Relation to Henry
>>144757805

You should listen to Pod Damn America. It has the best theme song of any podcast and is all-around very good.

fuck

Cahamuluhh

Fel

We need good portmanteaus for Kamala. I’m Kamitted The Kamovala Office Uhhh Kama Kama Kama Kamaleon, which describes her politics I’m a Harris-tic

Jeremy

you aren't a marxist leninist if you followed the 80s soviet line. I remember when Liv used to do episodes about the positives of the bolsheviks. but we might as well take the liberal turn instead I guess

monkey

I mean, I guess it’s nice that you guys are finally learning how to pronounce “Kamala” correctly …almost.

Sam D.

Great. Very therapeutic.

Schwartz666
>>144774500

Even better if you say it like the kid in Sandlot.. . JOE-EV-ER, JOE-EV-VVVERRR

Justin S.

Glad you guys mentioned that absolute lunatic Jim Stewartson

C’mon
>>144771701

Oh my god, really? 🤣🤣 I didn’t know the Right said that… but I’m not even a little bit surprised 😆

Jill Pigman

I love this podcast, so much so you helped me survive the last few years. I even adapted to your opening song. (P.S. I like it but miss the old one), I appreciate you. So much. HOWEVER your coverage of this election cycle is unsatisfactory. I am a 45 year old small biz owner & woman and mom…in Ohio.

William Hallauer

Wow this dude really hates Joe Biden.

Craig C. Rennie

I don’t know why I want these people talk politics and blueanon? Really? Fuck off. I live in the land of maga and worse.

bigphoton

Was Biden the perfect candidate and POTUS ? No. Are the Dems perfect? No. Is Harris the perfect candidate? No. But I don't expect perfection. Look back in history and find one perfect POTUS. Hint, there are none. If I only voted for perfection I'd never vote. I vote for the person I think has the best judgment, character, and will make the hard decisions in the interests of the US, and the world. I was voting for Joe, but now I'll vote for Harris, because i think she'll make a better POTUS than the crawling slime on the Republican side. Does that make me a "liberal "? I could give a f#$k.

Lindsay

This is the first episode I’m not able to complete. This guest host is an asshole with unprofessional audio who isn’t even attempting to say “Kamala” correctly, yet is supposed to be the political expert? Fuck him and fuck the lack of fact checking on his cynical and biased bullshit. We used to have actual journalists to help make sense of things, like Will Sommer, and now we get some X-pilled fool multitasking on a zoom call. MSW has put out enough “blue pilled” bullshit to speak to for over an hour, she’s even been accused of participating in a catch and kill story about Epstein. But no, now we get to sit in an empty can with a troll trolling. Fuck off.

Brian Lancaster

Vance said he sees himself as Gandalf. Of course he is a white hat.

Arthur G. Pym

Julien snapping at Jake for no reason is so triggering. weird negative vibes in the pod

Patrick Hill

The guest says "like" more than my 12 year old niece. I paused the episode and haven't gone back yet. Wish me luck.

hhhhhm
>>144782698

Kronstadt rebellion massacre was pretty terribly anti working class in the sense the working class were slaughtered for wanting some liberties.

hhhhhm

Tee hee hee, new Covid variants. Light and fluffy. 💀

Michael Vader
>>144793274

Yeah I mean Julian and Livs critiques of JB were always well reasoned and evidenced. This guess seems to be going in a little too hard, he’s stepping down, the old man can’t hurt you anymore dude.

Jeff Faulkner

QAA has run its course. Stupid episode.

Leyland

As a… (that’s right, I’m doing the thing!) Listener from the first episode, I came here just to see all the 😭 I knew this ep would cause. So, thank you! It was worth it. 🤷‍♀️ Where my goose gang at?

Opal Tulpo

It’s pretty disrespectful to (purposefully?) mispronounce someone’s name. The Biden mad at Obama thing is a stretch also. I can’t believe anyone had anything to say about that. If Travis was here I think he would have.

Andrew Lenahan

This was a hard listen for me. Really disappointing takes from this episode. “It was weird that Biden dropped out via a written release” the whole reason people wanted him out is that he’s old and stumbles over his words and now it’s a problem that he puts it in writing first? Also he had covid at the time?

Andrew Lenahan

The “AOC and Bernie are “politically inept” and “fell for Biden’s bluff”” take is also laughable. There was nothing to gain by them sticking out their neck to tell Biden to drop out I feel like Travis’s absence was sorely missed on this one

Debra Wilhelm

Please don’t ever have this Josh guy on again. It was painful to listen to him babble BS with “like” between every word. Does he actually not know how to pronounce Kamala’s name or is he just an asshole?

Fuzzert

What a time to be alive when the pod's comments read like a blue wave emoji thread

monkey
>>144818975

Trump deliberately mispronounces her Indian name in order to belittle and delegitimise a woman of colour. I don’t know why Liv and the boys do it, maybe they think they’re being “edgy” or something. At this point I can’t believe it’s anything but deliberate.

WandererM101

The rare bad episode

Thomas J McMullan

I was "Ride or Die With Biden" not because I thought he was great, I just feared the fallout of him withdrawing. Too many people of the Biden Step Aside acted as though Harris did not exist, I feared a process that make 1968 look like an easy transition. That was before the conservative and Republican Rat'effers lawyers and troublemakers. That first hour after he withdraw I was frantic thinking that Orange Baboon was going to get back in. Then everybody endorsed Harris, and I am now supporting Harris. My sister donated 500 dollars to the Harris campaign I donated my 50 bucks.

hhhhhm
>>144782698

Like the ones where the Bolshevik Party undermined working class movements such as the factory committees and attempts to federalise these by the workers, using the unions to discipline them then creating state capitalism? Sure. The Bolsheviks created state capitalism. But that bit seems to... kinda... wither away in the minds of the authoritarian left, just not in reality 🤷‍♂️

Jeremy
>>144782698

Jesus your brain is melted. Have a good one screaming into the void lol

Jamie Fritz

Is there a reason this guest refuses to say Kamala correctly?

bigphoton
>>144832276

I'm relieved Biden is out. I thought he was a good POTUS. I was just concerned he didn't energize Dems. I think Harris will be a good POTUS.

Byron Lagrone

top-tier episode, awesome

Samuel Pullen

Joe wasn’t perfect….. egotistical racist mass murderers rarely are , if some ( not all ) American liberals are willing to look the other way on historical evil events abroad I don’t think they should be believed on all the other stuff they claim to care about . However even if you do believe Arab lives mean less than nothing old Joe almost lost it all for you so why the loyalty ?

Matt Stockman

I realized that the QAA team thinks that a lot of less politically involved people who voted for Biden were all true believers because they are simply not capable of political calculus. That's more true or leftists in my experience, ironically. We often sum up a person's political beliefs by the compromises they've had to make. (Why didn't Obama just shove single payer through? What a centrist! He never wanted single payer!) But anyway, it's pretty fucking elitist and snobby. It's like some crapo treehouse rubbed off on Jake or something. Is this the worst episode? I've listened to literally all of them. I didn't like mean Jake.

Irina Krier

Guys this is just a rando making up rumors while making fun of other randos making up rumors. Please do better.

Matt Stockman
>>144843228

Here's the deal Jack: In the USA your choices are the genocider (Joe) or the other genocider. What other way are liberals looking? There are two ways that I know of. Are there more? They are looking at Trump, who I believe helped set the particular conditions for this genocide along with his son in law. I don't think there is a whole lot of loyalty for Joe. Just look at his approval numbers for the last year. I personally didn't want Joe to drop out because I thought it was a bad political move. I was wrong. But that was the reason. I don't get why so many leftists assume that the cult of personality is so strong among dem types.

Andrew Lenahan

One more thing: using “BlueAnon” or “Blue MAGA” is an automatic eye roll for me, because the implicit equating of normie dems with freaks like QAnon or MAGA is gross. Normie dems are not the enemy

steaknap

This is my favorite podcast, and I say this with love in my heart: Please do not invite this guest back. He is extremely long-winded, cites zero sources for outlandish claims, and his audio sounds like it's coming from underwater in a cave on another planet.

eeyoredragon

A few min in… who tf is this guy? After a few times wondering that, I restarted the episode. Same question. Get to the end. A twitter handle, a newsletter, and a substack. So again, who tf is this guy? What connections does he have? What sources? Why isnt that the first topic in the episode?

Andrew Lenahan
>>144854914

So called political expert who can’t pronounce Kamala correctly or even consistently the same wrong way

QuillTheQueer
>>144857734

Its in the episode notes.... Josh (Ettingermentum): https://www.ettingermentum.news / https://x.com/ettingermentum

Jess C

Wow this guest is really insufferable 😭 their takes are lukewarm at best. The overly nonchalant delivery absolutely sucks, do they think they're in a gamer vc talking politics whilst waiting to queue for a match, or are they on a successful podcast? I think QAA is better than this. Love ya gang but this is an rare miss from QAA. Signed, your biggest fan in Western Australia 🧙‍♀️✨️

bigphoton
>>144857734

I hate to say this...but he just sounds like he doesn't like old people because they're old. You know...a bigot.

Jess C
>>144857734

Lol, all good questions. I hope they never have them back because it's cringe inducing listening to this person.

Leyland

Josh is cool. Great ep.

eeyoredragon
>>144857734

That’s the newsletter. And the twitter handle. There’s also a substack link. I shouldn’t have to read some guys blog to know why he’s a guest on the show. What expertise does he bring? What are his credentials? Is he just some personal friend of theirs? Maybe I should know who tf this guy is. Maybe he’s famous, and I never got the memo. Wouldn’t be the first time. Regardless, no idea who tf he is.

QuillTheQueer
>>144772340

Stuttering, also known as childhood-onset fluency disorder, is a complex neurodevelopmental disorder that causes disfluent speech.

Peter Aidan Byrne

Some of these comments are a bit joever the top, if you ask me. Anyway, great episode!

Riley Johnson

idk what's with all the negative comments i thought this was a great episode. are people really so offended on behalf of genocide joe

Donna Palermino

Inexperienced politician like Bernie? I tried to stick it out but nah, this is a lame episode, with so many seemingly unsourced claims.

Andrew Lenahan
>>144868340

To me it just feels like kind of beating a dead horse. Like we got him to drop out, better late than never

CharlieInsomnia

It only cost me five dollars, to make realize how much I don't care about any of this, anymore. You live and you learn.

Anthony koz

Please own, Shit/dunk on muellershewrote as much as possible. The name alone is enough to be a top tier villain, and she’s a top tier shit lib dipshit moron on their own terms.

James Edward Smith
>>144853923

If some one is not your enemy you can't give a sober, honest report of when and where they are acting silly?

Jess C
>>144868340

No they aren't. I'm thrilled Biden dropped out. I just think its a bad guest that makes the episode meh. People dont have to be Biden simps to dislike a random person rambling their own opinions on a podcast lol

ev
>>144872000

you liv agar and you learn agar

Chris Bernard
>>144857734

He’s a political commentator. This episode is a loose recap of news so I’m not sure what kind of expert would be necessary here.

Lula Gama

Love the pod but this ep does give off overly cynic nihilistic chapo vibes, not a great one

Tony Hatch
>>144868340

Yes cynical guest just came off weird. Bunch of statements that seem off. Maybe I’m wrong.

Brett
>>144882673

I think that’s the Democratic Party you’re referring to giving off those vibes

monkey
>>144857734

One that doesn’t have the maturity of a 12 year old?

Brett

Absolutely wild to me seeing how many libs still listen to this podcast after all these years and not getting that the joke is on them

Brett
>>144853923

People voting for Genocide Joe are absolutely part of the enemy

Jess C
>>144874518

The day MSW interviewed *Seth Abramson* is the day I entered my evil era. They really exploded their own fanbase sooooo fast. I'll always be grateful that MSW AG was such a cringe grifter lib that she taught credulous fools like me to be sceptical of podcast commentator neolib bots

Jess C
>>144793274

I am not so sure about that; in a battle of wits and concise remarks which make sense, do we know whether this guest would be able to beat Joe 💀

Andrew Lenahan
>>144853923

I’m not a “lib” but I also don’t understand why some of you guys use lib like a slur

Andrew Lenahan
>>144845207

James do you have anything of substance to add or are you just going to namecall multiple people on these comments?

ikkymann
>>144853923

And the other option is what? Not vote? The typical safe white centrist opinion.

Pdragglz

This comment section is filled with people who are offended because they are unwilling to look in the mirror and acknowledge that they are part of the problem. “Overly cynical” blah blah blah if you think this is too cynical you are fucking delusional grow up and get over it stop thinking that anyone cares if they offend you. You being offended is really insignificant in the context of national politics you fucking idiot stop drooling on your phone.

Pdragglz
>>144903349

Also this is the least offensive podcast they are literally spoon feeding you their opinions bc fans of this pod are fucking babies AND YOU STILL GET OFFENDED. Dear qaa please never listen to your fans your pod would be better if you ignore all the comments stop trying to be nice to these idiots

Dassaasino

Cool I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought this episode was complete shit

Pdragglz

Also Josh is awesome why are so many people complaining about Josh y’all are so fucking lame it’s honestly hilarious go listen to pod save America you fucking idiots

QuillTheQueer
>>144868340

It's not beating a dead horse if he's still president and supporting genocide. .

Andrew Lenahan
>>144904040

Most of the criticisms of him here are his shitty mic quality and his arguably intentional mispronunciation of a woman of color’s name, so how’s he awesome exactly?

Andrew Lenahan
>>144868340

Okay but “he’s still president and supporting genocide” is not what the episode was about

monkey
>>144904040

My dude, your comment is crying out for a patronising response, but I’m going to resist temptation and just say this: we are all QAA fans and we are all, like you, entitled to our opinions, so calm the fuck down.

Pdragglz

“I have such a good response but I don’t wanna say it cuz I might hurt your feelings” grow up you couldn’t hurt my feelings if you tried HAHAHAHA

Pdragglz
>>144904040

It’s a podcast and I found him to be funny because I have what they call “a sense of humor” maybe you should try it out makes life a lot more enjoyable

Mason Stark

Definitely not a Josh head please don’t bring him back on, he’s tiresome and I disagree with most of his opinions

monkey
>>144910243

Look, I get it, you’re young, you still think cynicism is cool. Hopefully at some point in the future you’ll learn that it’s possible to have healthy scepticism, think critically and communicate your opinions without lashing out at anyone who doesn’t share your world view.

Jordan Y Clementi
>>144772340

No like. What the fuck do these words mean. This reads like word salad. This reads like alcohol poisoning or a stroke. What do your words even mean.

Nate in Atlanta

I generally like the podcast and am certainly not looking to pick a fight; but this flavor of QAA is not my particular favorite. There are plenty of podcasts taking a critical look at the Democratic party and its cheerleading supporters. It's just not what I am looking for out of this particular podcast. Again, big fan, just wanted to offer some constructive feedback.

yona c. riel

@josh, if u look at the bigger picture it was perfect timing cuz it put trump on the defense. He had no idea what was coming and it’s totally flipped the narrative… also Kamala is brat … and the best way to be Trump is get him on defense. He practically destroys himself every time.

Acacia Pottschmidt

What in the actual fuck is up with these comments? Are these new listeners or, like, people who were in middle school when Clinton tanked the Dem's chances in 2016? Bad takes abound in the comments section.

Acacia Pottschmidt
>>144772340

What a huge, steaming dump of a take! Truly impressive stuff. As someone who spent the last few years caregiving for my grandma as she died from Parkinson's Disease Dementia (because we don't have remotely affordable eldercare options in this shithole country), everytime I saw that man absent-mindedly blathering on about something or committing yet another gaffe on live television, it was triggering af. He clearly has some sort of neurodegenerative illness going on, whether it's a form of parkinsonism or not. Ask yourself why so many of us weren't at all surprised to see him shit the bed on national TV during that debate. (Also, my comment is only worded so meanly because Biden is a fucking war criminal 🥰, all love to my grams - RIP - and all the other golden oldies suffering from this horrible disease and their families that have been effectively abandoned by the state. Caregiving for folks with dementia is emotionally-exhausting af, and experiencing dementia seems absolutely hellish. Not normally something I'd wish on my worst enemy, but I make exceptions for perpetrators of genocide.)

Lula Gama
>>144903349

Your comment is a perfect example of the kind of adolescent cynicism this ep embodies. In your attempt to be some kind of leftist edgelord, you only managed to sound stupid and incoherent, with nonsensical arguments. “They’re part of the problem” Im not even American, you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.

Lula Gama
>>144882673

Don’t really get what this is supposed to mean. I am not terribly fond of the Democrats, as someone from the global south is basically obliged to not be. The thing is, this isn’t the usual tone of the show. It just isn’t. If I wanted to listen to a bunch of nihilistic edgelords babbling I would listen to chapo. I do think the guest compromised the ep, hes x-pilled nonsense made the others try to keep up.

ProfKFH

I REALLY like this podcast, but you guys are losing me with the “Dems worship Biden” angle. I can get behind that people overlooked seriously concerning aspects of the debate performance, but nothing you presented convinced me it was out of some love of Dear Leader

Erin Berg
>>144874518

I don’t understand why everyone hates on Allison Gill/Mueller She Wrote so much. I’ve been following her since 2012 when she shared her survivor story in the documentary The Invisible War, which was whistleblowing about sexual assault in the military… which ended up getting huge policy shifts within the military. When she started Mueller She Wrote it was at the very beginning of his investigation and it was in response to the sketchy shit she saw happening inside the VA where she worked at the start of the Trump administration. She ended up getting pushed out of her job at the VA by the Trump admin due to her podcast and she has filed a lawsuit against him for it. Her podcasts political analysis ended up becoming popular and she got a PPE loan out to help fund the beginning of a podcasting network, which is what the loans were to be used for…. On a more personal note, while listening I heard her go through this harrowing personal journey of losing faith in the gov and become pretty radicalized from where she started. I stopped listening to her daily show for some time now, but from what I can tell with the rhetoric in lefty circles about her being a cringe grifter is a snap judgement and perfect example of people who agree about stuff cannibalizing ourselves. I’m totally down to be wrong about her though. I just need evidence.

Acacia Pottschmidt
>>144853923

"I don't understand why some of you guys use lib like it's a slur." Well, you probably don't understand because your politics are dogshit. Hope that helps!

Acacia Pottschmidt
>>144832276

"I thought he was a good POTUS." Wtf happened to their listenership after January 6th? These comments are such a cesspool of out-of-touch libs. Barf.

Erin Berg
>>144903349

Thank you for talking some sense. Whenever a white cis guy “complains” about people being offended I re-realize how we got here.

Erin Berg
>>144772340

Dude. Educate yourself. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joe-biden-stutter/

Acacia Pottschmidt
>>144818443

Why did they deliberately stick out their necks to go to bat for him days before he dropped out then? AOC's little Instagram Live schtick was absolutely laughable. What political calculus was that? She made a total ass of herself trying to extract concessions from a dead candidate and downplaying how much Dem voters wanted him to drop out. She literally tried to frame it as just the sentiment of party donors and elites, meanwhile something like 80% of voters thought he couldn't hack it and record donations poured in after the announcement. Those are bad political instincts that can't be explained away, and I doubt Travis is gonna back you up on your 💩 take about this. I am not a Democrat, but I interact with enough Dem friends to know that Biden Deadenders are the most terminally-online, politically inept faction of the whole party. Ya'll allowed even my shitlib Seattle Boomer friends to have a sane-by-comparison take for once. 😂

Acacia Pottschmidt
>>144818365

Eww. When did all these Biden stans start thinking they were this podcasts' target audience? Fuck off back to Pod Save America or something. Oh wait! Even the Pod Save guys were cognizant enough to read the writing on the wall that Biden was a political dead-end.

Acacia Pottschmidt
>>144798173

Go find some other dipshit mainstream media analysis podcast - I'm sure they'd be more than happy to accommodate your expectations

Erin Berg

Trans person in America here: this episode made me feel like the people that stood in allyship with me actually don’t. Yes, it’s a stupid horse race but show some of the same compassion and empathy for whom this stupid horse race means life or death as you do the QAnon believers on other episodes. (I’m unsure how Liv feels with her being in Canada, etc)

Thomas W.

jesus this commemt section is a regular old shitlib bonanza

Jack J.

Just here to say Joe Biden sucks, and also that eighty minutes of warmed-over political hot takes just isn't what I'm looking for from QAA. I love basically everything you guys do, except for these rambling, unfocused discussions of topics I could hear about from a thousand other shows.

Jess C
>>144904040

So funmy you say that because I muted the entire pod save network in 2018 for being annoying mediocre dudes with boring lazy takes...just like how Josh sounds on this ep 💀

Jess C
>>144903349

People who dislike lazy meh podcasting from an otherwise wonderful pod are not 'offended' or Biden Simps my dude. Maybe it was just a very mediocre ep? Not everything is a dichotomy of Biden simps vs cool smart people with a sense of humour

Jess C
>>144874518

I was a huge MSW fan, patreon for most of its run. Personally I ended my pledge after a few things: 1. The bad experience of listening to AG and Jaleesa's relationship disintegrate on air 2. The way AG rode or died for the idea that the system would save us, Mueller would sort it out etc ectc. I initially loved her guidance but eventually felt that such allegiance to a system which was not working as intended did harm as it placated us - the false sentiment that things would work out, justice would prevail due the Mueller probe. 3. As I said, having someone like Seth Abramson on damaged the credibility of the pod. I think they also had Michael Avenatti? What began as something I felt was well researched and smart began to feel a little more sloppy and uncritical of the more grifty aspects of the left. I remember at the time when they had dubious guests I commented on the patreon comments along with many others and our complaints were disregarded. I don't love as an audience member and patron to be told I am ridiculous for being sceptical of certain guests (topics for this QAA ep too...lol). There's likely more but it feels such ancient history to me now. I wouldn't ever say I think AG is terrible because I have no idea. But as a political podcaster I am not sure she achieved her goal. That doesn't negate anything great she's done; we all have hits and misses in life. Just sharing to say that this was not at all a snap judgement from me at least. Hell, I'm an Australian who pledged to MSW for years and recommended it to friends. My loss of respect over time was gradual and nuanced, and also came from a place of simply finding people I felt cover the political arena with more nuance.

Jess C

Im dying from the comments claiming that people who dont like this ep are Biden fans (what Biden fans? What is the likeliehood that the 3 enthusiastic Biden 2024 campaigners left on Earth are here💀?) or libs. It is interesting criticising this ep and guest and seeing people argue that all criticisms are borne from a deep sense of allegiance to establishment democrats and Biden. Many of us QAA fans are from all around the world and watch USA politics with more of a critical eye and global context than someone like Josh ever would. I didn't like this ep at all and I am also a member of the furthest left main party of my decidedly not American country. So the people saying that someone like me who really disliked this episode disliked it because of my lib love of Biden makes me chuckle. Don't worry my friends, JD Vance would have me imprisoned at Guantanamo for being Antifa ACAB childless hippie woman who wants to delete most cars and expand public transport. It speaks to the profoundly American doom brainrot that people would assume that those of us who dislike Josh as a guest don't have perfectly good reasons... QAA is outstanding when it applies a more analytical eye and gives investigative journalism vibes, or when it leans completely into absurdity, Jakes hilarious stories, Liv's lore. QAA does an astonishing amount of things well actually....we all surely agree on that I guess as Patrons. I cherish the quality, depth and breadth of the pod. To me, criticising the (extremely rare) QAA miss and explaining why in the comments is a testament to how great this podcast is. I am such a big fan of QAA since 2019, you can bet I will be startled when an episode *isnt* awesome. So I beg of you, stop saying all criticism is unwarranted. People care about QAA and have opinions. Why get so bothered? We pay our 38.23 Dogecoins to be on the Patreon and fund this journalistic endeavour, let us be cantankerous! Or at least be honest with yourself. If you liked the ep, awesome. Don't pretend us grumpy goblins are Biden fans.

Leyland

Maybe it’s just that a lot of the comments are controlling and rude. Start your own pod. Maybe you will like that one. Like like maybe like babies

Jess C
>>144818443

All around the world, right and left, factions of parties play politics, flip flop, say cringe stuff, change their mind, and publicly support things due to explicit agreements/quid pro quos behind the scenes. Then the next day they say 'hahahaha nevermind' and take a didferent position. I hated AOCs Biden support, seeing the progressives back him melted my brain. But it's such a non-issue imo. So what? They backed the embarassing guy, they had their reasons, it sucked. That's politics baby. It's painful. As an Australian who watched like, 6 prime ministers give each other 100% unwavering support until the moment they and the rest of their own political parties stabbed their leader in the back and chucked them from their job as prime minister, seeing AOC do that is just such a non-issue to me. The facists are coming to ban gay marriage and birth control, why should I waste braincells on AOC doing a cringe thing?

Jess C
>>144818365

I beg of you, show us a single solitary commenter who has said they love Biden and loved him as the dem nominee 🥴

Brett
>>144931810

“Show some of the same compassion and empathy for whom this stupid horse race means life or death” Kay, I’ll do that when Joe and Kamala stop sending bombs to Israel

Brett
>>144894776

BlueAnon rose virtually concurrent with QAnon, and some would argue it’s been more impactful (at least in the national discourse)

Tivans

so boring - but you’ve already had Jake jump the goldfish on his vespa so not sure what i can add

Lula Gama
>>144931810

So fuck her bc the Dems are evil? That’s your moral high ground?

Erin Berg
>>144931810

Brett- I grew up going to death-ins against the first Iraq war with friends parents that are still on the FBI watch list for their radical activism in the 60s and 70s. My grandfather was blackballed by the feds during Project Abolition during the Red Scare for speaking as a communist leader in front of the Unamerican Activities Committee (https://youtu.be/0qBASlcD5zQ?si=xXf-s6HfzzXTDywx) so don’t come at me with your hyperbolic, short sided bullshit bc my anti-military activism is intergenerational. Look - it’s easy to be angry at the imperialist American state and think you’re some activist hero. It’s harder to have empathy and compassion for your neighbors and community members being harmed more by the imperialist state than you are and decide to work actively towards their personal liberation bc all in all its working towards global liberation. Go volunteer at an LGBTQ suicide hotline and try and say that shit again. Go help community whose lives hang in the balance of elections instead of doing something useless like being mad at something you are reading on a screen.

Erin Berg
>>144874518

I super respect what you are saying and I appreciate your thoughtful response. I’ve never given any money to MSW bc I’d rather support niche, underground weirdos (said lovingly) like these folks. I clearly don’t know enough about Seth Abramson. He was also on another podcast I trust called Gaslit Nation with Sarah Kendzior. Can you link me to an article or something about him? The enshitification of the internet has me trying not to rely on search engines. The gov structure won’t save us but it’s at least a tool to try and not burn up from climate change *shrug*

Erin Berg
>>144931810

It’s like they don’t know that America was founded on genocide and that their sophomoric disengagement is why we’ve been in this situation for hundreds of years. IMO if everyone who thought like him organized their anger into getting reparations and true native sovereignty to heal some of the initial wounding at Americas founding our democracy would stop feeling so much like a farce to their crowd. But shitposters gotta waste everyone’s time and energy.

James Edward Smith
>>144882673

Realists who don't have to sing themselves to sleep with detached from reality pleasantries aren't nihilists. When you have cancer and it's killing you, and say "I'm not going to win the Olympic medal for the 500 meters tomorrow" isn't "being an edge lord. Sorry that you want to pretend any of current American politics isn't a pathetic joke, but it is. It is demonstrably deranged as described by this pod. Why pretend it's something it isn't? What fruitful purpose does that serve? We all have to grow up and face reality eventually. It's not about the world being some "dark place" or some edgelord bullshit like that. It's about the undeniable decline of the US empire and it's ability to govern itself. No one who writes history about this period will be called "an edgelord" for doing so accurately.

James Edward Smith

"If making a podcast for all these years got you THESE kinds of listeners, of what use was the podcast?"

James Edward Smith

There are people in this comment section complaining about someone not saying "Kamala" correctly. lol WHO THE FUCK CARES. You people belong in a monarchist movement. Peasant mindset.

Jess C
>>144874518

I can try to answer these questions but like you, I prefer to read and pay for weirdos so I am extremely out of the loop these days. As an Aussie I discovered USA politics in 2016, and for the ensuing 3 years of following I was pretty normie in my sources. That's when I subscribed to MSW. I was still learning about the basics of the USA at that point so that felt super esoteric to me (and I guess it is, because I am not American lol) Funny you mention Sarah Kendzior; I was also a huge Gaslit Nation listener in 2018-2020, their patreon was another I was subscribed to. But I drifted from that too, mainly because it wasn't mentally healthy for me to follow anymore. I followed Abramson on twitter in 2018. Again...very very early in my politics era. I hung on to every tweet of his! And boy, did he tweet. Threads and threads of like, 110 tweets 'deep diving' into how it was all about to come crashing down for Trump and Russia gate etc. Eventually I noticed that it felt grifty in that he said SO much, made SO many predictions. They wouldn't come to pass, and he would never self correct, never say he was wrong, never even acknowledge it. Personally I came to the conclusion he was like a weak Q for libs. It all seemed so legit and well researched...I am a person who bought into it SO hard. Until I didn't... I wish I could link you to something but I left political Twitter in 2019 so I don't even remember. I understand this has a 'just trust me bro' vibe, but that's all I can give you. I think Abramson seemed a little too keen on tweeting all day and it felt a little more like a LARP in the end anyways. I will say...deep, deep in the archives of QAA, they did a BlueAnon ep and made fun of Seth Abramson. I've just checked and it's so old it isn't even on spotify anymore (cry) but it is still up I think on patreon and soundcloud: https://m.soundcloud.com/qanonanonymous/unlocked-liberal-qanon-louise-mensch-bill-palmer-seth-abramson I haven't listened in a while but I did listen to this several times as I found it both funny and very uh.....helpful in terms of me spotting the people on the left who may not be the most constructive participants in discourse. I try to be more discerning these days so whilst I still follow politics and law I am more limited in the pods I consume. I particularly try to avoid people who are either just telling me what I want to hear and/or speaking opinions without sources. I am a little surprised Kendzior associated with Abramson actually, but like I say. I'm so far out of the loop. These days I subscribe to Dalia Lithwick's Amicus Plus, I listen to Opening Arguments and then QAA. I left social media political circles because it went too toxic. Regarding government...I do believe strongly in trying to work with what we have to make a better world. But that's sort of my issue with AG and Abramson (in 2018 - I cant say if they still are this way). The implications in their work is that the system as it currently stands is working its magic and all we need to is support it/allow it to do so. In that endorsement of the status quo comes complacency, and it's complacency I have a problem with. I don't think we should cross our fingers and tell ourselves it will be ok. The last 5 years in particular have not gone well so I think having a critical perspective of commentators, political parties, ideology etc is very important. I don't think non-Aussies know this about us, but our country is very 'trust the system, let politicians figure it out, it will be fine etc' because historically, we have been fine. So I started from a very complacent 'the systems work and I endorse them' place and I have.........travelled quite a way as I have drifted more left but also become more educated about U.S. and global matters. Sorry for that text wave. Not sure if it's helpful. I think it's nice to try and reach a shared understanding. I definitely don't feel like the best person to ask....but I have been unwell for the last decade and had no job, so have just spent my time reading and listening to stuff. So unfortunately for me, my brain is full of useless evaluations and lore of random US political commentators 💀

Jess C
>>144954971

I am not sure someone named James Edward Smith could understand how irritating it is to have one's name said wrong all the time but I recommend you trust people on this. It's not a cool thing to do. Just a basic politeness issue particularly if one's job is being recorded whilst talking about said person.

James Edward Smith
>>144954971

I wouldn't want to irritate Kamala Harris, someone who is never going to hear this podcast or read any of these comments and who is generally a democratic party machine ghoul who I don't even particularly care for the politics of. She isn't your friend or even your boss or something, you don't have to suck up to her against random people in comments sections who you don't know and will never meet ever in your life.

Lindsay
>>144874518

Jess & Erin, hi! QAA did an episode on him and others in 2019 called Liberal Qanon, premium episode 17. You can go to the search magnifying glass icon at the top of QAA’s page here and type it in to avoid scrolling. Your time is better spent all up in this comment section, after all!

Daire Boyle
>>144934043

Regularly find myself laughing at the takes in these comments and those of Behind the Bastards. Everyone clutching their pearls over a podcast that will definitely hand the election to mean Mr. Trump (it’s not like the 100 million people who regularly don’t vote in presidential elections have anything to do with it; it must be the leftists’ fault)

The Person You Least Expect

How do the ppl on QAA podcast NOT know what the MAGA/GOP phrase "Big Mike" refers to?? Jones was not talking about Whitmer. He's referring to Michelle Obama. Thats been around for years. They call Michelle Obama "Big Mike" because the 'in joke' is that she's a man. And not even a trans-gender man, but an actual man. I guess because she is in shape and muscular? I wont try to understand the MAGA mind. Albeit, of course, the real reason they do this is because they cannot currently use the epithets that a conservative could traditionally have used for an African-American. MAGA is fixated on Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama as the only next possible contenders for power and they wont let facts get in the way.

Jess C
>>144954971

You got me, I spend 100% of my time online white knighting for Kamala Harris 😭 /s Like Kamala I have a weird name people say wrong. I think it's unprofessional to publicly mangle a name. I'd prefer people to criticise Kamela for legitimate reasons. I'm not sucking up, I'm just expressing an opinion which is apparently quite widely shared among listeners who commented on this ep lol. No reason to do a creative writing exercise speculating on the intentions and rationale of people who dont like names being mangled.

Daire Boyle

While I’m not the biggest fan of Josh (electoralism/palace intrigue bores the shite out of me) I cannot understand the response to this episode. People listening: know that while, yes, the democrats are undoubtedly better than republicans, they are still supporters of western hegemony and American imperialism. It’s not sophomoric/edgelord adolescent humour (apart from some of the comments here, sure) to point that out. Kamala is a very capable woman with an excellent CV. She’ll do a great job as President. Unfortunately that means she’ll continue to do nothing material to oppose Israeli massacres while green lighting pro-business policies that put corporations first, not people. I’m sure she’ll make some sops to the working class, but nothing substantial. Liberals/democratic party supporters should consider that this is valid criticism, and it’s not all “the left hates outspoken brown women”. Plus, this doesn’t even cover her record as AG of California and the effect that had on minorities locked up for nonviolent drug crimes. Democrats and Republicans are different in some ways, but on a lot of very meaningful issues (American foreign policy in particular) they are very similar. Not everyone is a Russian chaos agent, democrats are capable of falling for conspiracy theories too.

Robert Williams
>>144954971

"WHO THE FUCK CARES." Other people with the name Kamala who pronounce it the same way? Those with family members/friends/colleagues with the name Kamala who pronounce it the same way? People in the South East Asian diaspora who have heard their names mangled through indifference and malice? People who want to make sure they are getting things right? Those who respect how people choose to identify themselves? Those who want to foster a welcoming atmosphere for allies with non-White coded names? It's not "sucking up" and it's not about whether Kamala Harris hears you say it. What matters is that others CAN hear you say it and make a note of how you respond to being pulled up on it. Telling someone to fuck off because you don't care about it is... weird and rude at the very least.

Brett
>>144931810

lol I’m the real activist because I’m arguing with someone on Patreon

Lindymizer

As a non-US lefty, it is honestly bizarre to see the reaction of US left to Kamala. To suggest that organizing/protesting imperialism is an ALTERNATIVE to voting against a Trump presidency is wild. Do you know what will happen to your trans/queer/POC friends?

Brett
>>144965955

Probably not the same thing happening to our Palestinian friends…

Erin Berg
>>144874518

Hi Jess and Lindsay. Thanks again for your responses and it’s nice to hear from people down the same podcasting rabbit holes as I am. I get into a comments conversation once or twice a year then wake up with what feels like a cell phone hangover the next day…. Hahahaha. Cheers to you both.

Interested Third Party

I didn't hate this episode - the stuff about what's cooking in BlueAnon these days was eye-opening, and I basically agree with Josh's assessment of Biden's hubris - but can understand why some did. This style of political commentary isn't for everyone. People saying they SHOULDN'T do such episodes, that's a weird position to me. Actual political events, the twisted things our politicians do and the dissonance their supporters feel explaining them is the very font of conspiracy theories, of course it's worth discussing them. QAA's a podcast that tries to do a lot of things with a large and varied cast, and that's why it's managed to stay fresh for so many years. Some of those things inevitably aren't for everyone. I've listened to plenty and thought "Ah this one's not for me," or "These guys are getting on my nerves a bit", and switched off. I'm not in the comments saying they SHOULDN'T have done the episode at all, because clearly some people do vibe with it! I'll just wait until later in the week. Given the overall high standard they've managed to maintain, doing otherwise strikes me as a bit entitled.

Andrew Lenahan
>>144934043

I don’t think anyone is claiming this episode is going to hand the election to Trump dude, where are you getting that from

Andrew Lenahan
>>144853923

Lmao yep that sums up the response from the people arguing with me. “You’re dumb and I’m not going to explain why and just call you names”

Andrew Lenahan
>>144818365

“Hey this episode wasn’t great” doesn’t mean I’m a fucking “Biden stan” dude. I literally wanted him to drop out the entire time. I’ve also never listened to “Pod Save America”, whatever that is

Andrew Lenahan
>>144830263

You’re right Acacia, next time I will silently listen to an episode of a podcast I love and not give any criticism! No criticizing dear leader!

Andrew Lenahan
>>144965955

What’s happening to Palestine is awful. I just don’t understand why some people on the left pretend Palestine are the only oppressed people worth fighting for

Andrew Lenahan
>>144954971

Who cares? I actually do care if a so called journalist takes the time to pronounce the name of a woman who may very well be our next president. It’s sloppy to be so flippant about it

Andrew Lenahan
>>144936679

Yeah. I’ve been listening to this pod since 2021 (still working through the premium back catalog) and this is the first episode that I actively disliked

Jess C
>>144853923

It's certainly intruiging to see the snarky name callers also be furious that everyone is expressing their opinions in the exact place it is appropriate to express opinions....lol. But if you ask them to clarify where all of these extreme Biden supporters are in the comments or defend their flimsy arguments they don't provide rationale. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Brett
>>144965955

I don’t know why people pretending to be on the left value of the lives of Palestinians less than the comforts of Americans

Andrew Lenahan
>>144974925

Why do some of you act like it’s a bad thing to criticize a podcast you otherwise enjoy for a rare episode you did not enjoy?

Liam Harte

Amidst the Armageddon of these comments, I just want to say that Liv’s “Big Newsletter” quip has made me laugh aloud each and every time I’ve thought of it over the past two days.

Andrew Lenahan
>>144974925

Please show me where people are mad that Biden got badmouthed lol. Most of the comments I’ve seen are criticizing the guest or lack of sourcing for the episode

Jess C
>>144974925

1. The guest is mumbly, rambly, keeps saying "like" so many times in each sentence that you can barely grasp the sentiment 2. Usually episodes have clearly defined purpose and narrative with sources to back it up. This one felt like a gelatinous blob of tweets. The worst timeline.... 3. Mumbly lukewarm and basic takes are extremely irritating because they're in stark contrast to the usual QAA quality 4. Mispronouncing of Kamala feels ick and unprofessional 5. In 2024 we have hordes of boring basic politics podcasts where people say 'trump bad, Biden bad, all old'. Lots of people keep saying 'iF yoU donT like it gO listen to Pod save ameriCa' but to me, this episode reminded me of exactly what sucks about pod save america. Political white noise devoid of anything notable 6. This particular guest sounds just like the weird dude you've invited to squad up in a game queue. He joins the vc and thinks he is witty, irreverent and smart but actually he is annoying and boring. Personally this is what bothered me the most. If I wanted to listen to someone stumble their way through basic takes as if they're worth speaking aloud, I would open Steam and play a FPS with mics on People are not mad because this was critical of Biden, it's absolutely deranged to keep saying it when the critical comments are communicating exactly what they think which is NOT that 💀 Let's not forget the whole reason Biden is gone is because he was resoundingly unpopular.

Ryan Henson
>>144974925

I'm just going to delete this comment because I am not arguing with people about about a throwaway podcast comment on Patreon all day. It's fine. None of you are mad because of the Biden and Harris criticism, even though I see several comments saying exactly that. lol Have a good day! Jesus Christ

Shelby

Good episode as always. Thank you all for the work you put into this podcast. Hoping that future episodes you will refer to her as "Harris" or learn how to pronounce her first name correctly. I'm not a fan of her politics, but it comes off as racist and disrespectful to continue to pronounce her name wrong even though she's been in the public eye for at least a decade.

PBJellie

I usually love Liv episodes, but I'm not a fan of the guest you brought on.

Ryan Henson

The guest, Josh, is awesome. Chapo has him on all the time. His Substack is killer, and he is an absolute brilliant election analyst who fucking nailed 2022... but let's hate on him because his audio sounds different and he says "like" in spoken sentences as a subconscious filler while he thinks off the cuff... So stupid. That's why I said I thought the hate was really about the criticism of Biden and Kamala (oh no! they mispronounced her name!), but maybe I was wrong. There are def people in these comments literally proving my theory, but whatever. Fine... You all win. I'll just take a break and go listen to Chapo for a while, at least that is a Podcast where I know the other listeners aren't fucking sensitive lib weirdos.

Andrew Lenahan

Ryan Henson is Josh’s burner I think

Ryan Henson
>>144882673

Ahhh yes, when being realistic and seeing things for how they really are make you a nihilistic edge lord. If you have been anything but miserable as the US helps blow babies in Palestine to oblivion while an ego-driven, dementia-ridden candidate refuses to step down until the election is 100 days away, you are just fucking lying to yourself.

James Edward Smith
>>144954971

Tell it to the 200,000 dead in Gaza that Kamala Harris fully supports the murder of. Ask them or their living family members how much they care about it.

James Edward Smith
>>144965955

Please define what "cynical" means and how the people you're using it to describe are "cynical".

DrJRad

This is what National Baby Withdrawal Syndrome looks like.

Brett

All the same people on here saying how much they disliked this week’s guest and how there’s too much conjecture/not enough sourcing are also the same people who love Jake stories and Q voiceovers. The only difference is (seems to me as a layman and long-time listener) that these folks are just complaining that the joke of this week’s episode is instead their guy/team/side/party instead of the one they hate. Really seems to hurt people’s feelings when you point out their guy is also a genocidal geriatric freak who only cares about his legacy and staying in power.

Steven Kirk

Josh really missed with his conspiracy take that Obama was trying to put his own shill on the ticket considering Obama endorsed Harris a few days later.

Skullbrain

I'm with trueanon re: you can pronounce names any way you want, folks. Whatever it looks like it sounds like to you, just let 'er rip

Jess C
>>145011607

It's not that. People have explained many times. Hope this helps 🙏

Brett
>>145011607

It helped me about as much as Biden’s pier helped Gaza

Jess C
>>145011607

Good because I was subtly indicating you ought to read the other comments and practice reading comprehension and critical thinking if you'd like to understand. I was not trying to be helpful. Hope that helps 🙏

Jack Gude

Do you think Joe ever said the n-word in front of Obama? I feel like he absolutely did and it was on purpose

Mantis Man

An extended "clip", huh Jake?

Jack Gude
>>145055630

I like how this ettinger guy is obviously just Felix slightly altering his voice. It’s a good bit.

Brad Plumb
>>145055630

Well, considering he's been on Chapo multiple times, Felix must have been really busy doing the dual role. I'd get confused which character I was talking as.

AJ
>>144931810

That ain’t it, Brett. They’re a real activist because of what they’ve actually done, and activists are also allowed to post on Patreon. And as someone who does volunteer for an LGBT youth suicide hotline, their point is solid. If you actually are concerned about Palestine and it’s not a short-lived emotion, then help to elect Harris and push her to continue demanding for a ceasefire and to deny anymore weapons to Israel. You have to constantly push whoever is in power.

AJ

I respect those who didn’t like the episode, but I thought it was good. Felt like they were talking about several dem friends I know. I’m still voting for Harris and canvassing for her in swing states.

CharlieInsomnia
>>144818365

the lesson here is; don't piss off militant cheerleaders of a pod they themselves don't actually work or guest host on, with your own free thinking critiques for a subpar episode. that's not how individualism works.

Mike Parker

the people who can't stomach criticism of the Democratic Party machine are incredibly annoying

Jess C
>>144882673

Being realistic and sceptical of USA politicians is surely common sense at this point. This QAA episode though offered pretty much nothing new or constructive. I think it's important to acknowledge how bad things are, how frustrating it is Biden didn't withdraw sooner, etc etc. But ideally you do so, one should speak clearly, cite sources and not give an impression of judgement and indifference. Sentiment wise I don't know that I entirely disagree with this episode but I feel it was delivered very poorly. Mainly due to Josh's rambling speech, gratuitious use of the word "like", and the vague lack of professionalism or organisation to Josh's narrative/reporting. It just sounded like some random guy ranting on gamer vc, or at the bus stop, or a cashier at a book store who hasn't taken the hint that I do NOT want their election analysis just because I bought a USA politics book. Lots of us are devastated about this election cycle. I was personally irate that Biden ran again at all. But despite that, this ep just felt redundant and poorly executed. I hope they do a BlueAnon/baking on the left update again soon withour Josh because I think there's lots worth exploring there.

ev
>>145016637

brace has changed the way I pronounce so many words. especially epoch

Acacia Pottschmidt
>>144830263

Andrew, whine wherever the fuck you want to, dude. I will happily continue to call you a "whiner" in response.

Acacia Pottschmidt
>>144818365

Please. You idiots are sharing your stinking opinions all over in the comments. People with better ones are telling you that you suck. Get over it. That's how the comments section works, bud.

Pete Ziegel

Can y’all pronounce Kamala’s name correctly on the pod? Not a big deal but it’s a Trump thing now so it’s a bit cringe

Delmer Buddy Totten

Hey y’all my friend Carrie Schreck has been documenting all the maga gop insanity and I think you should have her on the show. It would be awesome! https://www.instagram.com/rehabforcandy?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Andrew Lenahan
>>145105746

Where was the “criticism of the Democratic Party machine” in this episode. It was just unsourced claims and yelling about Biden

KEGGY

I'm admittedly someone who uses 'like' in place of 'um' too much, but even I couldn't handle the amount of times it was said on this episode. It has to be well over a thousand times.

Stephen Shaw

Trumps ear healed pretty fast. Adrenochrome?

Jess C
>>145105746

I mean yeah Biden is uhhh, not the most popular. I bet we've all yelled about him in our own time. I know I have, lol. The thing is we are all paying for the QAA patreon, for (in the words of QAA) 'independent journalism'. There's nothing journalistic, interesting, or well differentiated about this ep. To me this sounded like Josh mumble serving the most microwaved frozen tv dinner takes. I could read those unsourced takes for free on reddit. He delivered them whilst sounding like he was trapped in a bathroom cabinet. The 'likes'interspersed throughout sentences were particularly grating and added to the general amateur hour impression. Rather than any one of those issues ruining it for me, the ep was just subpar in every imaginable way. Not bad enough to get genuinely mad about but....utterly vexing, lol. Baffling.

thicchatlogan
>>144991641

correct on most counts but chapo's patreon comments are absolutely more annoying than the ones here lol, it's mostly either the cringe "yum yum time for my slop!!" people and 30 year old bernie dead enders that are still upset that the chapo sub got banned edit: ok these ones are probably just as annoying, love to be scolded about not pronouncing an aspiring genocide collaborator's name right

thicchatlogan
>>144965955

Lindymizer, so is there anything the democrats could do to lose your vote as long as there exists a potentially worse outcome? I'm not voting for kamala- even though I think trump would be worse - because if we aren't willing to withhold votes for candidates with inhumane policy goals then dems have no reason to adopt better policy, seems like basic common sense. that and I live in a solid blue state and have no desire to juice the numbers for a genocide collaborator.

Lindymizer
>>144965955

Cynical in this context: performative "too online" edgelord jokes about everything, opposite to the humorous but empathic tone thus podcast is known for

Lindymizer
>>144965955

I don't live under a two party system so I'm not faced with that shitty non-choice. But in this specific case: no, I would 100% vote Dem, purely on a lesser evil basis

J M

As a center-left person, I appreciated this episode because some people went crazy about the calls for Biden to step down. I’m a bit concerned about the guys slowly starting to sound a bit judgy of people that support Democrats. I’ve been there and used to listen to Chapo. I’ve become a Democrat because one is clearly worse than the other and one of them is going to be in charge regardless. I don’t believe in a protest vote when issues I care about like abortion, LGBTQ rights, and other issues are on the line.

Steven Kirk
>>145013420

Not really. Dude is clearly using New York Post quality sources and acting like he’s sharing some deep insight.

Jason!

Is there a reason this guest refused to pronounce "Kamala" correctly, and why you didn't correct him? He's a political commentator that somehow never heard the correct pronunciation? Comes across as the same racist trick the far right likes to pull when it comes to any politician of color

dsjordan

Strange QAA is so supportive of media that gave us Whitewater, WMD's, Her Emails, critical race theory, etc. etc. etc.

Andrew Lenahan
>>145105746

skullbrain if I wanted to listen to people yell about Biden I’d read my Twitter feed

dsjordan
>>144800160

Biden is the best President of our lifetime. If somebody disagrees they should name a better one.

bigphoton
>>144800160

Agreed. He's not perfect, but he did a darn good job in tough circumstances, both personal and professional.

Andrew Rassling
>>144986432

Disrespecting someone who refuses to take a hard stance against a genocide with state sanctioned rape camps is good.

Orchidspork

Hillbilly eulogy

purr
>>144965955

As a marginalized person in the US who is being directly targeted for government & vigilante violence, I wish that everyone would stop using me/us as a talking point for their own political agenda—especially people who don't live in the US or who otherwise don't themselves face the oppressions some of us do. It's just as disingenuous as when supporters of the israeli occupation use the oppression of queer palestinians as justification for their violence. Please let us speak for ourselves. Those of us queer/trans friends who stand in solidarity with the people of gaza are already having to deal with making a lot of unbearable and impossible decisions, without y'all reducing us to campaigning slogans

purr
>>144782698

"the liberal turn" is not the only alternative to marxist leninism. anarchists and many other leftists have always been against the authoritarianism of the bolsheviks. it was kind of the foundation for the civil wars within the leftists in russia. not sure what history books you've been reading that you're so proud of if you haven't heard these criticisms before, emma goldman was writing about it in real time during the post revolution period.

i guess

Please have Josh on every episode to annoy the normies

RetroBot

I love QAA and have been a supporter for so many years now. If I had a punch card I would have SO MANY QAA coffees. But I gotta add my voice to the others who kind of hated this episode. I realize it's probably a "me" thing, but all the negativity around the Dems was too much. I know they suck, I'm well aware of it in down to my bones. But as someone who checks a bunch of boxes that Trump and Project 2025 are targeting, the shift in momentum and candidates has me feeling hopeful for the first time in years. This episode made me feel pretty shitty, painting anyone who wants a respite from the fear and misery to be blue-anon libs who are still going to lose lol suckers. I know, it's not a podcast's job to spoon feed me my good vibes. But I do expect after hundreds of episodes that I've got a known quantity to look forward to. This episode was downright mean and just no fun whatsoever. Maybe I've become too much of a normie in my old age, but this one sucked.

Jordan Rose

I really appreciate this episode. Josh is great! And more unfounded Jake killed a celebrity rumors please

Sarah S
>>145449079

I’m not a Kamala fan girl but the intentional mispronunciation is rude and fucking annoying. I usually like Josh but this was just lame.

Sarah S
>>145139107

Are you just being annoyingly literal and meaning everyone on the pod as in the hosts so excluding the guest who is for some stupid reason mispronouncing her name?

Sarah S
>>144991641

Nobody cares about how cool you think you are because you love Chapo.

Ryan Henson
>>144991641

I didn't say I was cool... lol. I just said the criticism of Josh has nothing to do with his audio or his nervous speaking ticks. It has to do with people that refuse to hear uncomfortable truths

Ryan Henson

This comment section is absolutely ridiculous...

Sarah S
>>144818365

It’s weird how many really cool edgy 14 year old kids are in the comments these days.

Skullbrain
>>145139107

No he pronounced her name correctly too. You can pronounce names any way you want

Sarah S
>>145345845

I don’t get how the people who aren’t voting think that’s going to benefit them. They are fans of more maga judges? They think somehow trump winning will usher in a socialist revolution? It’s like they don’t understand the American public at all. Trump people aren’t going to join as comrades. Even in the late 19th and early 20th century when the American people were way way more progressive and socialist minded we couldn’t pull it off so it definitely isn’t going to happen in the next four years.

thicchatlogan
>>144965955

so to answer my question, no, there's nothing democrats could do that would make you not vote for them, up to and including collaborating in an ongoing genocide

James Edward Smith
>>145345845

No one on the left wants Trump to win, but that doesn't mean that we have to rabidly, joyously support the democratic party. It is a horrible party that allowed the republican majority in the supreme court by not getting RGB to retire under Obama, and not pushing Garland through, and that is now actively supporting a genocide of over 100k people in Gaza. Why can't we say they suck? They suck! It's not cynical or crazy to refuse to get excited about having no better option than the democrats to stop the GOP insanity. Biden and Kamala now 100% support Trump's immigration policy and are making fun of republicans for not voting for it just because a Democrat is in the whitehouse! No one want's Trump in. Yes, he is marginally worse than the dems. But we want something better, we want a bright future for the first time in our lifetimes instead of more of this fucking political ratchet. Stop getting mad at US for just telling it like it is instead of at the politicians for making it that way.

C’mon
>>144772340

I found that out… I had no idea it was a neurodevelopment disorder until Biden. Learn something new every day 🙂