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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - 3x11 "Bouncing Back" Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2023-11-03 06:15:50
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2024-07
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Lyla

This is a good episode! Reminds me a bit of the season 2 episode “Aftershocks” after that season’s mid season finale - they’re really good at dealing with the aftermath in this show, and as you said, settling us back into the relative ‘normality’ of things after some big events, such as going to Maveth, whilst still keeping the show moving forward and interesting to follow. Love the introduction of Elena here - it’s a great one. I love her story. And it’s nice / interesting for this show to portray the police as a corrupt institution, at least in this instance, as it’s often so government/police focused and centred, and so can tend to be pretty uncritical of institutions and organisations in general. The use of the mind machine (I don’t remember it’s exact name!) on VonStrucker here however leaves me feeling uncomfortable, and is definitely an example of the show having a very complicated array of morals and ideologies. When the machine was introduced, it was being used by Hydra, and seemed to nearly kill Coulson, or at least cause him great both physical and mental harm, as he confirms in this episode. The use of the machine then seemed to be shown as unequivocally wrong and part of why Hydra and those associated, are so misguided and wrong. But then the Shield team use it here, when it suits their needs. And it’s even worse too. Because VonStrucker is extremely injured and unstable, so it’s at an even greater risk to him and his health. And of course they also have absolutely no consent to be doing this. I can’t help but find this particular action pretty reprehensible, especially due to casual way they agree to, and then carry out, the operation. *Obviously* we’re not meant to agree with them and their actions all the time - humans are complex, and so are organisations, and this show is aware of that. But while it’s briefly acknowledged that this may be somewhat immoral, it often seems to me that the show presents the message of sometimes doing terrible things is an absolute *necessity* when fighting a greater evil, or even that it’s not bad when shield does it, because they have good intentions.. This is of course part of what makes Aos such a fascinating and multilayered show - it has a real mixture of philosophies, messages and moralities woven in there for you to question and discuss, and the nature of what the Shield agents do, for survival, or for the greater good, is a real through-line of the show, from both an audience and writer’s perspective I think. Anyway great reaction, look forward to the next one :)

Laurel
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Totally agree with all of this! Re: the brain machine, even though he ended up giving in, I’m glad they gave us Lincoln’s perspective. As a medical doctor he’d have sworn to the oath of doing no harm, yet here he was being told to ignore and sign off on a (vegetative!) patient being effectively tortured for information. Plus the part that finally got him to concede was the idea that by the targeted electroshock thing, he’d be helping rather than continuing to hurt. I liked that Lincoln was shown to have a huge problem with it. Coulson’s acknowledgement of it being fucked up was good, too. At the very least, it indicated clearly that the writers were aware of what that plot point meant. Albeit, of course, the ramifications were quickly deemed acceptable lol. But, as you said, it also shows that the team has flaws — some big ones — and sometimes engage in things under the thought that the ends justify the means.

Laurel

Elena is such a fun character! One of the things I like best about the inclusion of her powers are their limitations. Oftentimes people with superspeed have very little in the way of that, but here, they gave the stipulations that she bounces back to the same spot and can only go a certain distance. It makes for some mandatory creativeness on the writers’ part going forward and strategic creativeness for Elena. Similar concept as with Daisy, actually, who is very strong but can’t use her powers indiscriminately because she risks shattering her bones. It’s also an inclusion of another character of color on the show, which is great, not to mention casting an actress who’s a native Spanish speaker rather than someone who’s just reading lines. This show has good diversity overall, even in just the main cast.